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Old 03-27-2011 | 07:46 AM
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I was wondering if anyone has some feedback on this plane?
I am teaching my son to fly this spring and picked up one at my LHS, he is 10 so the cool factor of this plane should keep him going once he learns the basics... I havent started putting it together yet, we are building a Ultra sport 60 right now. But the weather is starting to change so I will be starting it soon, so we have it all ready to go...
I did open it up and checked it out and it looked pretty nice for $107.99. All the control surfaces are pre hinged with real hinges and the balsa ply construction looked pretty good at a glance...

It calls for a 40-50 size motor and as luck has it, all I have laying around are some old 40's and a old OS 60. Do you think the 60 would be overkill, or would I be better off picking up a 46 for it?

I can post some pics once we start on it, thanks for any feedback you might have..
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Its a neat looking plane isnt it. I was thinking of getting one also and keeping it slow with the smallest motor usable, You know flying on the wing and not the prop.

Id put the 46 on it for training.
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Yeah I thought it was pretty cool.. I bet with a 40 you could really slow it down with all the extra lift you will get from the wide fuse and a 69" ws to boot.. Think it would be a hard plane to beat in a limbo contest at a fun fly.... I think i will skip using the OS 60, no need to make my sons first plane a fast one.. Looks like maybe a ST 45 will do the trick, last one i had was a great motor..........
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i just got my sons done this week he is 9 .i put a os 46 in his the ship is a liitle faster than the reg trainers but it will slow down ALOT.the only change i made to it was the rod to the elevator i used a 4-40 rod for my own self satifaction .his cg is right on .he got his first flight on it at the local aishow with me helping himon the sticks alittle .and no this is not his first plane he had a little electric rascal he used to fly and performe with till we lost it you will like this ship any more quistions just ask away
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i just got my sons done this week he is 9 .i put a os 46 in his the ship is a liitle faster than the reg trainers but it will slow down ALOT.the only change i made to it was the rod to the elevator i used a 4-40 rod for my own self satifaction .his cg is right on .he got his first flight on it at the local aishow with me helping himon the sticks alittle .and no this is not his first plane he had a little electric rascal he used to fly and performe with till we lost it you will like this ship any more quistions just ask away

Awesome, glad to here it flys good. I will take a good look at the elv. pushrod, sounds like I will change mine as well.. If I ever question if something is strong enough, I change it.. Just not worth taking a chance.. Did you go with the control trows in the manual, or something else? Also, how was the rest of the hardware?
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the rest of the hard wear looked and works ok no high stress stuff there i allso put 2-56 on the wings due to easier adjustment if needed .as for control throws i just set  up to what i know and like if needed i can get the throws i have on his and let you know if you want
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the rest of the hard wear looked and works ok no high stress stuff there i allso put 2-56 on the wings due to easier adjustment if needed .as for control throws i just set up to what i know and like if needed i can get the throws i have on his and let you know if you want

No worries Mate, I will set them up with what works for us.. I think he is really going to enjoy this plane, pics arecoming...
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good to hear
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I had the original design by MRC , sold by Jeff to MRC .Knew Jeff personally when he ran a hobby shop in KOP Pa . The plane was scratch build by Jeff for fun and hanging in his shop . Jeff got so many inquires about the model and cool factor that he sold the design to MRC /Altech .
The original kit was for a fuel format , I learned on a .45 then moved the baby into a 90 , it was a beaste with the 90 . I modified it many times over the years and finally lost it due to a radio glitch
You will love the format of this plane and how it flys , the new kits are lighter and better
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I am currently flying the WM Tamecat Trainer as a weekend sport plane, it is a real joy to fly, started with
a GMS 46 but now have a 40 in it and it is just right. Adjust the throws on low rates to a very small amount
of movement, this plane is very sensistive to both elevator and aileron and can become a handfull in a
heart beat, but it is aslo a very docile kitty cat at low speed. The only mods I would suggest is to use 4-40
screws w/lock nuts on the nose gear bearing block as it will pull away on a more than perfect landing or on
a rough field. It also suffers from tipping over very easily when turning too sharply during taxiing. We have
an 11 year old kid at our field that has only been flying for 3 months that is now flying a GP Escape as his 2nd
plane and can amaze all of us by the control he has and the will to try anything with his plane, get your son on a
simulator and he will do just fine.

BTW mine has approx 3 oz of lead in the very tail end to balance very slightly nose heavy.

When I had the 46 in her with a 10/7 prop at full throttle this thing was a rocket ship, does the most amazing
inverted flat spins and recovers with a little power & elevator.

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Here are some pics of my TameCat, just to get those fingers going on the assembly.

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I did a review on it for R/C Report magazine. It will be an excellent trainer.

Do not put the 60 in it unless you want to start adding weight to the rear. The Tamecat has an extremely long nose and will end up too nose heavy if you aren't careful. This will make it harder to land as it will tend to run out of up elevator control. If you power it like a trainer with a plain bearing .40 (OS .40LA, OS .46LA, Thunder Tiger .42GP) it will fly great for your son.

I built a second ARF, but modified the wings with a symmetrical airfoil to make it into a sharp looking sport plane. I used an OS .55AX in this oneand, even though the .55 is only an ounce heavier than the .46AX, it was very nose heavy. I ended up moving the battery back just inside the fake jet exhaust using an extension and then adding a full length stick-on weight.

The ARF trainer, as it comes does not need a ball bearing .46 or more for a student. The higher power will only make it worse for him. If your son is just 10, stick to a trainer engine.
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Here are some pics of my TameCat, just to get those fingers going on the assembly.

Bill D.
Looks good..... We are going to start ours soon, my son keeps looking at the box while we are working on the ultra sport...lol I wonder whats going through his head...
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I did a review on it for R/C Report magazine. It will be an excellent trainer.

Do not put the 60 in it unless you want to start adding weight to the rear. The Tamecat has an extremely long nose and will end up too nose heavy if you aren't careful. This will make it harder to land as it will tend to run out of up elevator control. If you power it like a trainer with a plain bearing .40 (OS .40LA, OS .46LA, Thunder Tiger .42GP) it will fly great for your son.

I built a second ARF, but modified the wings with a symmetrical airfoil to make it into a sharp looking sport plane. I used an OS .55AX in this oneand, even though the .55 is only an ounce heavier than the .46AX, it was very nose heavy. I ended up moving the battery back just inside the fake jet exhaust using an extension and then adding a full length stick-on weight.

The ARF trainer, as it comes does not need a ball bearing .46 or more for a student. The higher power will only make it worse for him. If your son is just 10, stick to a trainer engine.
Thanks for to advice ED, we are going to keep it tame, not arocket ship.. The reason I was thinking a biggermotor was the fact it hada big WS 69", but i see it's not needed...
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not needed at all man with my kids 46 in his he was cruising around less that half throttle
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I looked at one of these many years ago; I assume it was the MRC kit. The workmanship wasn't too spiffy, and the pieces/parts weighed a TON.

One assumes that World Models has produced a better offering?

My #2 grandson is 9, and becoming interested. I too think a "regular" box trainer would bore him, so I built an H9 P-51 "trainer", the original yellow-nose version. Let's just say I was rather underwhelmed with this model's performance. It flies, but does not react the way I think a youngster needs. To be fair, I have only flown it twice, was unimpressed, and put it up. Perhaps if I spent some time tweaking the set-up, prop, etc., it might be "better".

But the TameCat is just too cool. Still, it seems a bit large for a plain bearing .40. I do have a good-condition OS .40FP laying idle. I would like to read of some more experiences with the model here...

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a 40 will fly this ship with no prob its not heavy plus alot of lift from the wing and body
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I am starting it tonight with my son, he really wants to get it in the air.. I am just gonna put a Evolution 40NT on it, can always change the motor as his skills advance..
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These posts have helped me to decide I'm going to put my unstarted kit up for sale. Just doesn't seem like I would be into it enough. Thanks guys. Joe
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Started on it tonight, i'm pretty impressed so far.. Everything looks to be built good, with plenty of glue on what i can see.. The wing went together very nice and is nice and straight, gonna let it dry over night... The only thing I am changing so far is the control rods and will connect to the servos with "Z" bends, not the supplied EZ connectors.. As stated by others, 4-40 is the way to go.. As far as ARF's go, this one has most of the work done. Should have it done in a couple of nights...</p>
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Question on the hinges:

It says they are pre glued, with the arrow pointing to the control surface side of the hinge. Then the code for applying epoxy is also in the box.(pic 1&amp;2)I am thinking it has to be glued to the flying surface, but i cant get them apart. Am I missing something here, are they glued already? I tried all the control surfaces and I cant get them apart using normal force, don't want to pull them out if they are glued...

Here are some pics of the fuse, you can see the glue and that is always a good thing.. The quality of this arf is very good and you cant beat the price..
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Question on the hinges:

It says they are pre glued, with the arrow pointing to the control surface side of the hinge. Then the code for applying epoxy is also in the box.(pic 1&amp;2)I am thinking it has to be glued to the flying surface, but i cant get them apart. Am I missing something here, are they glued already? I tried all the control surfaces and I cant get them apart using normal force, don't want to pull them out if they are glued...

Here are some pics of the fuse, you can see the glue and that is always a good thing.. The quality of this arf is very good and you cant beat the price..
Anybody got anything on my hinge problem?
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i saw the same thing on my kids i tried my hardest to pull apart
no can do i think the man was changed afterward  
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i saw the same thing on my kids i tried my hardest to pull apart
no can do i think the man was changed afterward
Yeah, I tried again and there is no way they are not glued. I wonder if the same guy put ours together.. I dohave a couple finger prints on the rudders from the epoxy, we should send it to CSI...lol

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<span lang="EN">I mocked up the motor last night and with the recommended 4.25" from the firewall, the exhaust doesn&rsquo;t clear the cut out in the fuse. If I move the motor forward 3/8" she fits perfect. Other then the cowl fitting right, I don't see this being a big deal to move it forward, I can always build a ring around the firewall for the cowl.. You see any problems doing this?</span>
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