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speedracerntrixie 08-09-2023 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12779962)
Interesting. Do you think they are lying? Or trying to deceive us?

Do you have some compelling data to support your statement, or is it just your opinion?

Astro

Based on years of electronics manufacturing experience with companies such as Anritsu, Lockheed Martin, L3Harris and currently Curtiss Wright. Low cost components come mostly from China, labor costs in the US at the bottom level is at least $15 an hour. Of course the industry offers 401K, health insurance, PTOand Vacation benifits, Workers Comp insurance that add to labor costs. So that $15 per hour turns into $40 per hour costs to the company. Costs of development, acceptance and low market volume just don’t add up to a $99 US made product. Not accusing then of anything except finding a good loophole perhaps.

franklin_m 08-09-2023 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey (Post 12779961)
You've been predicting this stick beating for a couple of years now.

All that's happened is LOA's for clubs, altitude waivers via SRM panels, NOTAM's for sanctioned events with altitudes up to 1200 feet, expanded FRIA's from the original rule etc.

It's called incrementalism. Despite AMA's rhetoric to the contrary, you are NOT flying as you always have.

AMA members never had altitude limits at its clubs, now they do
AMA members never had to participate in SRM panels, now many do
AMA members never had to request NOTAMs, now they do
AMA members never had to ask for FRIAs, now they do
AMA members never had never take knowledge tests, now they do
AMA members never had to register with the government, now they do

That is hardly "fly as you always have"

BTW Andy, how many FRIAs have been approved for the SFRA? And have any FRIAs been denied? And how about sharing why they've been denied? And keep in mind, I rarely ask a question unless I already know the answer.

speedracerntrixie 08-09-2023 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12779992)
It's called incrementalism. Despite AMA's rhetoric to the contrary, you are NOT flying as you always have.

AMA members never had altitude limits at its clubs, now they do
AMA members never had to participate in SRM panels, now many do
AMA members never had to request NOTAMs, now they do
AMA members never had to ask for FRIAs, now they do
AMA members never had never take knowledge tests, now they do
AMA members never had to register with the government, now they do

That is hardly "fly as you always have"

BTW Andy, how many FRIAs have been approved for the SFRA? And have any FRIAs been denied? And how about sharing why they've been denied? And keep in mind, I rarely ask a question unless I already know the answer.

Just how do the 6 points you just made change physics or aerodynamics the keep our airplanes from flying as they did 30 years ago?

mongo 08-09-2023 09:58 PM

"whata maroon"

B.B. cr1948

franklin_m 08-10-2023 03:50 AM


Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie (Post 12780005)
Just how do the 6 points you just made change physics or aerodynamics the keep our airplanes from flying as they did 30 years ago?

Ooooo somebody is trying out the new word they learned!

This feeble attempt to redirect completely misses that BC was commenting about policy and regulation and not physics. Therefore my response was focused on policy and regulation (which have demonstrably changed) … and not physics.

astrohog 08-10-2023 05:37 AM

The desperate attempts to back one's way out of a corner never cease to amuse.....

Astro

ElectriMan 08-10-2023 07:07 AM

I think I might choose the Flite Test Module for my RID.

speedracerntrixie 08-10-2023 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12780027)
The desperate attempts to back one's way out of a corner never cease to amuse.....

Astro

LOL, all I did was use the same Tactic as Franklin did in the other active thread. What’s desperate here is your constant approval seeking by Franklin.

Who’s a good piggy…..you are…your a good piggy ( head pat )

astrohog 08-10-2023 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie (Post 12780033)
LOL, all I did was use the same Tactic as Franklin did in the other active thread. What’s desperate here is your constant approval seeking by Franklin.

Who’s a good piggy…..you are…your a good piggy ( head pat )

And right on cue….let the name-calling commence!

so predictable..

Astro

PS: it’s you’re not your….

ElectriMan 08-10-2023 08:29 AM

Or maybe the Spektrum module. They are really the same thing, just a little different package.

scale only 4 me 08-10-2023 08:35 AM

So on another note,, our club hasn't heard a peep since we summitted our sight info, little lone contacting us to submit the info for our second flying site, which they said they would do

But they did contact us 7 months after cashing our checks letting us know our charter and site insurance(s) had expired more than 3 months earlier, a few phone calls and emails worked that out, mistakes happen I guess, but was disturbing to find out we we a cancelled club for the better part of 4 months

I'm not a basher or a big fan boy of the AMA,, but they can use some improvement,, that's for sure

BarracudaHockey 08-10-2023 08:52 AM

If your FRIA is pending, chances are you're waiting on the FAA, they don't give updates, they approve or deny, denials thus far have been mostly requests for clarification and resubmission.

Approvals have been trickling in, its over 200 at this point and they are coming in daily a few at a time.

speedracerntrixie 08-10-2023 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12780035)
And right on cue….let the name-calling commence!

so predictable..

Astro

PS: it’s you’re not your….

Yep, quite predictable. You fire the first shot and then cry victim when it’s returned. Then go right after the Easter egg and play wanna be grammar police. Do you really think people that read this forum don’t see right through your BS?

astrohog 08-10-2023 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie (Post 12780045)
Yep, quite predictable. You fire the first shot and then cry victim when it’s returned. Then go right after the Easter egg and play wanna be grammar police. Do you really think people that read this forum don’t see right through your BS?

I simply voiced my amusement at your posts. In turn, you childishly call me a pig because you didn’t like what I posted. I did not make a personal attack on you, but you did on me. No whining, just pointed out that once again, you break the forum rules that you are so quick to report to moderation if it suits you. BS? only on your end. The hypocrisy and irony are strong in you.

Astro

speedracerntrixie 08-10-2023 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12780027)
The desperate attempts to back one's way out of a corner never cease to amuse.....

Astro

This is the first shot. If you are going to deny that it wasn’t aimed at me then you’re a bigger liar then your buddy.

init4fun 08-10-2023 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by ElectriMan (Post 12780031)
I think I might choose the Flite Test Module for my RID.


Originally Posted by ElectriMan (Post 12780039)
Or maybe the Spektrum module. They are really the same thing, just a little different package.

Hi ElectriMan, I was actually thinking of getting one of each, and one after another fly them in the same plane to see if there is any difference between the two ;)

astrohog 08-10-2023 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie (Post 12780048)
This is the first shot. If you are going to deny that it wasn’t aimed at me then you’re a bigger liar then your buddy.

That is not a personal attack. I just stated what was obvious. In other words, facts and reality. Not against forum rules, but calling someone a pig is.

If you cannot see the difference, that is just your emotions clouding your ability to see things impartially.

Astro

speedracerntrixie 08-10-2023 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12780060)
That is not a personal attack. I just stated what was obvious. In other words, facts and reality. Not against forum rules, but calling someone a pig is.

If you cannot see the difference, that is just your emotions clouding your ability to see things impartially.

Astro

LOL, Woke speak.

astrohog 08-10-2023 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie (Post 12780063)
LOL, Woke speak.

It’s pretty clear you have zero clue what woke even means…..

🤣🤣🤣

ElectriMan 08-11-2023 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by ElectriMan (Post 12780031)
I think I might choose the Flite Test Module for my RID.


Originally Posted by ElectriMan (Post 12780039)
Or maybe the Spektrum module. They are really the same thing, just a little different package.


Originally Posted by init4fun (Post 12780054)
Hi ElectriMan, I was actually thinking of getting one of each, and one after another fly them in the same plane to see if there is any difference between the two ;)

They will very likely be the same thing. I saw them both at the EAA AirVenture and as far as I could tell they had the same components. They still are not quite what I would like because they have more functions than I need to qualify as RID.
They have functionality to work with a flight controller for, at least, semi-autonomous if not fully autonomous operation. The additional cost is for the extra firmware that I will never need. I asked the rep from Flite Test if they would have a version without the extra functions for a lesser price and he said no.
So what FAA proposed as a simple RID requirement has morphed into something else by the makers.
I just want a $50 module that makes FAA happy. I will fly mostly at a FRIA but the occasional time I want to go across the street from my house to fly in an open field where my airplane will cause no problem is now a problem.


Now back to the ridiculous argument. . . .

BarracudaHockey 08-11-2023 08:09 AM

Ya I'm in a similar boat. Our club is a FRIA but I go to a lot of events and I'm sure they won't all be FRIA's and I want a cheap no-frills module that meets the minimum requirements for the minimum price.

ECHO24 08-11-2023 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey (Post 12780130)
Ya I'm in a similar boat. Our club is a FRIA but I go to a lot of events and I'm sure they won't all be FRIA's and I want a cheap no-frills module that meets the minimum requirements for the minimum price.

No surprise that Flight Test would sponsor a Remote ID module tailored to flight controllers. FT's key demographic includes the hobby drone crowd. More than a year ago in an AMA YouTube video Tyler Dobbs said AMA was working on Remote ID modules at AMA headquarters. What ever happened to that effort?

BarracudaHockey 08-11-2023 03:29 PM

I think you took that to mean we were looking to manufacture them, that was never the case. We have been provided samples over the last few months and they were evaluating them and the associated apps as they came in from the manufactures.

ECHO24 08-11-2023 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey (Post 12780166)
I think you took that to mean we were looking to manufacture them, that was never the case. We have been provided samples over the last few months and they were evaluating them and the associated apps as they came in from the manufactures.

No, Tyler Dobbs said they had developers testing Remote ID modules at AMA headquarters, meaning some inside knowledge of upcoming products. He even commented on price, around $150 to $200 (at the time) with that expected to drop over time and, to your situation and most of the rest of us, with modules stripped down with less features. The video had Dobbs, Chad Budreau, and a semi-coherent Rich Hanson discussing the new reality of the FAA now running things. It was late last year as I recall. I posted the link here at the time but I'd have to go back and find it.

franklin_m 08-12-2023 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by ECHO24 (Post 12780172)
... a semi-coherent Rich Hanson ...

And that's who's "leading" the AMA?


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