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Instructor 02-07-2009 11:46 PM

Board Members Using Treasure For Self...
 
Is it legal for the Board Members to use the club treasure to take themself out to dinner?

littlecrankshaf 02-08-2009 12:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: Instructor

Is it leagle for the Board Members to use the club treasure to take themself out to dinner?
At the risk of being characterized as a "guard house lawyer" I would say it depends on a few things primarily set fourth in the bylaws...but no doubt, unethical to say the least in my opinion as a regular, non-lawyer person.

Mode One 02-08-2009 07:12 AM

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I agree with LCS, I guess if the club's By-Laws specifically describe the Board's ability to do so, then yes it is legal. Even if the By-Laws state it is legal, I still think it is unethical!

DavidAgar 02-08-2009 08:44 AM

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I have to agree, legal or not, nothing but bad taste on the boards part. Dave

rcmiket 02-08-2009 10:32 AM

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ORIGINAL: Instructor

Is it legal for the Board Members to use the club treasure to take themself out to dinner?
What was the circumstances surrounding this meal? Was it club business or just a free lunch? Before I toss them under the bus I'd like more info.
Mike

Muroc1 02-08-2009 02:34 PM

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Well shucks, our club doesn't have any treasure. At least none that I am aware of. :( :D

Sounds a little fishy to me. How do you know club funds were used?

Frank

Instructor 02-08-2009 03:22 PM

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It wasn't the club I belong to. It was from another club. I know one of the members and he sent me a copy of their news letter that mentioned it in the news letter. I'm not going to tell anyone the name of that club, so don't even brother to ASK........

rcmiket 02-08-2009 03:52 PM

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So you don't even know the details? Why even start this tread if you don't even know the facts surrounding this? Mike

vicman 02-08-2009 04:07 PM

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I saw it on the internet...no, I know a guy who's girlfriend's little brother has a buddy who told him...no, my grandfather's cousin once removed was in close association with a person who knows the waiter at the restaruant...er...it just has to be true.[sm=bananahead.gif]

KidEpoxy 02-08-2009 04:08 PM

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There could be a million reasons that justify the meal
heck, they could be schmoozing the landowner / Parks Mgr with a nice dinner for all we know.

Odd? yes.
Wrong? Dont have enough info on what happened or what is allowed to happen

rcmiket 02-08-2009 04:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy

There could be a million reasons that justify the meal
heck, they could be schmoozing the landowner / Parks Mgr with a nice dinner for all we know.

Odd? yes.
Wrong? Dont have enough info on what happened or what is allowed to happen
Odd? Whats wrong with social networking to keep a field or generate funds to build one? Were selling a product (us) and sometimes it takes a lunch or two to get the desired results. Our club is doing that now and no one seems to mind as long as we get the results. Mike

KidEpoxy 02-08-2009 05:13 PM

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I was saying that it is odd that the justification for the meal is not well known to relevant parties.
I would imagine Landowner Dinner Meeting would have been a more appropriate description than just unexplained Board Dinner.... or whatever justified the dinner should have been part of the description

rcmiket 02-08-2009 05:24 PM

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I agree 100%. Funny how these things get started no facts just assumptions. Mike

LeeL 02-08-2009 06:23 PM

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(Deleted) Never mind

abel_pranger 02-08-2009 06:36 PM

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I think it is perfectly okay if I am on the board, else the offending board members should be taken out and shot. Hecky darn, isn't that the way many BoD members think? Serves the club right for having a BoD rather than club officers that represent the will of the members as expressed democratically.:eek:

Abel

Stickbuilder 02-08-2009 06:44 PM

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Iknow the answer!!!!!!! I know the answer!!!!!!!

They are an AMA club, therefore they had to be doing something wrong, or bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D Right? Did I win the prize?

Bill, AMA 4720

Bob Mitchell 02-08-2009 07:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder

Iknow the answer!!!!!!! I know the answer!!!!!!!

They are an AMA club, therefore they had to be doing something wrong, or bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D Right? Did I win the prize?

Bill, AMA 4720
Yep. Two H9 ARF's and a Parkzone electric foamy. :D

Seems to me that without some specifics one can't really draw any conclusions on this. At least I can't.

Muroc1 02-08-2009 07:39 PM

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I agree. What have we got to go on? Not enough details to give a decent answer.

Frank

Kemosobie 02-08-2009 07:50 PM

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All I want to know is,What's for dinner?

Robotech 02-08-2009 08:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: KidEpoxy

There could be a million reasons that justify the meal
heck, they could be schmoozing the landowner / Parks Mgr with a nice dinner for all we know.
There's coffee and donuts for that.

combatpigg 02-08-2009 08:58 PM

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Hopefully the story goes something like this....a couple of club members donated an entire Saturday and run time on their own heavy equipment to improve the drainage at the club field in exchange for a dinner at IHOP. Like everyone else has already alluded to, this story so far is reminiscent of "Chicken Little" screaming his little head off over nothing.

Stickbuilder 02-08-2009 10:26 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bob Mitchell



ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder

Iknow the answer!!!!!!! I know the answer!!!!!!!

They are an AMA club, therefore they had to be doing something wrong, or bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D:D Right? Did I win the prize?

Bill, AMA 4720
Yep. Two H9 ARF's and a Parkzone electric foamy. :D

Seems to me that without some specifics one can't really draw any conclusions on this. At least I can't.
2 ARF's and an electric Foamy???????????????[:'(][:'(][:'(]

YUCK!!!!! I'm Out!

Bill, AMA 4720

KidEpoxy 02-08-2009 10:35 PM

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Robo
Heck yeah, we dont even know if that Board Dinner was
at DunkinDonuts or the Walmart Bakery Dept [8D]

Instructor 02-11-2009 12:06 PM

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Just as I thought. I try to get someone's input to a problem with another club and all I get is a bunch of wise A_ _ giving me their opinon. If this was your club and they were doing it without you knowing it, wouldn't you be a little upset???

KidEpoxy 02-11-2009 12:30 PM

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You could let us know that the dinner was a club Inauguration Dinner that the Board voted on paying for.


President Steve Brown thanked outgoing board member, JR Schiager, for his 2 years
service as Committee/Events Director. Steve reported that Dan Hughes had chosen not to
serve on the board at this time. Steve made motion that the club fund tonight’s Inaugural
Dinner/Board Meeting, motion approved.
I guess the real question is
were the club members included in the dues paid Inaugural Dinner,
can members attend board meetings? Can they attend Inaugurations?

But I'm sure the board has voted to spend club monies on stuff for parts of the club before,
this time round it is the Board part.
There is plenty of legitimate focused spending... like maybe putting up a couple poles for the club Pylon guys. Or a wheelchair pilot station for a guy that needs one. Or spending for club freebies: Club BBQ Day.... or Inaugural Dinner.

Would we even be having this thread if that Inauguration was done with
a dues paid BBQ Day attended by all club members?
Was the Inauguration just a poorly promoted no-lead-time club dinner?


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