RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

we watch the AMA forum but we will let a lot more go in here that we will NOT let go anyplace else on RCU. Politics is ugly at times.

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

scottrc

While it is certainly true that Horrace and I do not see eye to eye on many topics related to the AMA, we do post information that should be of interest to many wanting to know more about the AMA. That is part of what I view as the reason for the existence of this forum, and the reason for my participation in it.

If you read and comprehend the posts, you would be able to more accurately dispense information. As often as you are in this forum, you should know everything there is to know about AMA insurance, for instance. Instead you show your lack of understanding and are unhelpful in other threads where you could be of help. In particular I am thinking about the current thread in the clubhouse where you posted in the thread entitled "Being hit by a plane" http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Bein...1670560/tm.htm . Neither Horrce, nor I see every thread in every fourum, although it's obvious that we do watch the AMA forum fairly closely. Neither of us posts for the benefit of the other.

Perhaps your right. If you don't read the posts and ignore their content, we may be wasting out time in trying to share the information we have. I am sure that we both post in hopes that others will learn something.

JR

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

Hi ya'll,
Not a word here refers to finances! or new buildings!
This is more close to home and something ya'll can take action with.
A long standing duty of AMA is to promote model aviation? One manner is NOT TO restrict
progress? This factor has brought all the goodies and goodness we have today? There is
no reason for restrictions?
POINT IS> with recent changes in the safety code a major restriction has been made when
near thw last portion of the R/C section it says " Autonomous flight of model aircraft is not
allowed"
Recognizing one reason for this a modification to that rule has been made and submitted to
the AMA for consideration. The change reads as follows>
" Any model aircraft using autonmous flight shall operate within the line of sight only and will
also have a redundent 72 mhz system operating on board"
HELP IS ASKED>
If you agree with change PLEASE take a moment to advise you DVP and copy to headquarters
if you can.
Many thanks, it will help us all!

Hal deBolt AMA 1520

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

Morning Hal

Who made this suggestion?

thanks

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

Hi Mr. DeBolt

I know you have been quite active since the rule was placed in the Safety Code attempting to have it removed or modified. I think most of the members of this forum are supportive of that effort.

I do have a of couple questions, however.

Is there really sufficient concern by govenment agencies to have any limits on autonomous flight to need a rule at all? What is your take on the issue? Have the powers that be convinced you that there is a real cause for concern?

If, indeed, there is cause for some rule, why limit it to 72 mHz? That elimiates the hams and those developing spread spectrum on 900 mHz or 2.4 gHz. It would seem that a redundant system on any legal band, other than possibly 27 mHz, might be in the better interest of all modelers?


JR

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

Hi ya/ll,
I don't know how to say it except that RCU sure knows how to screw up! I just spent 45 min.
replying to your expressions,
When asked, RCU did not use that post, the effort disappeared! Frankly I do not have time
to try once more or twice or three times?
Part of the reply can be found elsewhere on this Forum under Autnomous models.
Otherwise in short> AMA would noit approve publishing a report of one modelers autonomous flight with Spread Spectrum R/C
Sure sorry for the screw up!

Hal deBolt

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

Me again,
I shoulkd explain some, in short at least>
My concern was generated by the Model Aviation rejection of a report of a local modelers
accomplishments which envolved autonmous flight and Spread Spectrum R/C.
The AMA president created the rejection envolving autonomous flight in spite of his action
with Maynard's amazing flight.
Spread Spectrum report was rejected by the frequency chairman saying operation experience
was needed when that is what the report describes.
Bottom line seems to be an underlying reason for the rejection not undertood.
Best of all> Wil Byers publishs a fine juornal "Quiet Flyer" The June issue is scheduled to
presnt my report, at least Wil is not intimedated!
Hey, this sounds "AMA negative", not meant so, AMA is our life blood!
Good luck,

Hal deBolt

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

There is a basic rule of finance SKIPPED in the introduction to that financial analysis

NET WORTH.

Without a basic explaination of that... you'll miss the boat on financial management EVERY time.

Net Worth = Assets - liabilities. Simplisticly (as with his explaination of assets...) you have a $5 million piece of property, and a $4 million mortgage, you have a net worth of $1 million. (if there's no other assets or liabilities...)

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The purpose of a for profit corporation's activities (IBM as an example) is to continuously increase its net worth. If all the corporation ever does is just meet payroll and expenses without the COMPANY gaining value... its not a very good business. (and the stock will never gain value.) If the companie's payroll and expenses exceed its income... its going to lose value (Like Enron, the stock will quickly become worthless... though they managed to hide it for a while, it was just a big toilet for cash flushing.)

A Not-for-Profit or Non-Profit (there's a difference... but a [:'(]Lawyer[:'(] would have to explain it) organization is strictly limited on how it can handle its finances. The purpose of the organzation is NOT to earn money, rather to SPEND it. (preferably in a manner meeting the goal of the organization.)

The AMA's purchase of land, which equals flying sites, is a proper use of funds for an organization that promotes an activity that needs those sites.

The AMA's program which subsidizes some flying site improvements is seen as a TOTAL loss on the AMA books. The Clubs receiving those funds though... end up able to provide a better flying site for thier members. (Not a bad idea for your local club to check into it...)

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As for RCUniverse dropping posts... it happens occasionally, especially with long posts. My answer tothe problem... I ALWAYS highlight the entiere post I have written, then press CTRL+INSERT just before hitting the OK button. Then if the post is lost... it just takes a couple of clicks and pressing SHIFT+INSERT to paste the text right back in.

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

The Autonomous flight issue... kind of difficult to deal with.

Define autonomous.[>:]

ALL Free Flight models with timer activated dethermalizers could be called autonomous. You start it, you release it... it takes care of itself until it lands.

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

Huber

Go find the thread that embodied the analysis. The numbers are ALL there and were discussed ad nauseum. The analysis was EXACTLY what Marc asked for.

If you are bound and determined, the 2003 statement, which will be relatively current will be on the AMA site soon and we can do it all again.

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

Is it possible the moderators could take the posts in this thread about autonomous flight and move them to their own thread?

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

Posting to RCU is automatic... we do not decide which posts make it or don't. We do however monitor existing threads and posts to ensure they follow the community policies. If you would like to discuss further how RCU works anyone may send me an email or PM and I will be glad to help.

RE: Something you might make yourself aware of
 

Moving individual posts is not an option with the current software yet, but it is coming.