Variable Rate Program.
05-13-2006 | 10:39 PM
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From: liberty,
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
I know EasyTiger is just brandishing is own tormenting style of humor. Not sure about Stickbuilder though....
At any rate.. I go back to my original post.
"Maybe $58 for everyone isn't such a bad idea"
At any rate.. I go back to my original post.
"Maybe $58 for everyone isn't such a bad idea"
05-13-2006 | 10:39 PM
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
ORIGINAL: Rat1
Easy, it does not work that way. Like the US, it does not matter how many dollars you have involved, you still only get 1 vote. If money were votes then Bill Gate and Donald Trump would be trying to vote themselves into the presidency.
As far as rich people having more at stake then others. Well that there is a false statement if you change the lost monetary value into a percentage of what the rich persons net worth is. To me a 150.00 dollar loss would be about the same as a 5000 dollar loss to someone that is worth more then myself.
Easy, it does not work that way. Like the US, it does not matter how many dollars you have involved, you still only get 1 vote. If money were votes then Bill Gate and Donald Trump would be trying to vote themselves into the presidency.
As far as rich people having more at stake then others. Well that there is a false statement if you change the lost monetary value into a percentage of what the rich persons net worth is. To me a 150.00 dollar loss would be about the same as a 5000 dollar loss to someone that is worth more then myself.
05-13-2006 | 10:45 PM
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
Nope, conversely you should be paying a much higher persentage then myself. you have a much more dangerous model then I do and your model is more likely to inflict alot more damage with possible fatalities then mine is.
05-13-2006 | 10:50 PM
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
Okay, fine. But again, since Bill Gates(and I) have much more at stake, much more to lose, it's only fair that we get more votes.
For that matter, if I am paying more for AMA, I want more votes there, too. Fair's fair. Sorry.
For that matter, if I am paying more for AMA, I want more votes there, too. Fair's fair. Sorry.
05-13-2006 | 10:51 PM
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
your model is more likely to inflict alot more damage with possible fatalities then mine is.
I'm not taking anyone's side here, just stating possibilities.
05-13-2006 | 10:58 PM
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
Yet another reason why these larger owners of larger models should be paying more.
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05-13-2006 | 11:05 PM
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
Coolbean, first off we would have to find a dry forest in North Dakota. You would be lucky to find a small group of trees muchless a forest.
As for the Lipo, well many lipos have been reported to be fully drained in lost aircraft with no fire hazzard being reported other then the pack was not able to be charged. Many models are lost each year with Lipos in them and none yet have started any type of fire. Now if you are pulling some High amps from them while flying hard and fast, they have been known to puff a little but not actually burst. Most Lipo fires that I have seen reported are those that were started or caused by improper charging.
As for the Lipo, well many lipos have been reported to be fully drained in lost aircraft with no fire hazzard being reported other then the pack was not able to be charged. Many models are lost each year with Lipos in them and none yet have started any type of fire. Now if you are pulling some High amps from them while flying hard and fast, they have been known to puff a little but not actually burst. Most Lipo fires that I have seen reported are those that were started or caused by improper charging.
05-13-2006 | 11:09 PM
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
Actually I have seen at least a couple reports of lipos being damaged enough in a crash to generate a short between cells and causing a fire.
05-13-2006 | 11:38 PM
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
Stickbuilder: Boy you are really pulling at straws now. I am not replying to your way of thinking, for the fun of it. I can well aford what I want. Its the ohers I think about that should not have to pay as mutch for AMA insurance as the guys that fly $5000 and up aircraft. Again...its others I am going to bat for. Who are you going to bat for? You expect RC fans to pay $1000 for AMA...
05-13-2006 | 11:57 PM
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
ORIGINAL: EASYTIGER
Listen...if you don't have some serious bucks, you should not be in this hobby. My club runs a TRW credit report on ALL prospective members, first thing. If you are not taking in AT LEAST $100k after taxes, you don't even get your foot in the door.
Seriously, who needs slobs with no money in this hobby? Poor people steal a lot, firstup, and secondup, they just cannot afford decent models. I mean, we really don't WANT Slowsticks, GWS Zeros, or anything of that low-buck parkflyer ilk showing up at our field. Why are we even HAVING this conversation? I mean, you cannot afford AMA, so what's your point?
ORIGINAL: captinjohn
Hey....you can rattle on about telemarketers and XY and Z. The bottom line is we need a more fair way of getting AMA insurance. Its simple...if you got expensive RC eqipment and do compete....you should have to pay more than the part time low dollar RC flyers that just fly for fun once in a while. Also the guy that does not want cheap planes at his field....I hope you crash your big buck show off stuff. Just do not crash it when anyone is around. On second thught though...you probably have the $$$$ to get another. While the rest of us not so rich ones must help you pay for the same for AMA coverage.
Hey....you can rattle on about telemarketers and XY and Z. The bottom line is we need a more fair way of getting AMA insurance. Its simple...if you got expensive RC eqipment and do compete....you should have to pay more than the part time low dollar RC flyers that just fly for fun once in a while. Also the guy that does not want cheap planes at his field....I hope you crash your big buck show off stuff. Just do not crash it when anyone is around. On second thught though...you probably have the $$$$ to get another. While the rest of us not so rich ones must help you pay for the same for AMA coverage.
Seriously, who needs slobs with no money in this hobby? Poor people steal a lot, firstup, and secondup, they just cannot afford decent models. I mean, we really don't WANT Slowsticks, GWS Zeros, or anything of that low-buck parkflyer ilk showing up at our field. Why are we even HAVING this conversation? I mean, you cannot afford AMA, so what's your point?
Boy thats the first time I have heard such a statment made that poor people
should not be in this hobby. and your club requires you to clear 100k to join.
I dont clear that and I know of very few working people that do. if only the rich
could be in this hobby the AMA and Great Planes and most of all the other business
and organizations that make money of this hobby would have long since gone under
05-14-2006 | 04:34 AM
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RE: Variable Rate Program.
I was being as absurd as were you. You made the, "Ihope you crash your $5000.00 model airplane" statement. That takes you out of this brotherhood. I don't think that anyone who would make such a statement belongs in this hobby. you might want to read the PM that I sent you, if you want to know what I really think of you. You have doubled that opinion (in spades) Once again. Fair means everyone pays the same thing.
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