Remote ID: Training from FAA
#1

Thread Starter

FAA has a pretty good program of training seminars etc. Here's an upcoming one on Remote ID:
Activities, Courses, Seminars & Webinars - Event Details and Registration - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov
It's astonishing to me how many people don't bother to go to original source. Here's an opportunity to be educated on it by the regulator themselves.
Activities, Courses, Seminars & Webinars - Event Details and Registration - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov
It's astonishing to me how many people don't bother to go to original source. Here's an opportunity to be educated on it by the regulator themselves.
#4
Senior Member

FAA has a pretty good program of training seminars etc. Here's an upcoming one on Remote ID:
Activities, Courses, Seminars & Webinars - Event Details and Registration - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov
It's astonishing to me how many people don't bother to go to original source. Here's an opportunity to be educated on it by the regulator themselves.
Activities, Courses, Seminars & Webinars - Event Details and Registration - FAA - FAASTeam - FAASafety.gov
It's astonishing to me how many people don't bother to go to original source. Here's an opportunity to be educated on it by the regulator themselves.
#6

My Feedback: (15)

now, from the example provided over here and in that other AMA stuff forum at the other site, that just answering the simple questions once is never enough to satisfy the ignorant. they will keep bringing "what ifs", and "i only", and whatever other so called reason to have it not apply to them for at least an hour.
all have the same answer, by the way.
you still gotta comply.
all have the same answer, by the way.
you still gotta comply.
#7

Thread Starter

now, from the example provided over here and in that other AMA stuff forum at the other site, that just answering the simple questions once is never enough to satisfy the ignorant. they will keep bringing "what ifs", and "i only", and whatever other so called reason to have it not apply to them for at least an hour.
all have the same answer, by the way.
you still gotta comply.
all have the same answer, by the way.
you still gotta comply.
And first person to chime in with a statement undermining value - sight unseen since event hasn’t happed - was AMA EC member.
#8

My Feedback: (11)

I wasn't undermining anything, if you notice I said I both attend them and learn somethng.
I also stated, truthfully (emphasis added) that those webinars largely pertain to 107 operations and are geared towards those operators.
I can't even agree with you without you taking a shot.
I also stated, truthfully (emphasis added) that those webinars largely pertain to 107 operations and are geared towards those operators.
I can't even agree with you without you taking a shot.
#9

Thread Starter

I wasn't undermining anything, if you notice I said I both attend them and learn somethng.
I also stated, truthfully (emphasis added) that those webinars largely pertain to 107 operations and are geared towards those operators.
I can't even agree with you without you taking a shot.
I also stated, truthfully (emphasis added) that those webinars largely pertain to 107 operations and are geared towards those operators.
I can't even agree with you without you taking a shot.
nope. Had to add the mostly 107. Got news for you, we’re ALL flying under 107. Recreational is exempt only from a small portion.
#10
Senior Member

Something else is going on that might be a factor in the RID date being pushed so far back. Several people have put out instructions on how to spoof Remote ID using a cheap ESP microcontroller and Arduino IDE, eg.:https://github.com/jjshoots/RemoteIDSpoofer
These can create multiple RID signals anywhere and it's been making the rounds on the FPV outlaw influencers on YouTube and their slacker followers, with a lot of giddy comments about how great it's going to be to turn out a flood of fake signals and bring the system down.
It's against the law but only a general FCC violation with a maximum penalty of a $4,000 fine, I believe. The FAA may be working getting the law tightened and, more importantly, on the technical aspects to detect and catch people doing it and ways to stop it.
These can create multiple RID signals anywhere and it's been making the rounds on the FPV outlaw influencers on YouTube and their slacker followers, with a lot of giddy comments about how great it's going to be to turn out a flood of fake signals and bring the system down.
It's against the law but only a general FCC violation with a maximum penalty of a $4,000 fine, I believe. The FAA may be working getting the law tightened and, more importantly, on the technical aspects to detect and catch people doing it and ways to stop it.
#11
Senior Member

video telling his followers that Remote ID was still in effect and insurers would be denying claims for Part 107 operators and others not in compliance.
People began refuting that after contacting insurers including AMA (the biggest?). This was from the Flight Test forum,
"Thank you for your inquiry in regards to your insurance benefits. AMA membership benefits are not contingent upon remote ID or flying at a FRIA."
#12
Senior Member

xjet, the most uninformed talking head in RC, seized on "unable to comply" (AMA's it's not in effect it's still in effect brain twister). Further down,
"Drone pilots can meet this deadline by ..."
Whatever the reason (disabling Remote ID on a drone and using it in a crime or other unlawful use) "unable to comply" is self-reporting and otherwise unenforceable.
"Drone pilots can meet this deadline by ..."
Whatever the reason (disabling Remote ID on a drone and using it in a crime or other unlawful use) "unable to comply" is self-reporting and otherwise unenforceable.
#13

My Feedback: (11)

Yea I heard about his video, I refuse to sacrifice the brain cells required to watch them but I've been getting my email and phone blown up about it.
We (the AMA) want and encourage all our members to comply with existing laws.
But the fact is this. If you get drunk and wreck your car while running a light and hurt someone, what's your car insurance going to do? They won't get you a lawyer, bail you out of jail and will likely drop your policy. But they will pay the claim.
So as usual, Bruce is outright making false statements. But he's getting his clicks and income from youtube.
We (the AMA) want and encourage all our members to comply with existing laws.
But the fact is this. If you get drunk and wreck your car while running a light and hurt someone, what's your car insurance going to do? They won't get you a lawyer, bail you out of jail and will likely drop your policy. But they will pay the claim.
So as usual, Bruce is outright making false statements. But he's getting his clicks and income from youtube.
#14
Senior Member

Well, AMA contributed to the situation with their tortured interpretation of the postponement, wouldn't you say?
FAA's David Boulter mentioned the difficulty of pushing out the date and that may be why they had to word it this way, a legal fiction.
It does has a nice ring to it as a stick to get people in line.
FAA's David Boulter mentioned the difficulty of pushing out the date and that may be why they had to word it this way, a legal fiction.
It does has a nice ring to it as a stick to get people in line.
#15
Senior Member

Blame the FAA

FAADroneZone
@FAADroneZone
BREAKING NEWS: The Remote Identification requirement for drones has been extended to March 16, 2024. --- Crystal clear.
It then goes on to say the FAA "expects" people to comply. They can expect all they want. Maybe if they brought in those 80,000 extra IRS agents.
1) Victor had a yard sale, he now has an extra $100. He has to comply.
2) Robert had some bad luck, his car broke down. He can put it off.
The FAA is going to have to crack down at some point but they're off to a bad start.
FAADroneZone
@FAADroneZone
BREAKING NEWS: The Remote Identification requirement for drones has been extended to March 16, 2024. --- Crystal clear.
It then goes on to say the FAA "expects" people to comply. They can expect all they want. Maybe if they brought in those 80,000 extra IRS agents.
1) Victor had a yard sale, he now has an extra $100. He has to comply.
2) Robert had some bad luck, his car broke down. He can put it off.
The FAA is going to have to crack down at some point but they're off to a bad start.
#16
Senior Member

I forgot it's the FAA. I didn't include gender neutral pronouns. I'm starting now to agree with the FPV slackers. This whole thing is a joke.
Ze/they has to comply.
In other news, Flight Test's FT EZ ID is now available at the new low price of $99.99.
Oh and be sure to get the app:
"This app may collect these data types
Personal info, Photos and videos, and Device or other IDs"
"The developer provided this information and may update it over time."
Surely someone had started a thread on the Flight Test forum about FT selling their members' personal information.
I went over to join in the outrage (I'm a free member) and give my 2 cents. Nothing. Not a peep.
Ze/they has to comply.
In other news, Flight Test's FT EZ ID is now available at the new low price of $99.99.
Oh and be sure to get the app:
"This app may collect these data types
Personal info, Photos and videos, and Device or other IDs"
"The developer provided this information and may update it over time."
Surely someone had started a thread on the Flight Test forum about FT selling their members' personal information.
I went over to join in the outrage (I'm a free member) and give my 2 cents. Nothing. Not a peep.
Last edited by ECHO24; 09-15-2023 at 06:05 PM.
#17
Senior Member

"How do I get compliant" will be about which (DJI) drones can be upgraded with a firmware update, models and serial numbers a (DJI) drone manufacturer has issued firmware updates or will,
which (DJI) drones will need a module. Etc., etc.
#18
Senior Member

Yea I heard about his video, I refuse to sacrifice the brain cells required to watch them but I've been getting my email and phone blown up about it.
We (the AMA) want and encourage all our members to comply with existing laws.
But the fact is this. If you get drunk and wreck your car while running a light and hurt someone, what's your car insurance going to do? They won't get you a lawyer, bail you out of jail and will likely drop your policy. But they will pay the claim.
So as usual, Bruce is outright making false statements. But he's getting his clicks and income from youtube.
We (the AMA) want and encourage all our members to comply with existing laws.
But the fact is this. If you get drunk and wreck your car while running a light and hurt someone, what's your car insurance going to do? They won't get you a lawyer, bail you out of jail and will likely drop your policy. But they will pay the claim.
So as usual, Bruce is outright making false statements. But he's getting his clicks and income from youtube.
I found out about the RID postponement when you posted it here. At the time I was also in a back-and-forth with Bruce over his false statements about insurance in that video, and I mentioned the postponement. Not long after he made a video about the FAA announcement. After his usual into he says, "Brrreaking news, this just dropped 3MINUTES AGO", which was obviously impossible at least for him anyway. Just one small insight into this sociopath.
#21
Senior Member

But my biggest problem with Bruce is him telling his young followers to break the law. That's his mantra, ignore the FAA or any and all RC laws and regulations. Adults, fine, but impressionable young people no. It's a message that they can take through life. Screw the man over RC why not everything else.
FPV is at the bottom of all this. FPV did in AMA but Bruce has capitalized on it. I don't have any sympathy for the FPV outlaws but I think Bruce found a weakness and is exploiting it. Most of them are not too bright.
Bruce is complaining his YouTube revenue is down to $1,200 per month. $75 is my goal.
#23
Senior Member

I was going to wait for the franklin briefing on this gov.boring webinar but I think I'll chime in on the unenforceable "unable to comply" - sike (or psych if you prefer), FAA fooled you.
Last edited by ECHO24; 09-19-2023 at 07:47 PM.