Re: Re: AMA
 

Horrace,
AMA spent millions on buildings and other things, yet people continue to say that AMA cannot afford TV ads. Maybe so, but why couldn't they make a video showcasing all aspects of aeromodeling or whatever else they would/should show to the public and rent, lend, sell, give away these tapes to the members, schools, etc.? Whomever gets these video tapes could give them to local cable TV stations. I know that these stations are always looking for something to air. AMA should afford to do something like that.

We had no trouble doing this at no cost to us:

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AMA
 

I believe the information Video is a good Idea and do-able, I have not looked into it yet but there may already be something available.

Several of our clubs and clubs I visit get News Coverage in the local stations for their Annual Fly-Ins and such, it very easy to get a spot on the local news if you combine your Fly-in or funfly with a charity of some kind, Like The Taylor Mo. club does for M.D.A. every year.

If I were wanting more exposer of my activity I would want to advertise it in venues of potential customers or recruits not to the folks that are already part of the organization . For Model Aviation I would look more to Car Mags, Sports Mags, Outdoor Mags etc. as well as the M.A. mags.

In order for a national TV or radio Ads to do any kind of return for cost it would have to be during a major event , that alone could cost more than the HQ and NFS complex did in just a few ads. I would Love to see it , but I'm not sure I would want to be an officer in the AMA the next day after the financial report came out.

I believe if the members were to see the cost proposals for TV and radio ads and were given the decision to make they would vote it down. I don't believe the same would be true for the HQ and NFS if they look at the big picture, the complex may be very large as far as acres go , but IMO LAND is still one of the better investments and you can almost always make money on it, IMO it was a wise decision to invest in the land and the complex if anything to have something to fall back on.

Why did the AMA
 

I would just like to say that most AMA members are very militant acting, especially when the SFA was around. Not to friendly, I witnessed this discrimination first hand. I was a member of the AMA and the SFA, I used the AMA card to fly at AMA clubs and the SFA for good insurance. I left the AMA after it destroyed the SFA, and I pray that another organization will be created to give us a choice. With no competition, the AMA will not get any better either, you can vote till your blue in the face! Also don't tell me what the AMA has done for modeling, yes it has done well, now we need CHANGE!!

Luke

AMA
 

Theres is an alternitive, United Modelers Of America, UMA. No argument there are jerks of every knid and I am sure there were some not to friendly to SFA people, we have fields here that accepted both, It never really bothered me. There are Modelers not friendly to Heli Pilots at primary fixed wing places, Unfriendlys at powered sites aginst gliders , unfriendlys to electric from glow and gas , and all vise versa as well. the list goes on. The AMA was recovering MY money spent to defend itself aginst the SFA , AMA had every right to and won. All the SFA wanted to do was make a quick buck off the AMA and got spanked for it. I am all for competition, When another organization comes along and wants to offer ALL the benifits that AMA offers , then I will jump on board . so far nobodys come close.

Why did the AMA
 

Hi Dave, you seem a little confused about a few things so at the risk of beating a dead horse I’ll try to help. The SFA filed a lawsuit against the AMA because the AMA was denying tax paying, insured citizens from flying on public taxpayer supported property. This was open discrimination by the AMA. The AMA spent your money on its very fine California lawyers defending its monopoly.

I addressed statements like this in my previous post.

Everyone has a different definition of benefits, insurance obviously isn’t to high on your list, and that’s a good thing if you’re an AMA member! The AMA has no member to member or member to family member coverage. What is so ridiculous about that? Well, who are you most likely to fly a plane into at the field? The AMA will tell you in their own publications that the insurance is to protect the site owners, not the individual. Why does the AMA have you sign a waver on the application saying you can’t file a lawsuit against them if they won’t pay in the event you are involved in an accident? Nice “Insurance” policy! I’m not a lawyer, but I’m not an idiot either. I’m involved in this hobby for pleasure, I don’t receive my self worth from it or some organization, like some obviously do because in life they are so powerless and their life is so utterly boring. I'm not saying this is you Dave, that is just how a lot of AMA'ers act. My Dad was an AMA member in 1942, he had a Comet Sailplane with a Dennymite on the nose. Why do I say this? The no lifers think I have no history with the hobby, but I do. I'm just not a blind follower, if I think you or any organization is full of sh** I'll tell ya where to go!

Take care, and I'll see ya around. I'm done with this thread though!

Luke
AMA :thumbdown

Why did the AMA
 

I would love to know more about this. This appears, to my non-layer mind, to be a violation of the by-laws and illegal.

Why did the AMA
 

Jon, I suggest you not waste your time looking for proof of this allegation since it is pure unadulterated B.S.

Regards,

Bill Lee

Why did the AMA
 

Evening Bill,

There are better ways to get the results you want that do not involve the unpleasant types of things you seem to be interested in doing these days.

You have inadvertently given the wrong impression by the out of context misquoting of the statement, but that is not really a problem in this case. Unless you are setting the new standard for AMA Fellows to communicate with the pond scum membership, you have allowed what is probably bad information fester and do damage to those who would put beans in their noses.

In other words, it is worth his time to do the research and provide the documentation. There are at lest 2 of us who would expect him to provide the background proofs or withdraw the statement as soon as possible as we perceive it damages our organization. I suspect that he has heard a twisted version of something that happened, but like others I wish proof.

Bill, that is what is needed is for JON to prove or disprove the misinformation you are mistakenly giving credence to by chasing him off with your alpha male barnyard references. We need to put out the fire, not make more smoke.

Regards.

Why did the AMA
 

Yes, Jim, you're right: my choice of language was poorly made. Best it should have said:

"Jon, I suggest you not waste your time looking for proof of this allegation since it is simply not true."

The rest of your rant needs no response.

Bill Lee

Why did the AMA
 

In case you had not noticed, JON made the statement that you are calling a lie. Rather than calling an AMA member a liar, I would have expected you to ask him to withdraw the allegation or support it with proof.

So much for expecting our newest AMA FELLOW to be part of the team interested in protecting the AMA from stupid unfounded rumor.

Now if you really want a rant, read on and get an education at no extra charge. I was part of the Marine Corps and in RVN for 2 years learning much worse language than you have used, but I challenge you to find where *I* have used any of it. From that observation we should be able to infer that knowing foul language does not mean it has to be used. In fact, if you search carefully enough you will find there are many ways to properly say worse.

This means that the use of foul language is unnecessary and uncalled for, but many resort to it. I have learned from observation that those who elect to use that type of language for written (recorded) communication are generally are lacking in other skills and use the shock value of the filth to divert the readers attention from their deficiencies. Usually those shortages are in mental agility and capability.

Cheers

hello
 

hello jim


semper fi

dennis :)

AT-EASE MARINE
 

Hey Marine, AT-EASE or else I'll put you in the POT Shack for the duration of a libo run to Bangkok via Pataya Beach :D

BV

Why did the AMA
 

It would appear we've gotten off subject. Please keep it on track and avoid commentary directed towards flaming another individual. Thanks.

Why did the AMA
 

To Jim and Dennis...Semper Fi guys...and is it my imagination or did someone mention helios?