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Is the first Chartered PPP club violating the rules?

Old 02-04-2009, 09:27 AM
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Default RE: Is the first Chartered PPP club violating the rules?


ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy

I think I see the problem with this thread,
I am asking him to supply facts to support his hypothesis that there is some specific text in the local PPP Only rules that make it only apply to "flying". I guess first I need to get him to actual make that statement as a declaration of fact (with or without supporting data)
Previously, I was taking this approach
please refer to post 197,
in particular could you address this part:
Perhaps you are trying to say the PPP Only local rules are worded that it only pertains to flying?
OK, lets see that.
Show me that the local PPP only rule is worded that it only pertains to FLYING the models
and he just wont support his hypothesis of things being that way.
But now I am taking a different tack:
Now I'm confused. Well, I'm always a little confused.

As one of my favorite authors (Ayn Rand) said, " Contradictions do not exist. Whenever you think you are facing a contradiction, check your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong."

Ar you saying that PPP members cannot own or even hold a non-PPP legal plane? Is that the problem you have with the picture?
Old 02-04-2009, 12:52 PM
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Default RE: Is the first Chartered PPP club violating the rules?

<edit: whoops, I am confusing Robo with 804 here
but then, its not like they are being that different in this thread>



Nice Yes or No answer.

You are still clinging to MAYBE its ok because they didnt fly when they took it it the club.
And you want to use Cats or ownership as more hypotheticals.
Stop with the hypothetical similarities to the maybe hypothetical rules.
We are talking about Vegas Aces PPP club, not cats or having stuff in attics.


Why dont you make a declaration that
The Vegas Aces PPP Only rules are only appicable to FLYING the model
since that is the core of your repeating that the photo doesnt show them flying

You are relying on the Vegas Aces local rules to allow non-ppp planes to do what... anything except "fly"?
How is this rule you are trying to use worded?
According to your premiss that non-PPP are ok at the club as long as they dont fly
we can have DA100 Yaks and .46 glow sport planes drag racing on the runway... just stay on the ground.

If you want to say the photo doesnt show them flying,
then you need to declare that the local PPP Only rules only apply to "flying".
Meanwhile, the rest of us english speaking Insider Reading folks will still think
PPP Only means PPP Only


Yes or No
The Vegas Aces PPP Only rule only applies to "flying" in its text.
Stop with the hypothetics and maybes, declare it even if you dont want to prove it

and we are still waiting for you to declare the photo was indeed taken prior to clubbing up.
Old 02-04-2009, 12:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: Robotech

Ar you saying that PPP members cannot own or even hold a non-PPP legal plane? Is that the problem you have with the picture?
If I was more talented with photoshop I would post an edited copy of the Vegas picture with a cat holding a Stryker, along with the following questions:

1. Can cats join AMA as PPP members, or has Muncie initiated a special FPP (Feline Park Pilots) program, and are they hiding it from the rest of the membership?
1a. Are there any Pet Shop industry reps on the AMA marketing committee, and have they filed the proper conflict of interest papers with the EC?
2. If there isn't a special secret FPV program, have the Vegas Aces established local rules allowing FP's (Feline Pilots) to join their club?
3. If yes, do they receive the PPP magazine or do they get a monthly copy of "Cat Fancy" magazine?
4. Can they opt out of "Cat Fancy" if they don't want it?
5. Do they pay the same club dues as HPPP members (Human Park Pilot Program).
6. If not, do the FP's have fewer rights as club members than the HP's, and do they feel like second class citiz.......er........felines?
7. Has anyone notified the Las Vegas ASPCA? How does the local Canine population feel? Are they lobbying for a CPP membership tier?
8. Does the club provide litter boxes to avoid the obvious problems around the pilot stations?
9. If you own a cat pilot, but don't fly yourself, can you join either the club or AMA as an AFPP (Associate Feline Pilot Program) member?
10. Do either Dave Mathewson or Mark Smith own cats? How many EC members own cats? Do any own multiple cats? Does Horrace Cain own a cat?

OK, enouth. Time to get back to the very serious business of this thread.
Old 02-04-2009, 01:04 PM
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Default RE: Is the first Chartered PPP club violating the rules?

Can PPP own non-PPP planes?
Of course.
PPP can even FLY glow planes,
just not under the benefits of PPP/AMA membership
and certainly not at AMA chartered club fields
where those member benefits are required.

Can a PPP member take a 50cc Gas to a PPP Only club and bench break it in?
When it throws a blade and hits some spectator,
will the PPP Only club say 50cc gas is insured at the place with PPP Only rules?

Sure a PPP member can break in his 50cc gas at home,
just not under member benefits and not at a PPP Only club
Old 02-04-2009, 01:32 PM
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Default RE: Is the first Chartered PPP club violating the rules?

If I was you guys, (Bob an others) I'd quit posting in this thread altogether. I can't believe you all have let him drag you on for 12 pages worth...

This KE needs to get a job an get the heck off of here! He is one of those guys that can't stand to see somebody have something that he doesn't. If ya just quit answering him he'll finally shut up.

An I thought STL was a PITA....Geeezz

An NO I don't wanna here your thoughts on this KE


Since leaving here I have took up Ham Radio an get to deal with more intelligent people than this one above.


Ron
Old 02-04-2009, 01:50 PM
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This KE needs to get a job an get the heck off of here!
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:00 PM
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Default RE: Is the first Chartered PPP club violating the rules?

This nonsense has gone on long enough. As some in this thread seem to want to argue just for the sake of the argument I don't see any reason to leave this thread open.

Thread closed.

Ken

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