ok i'm, just getting into rc planes and yes... electric sorry guys i had a park pilot by hobbico and had a blast with it, i got to the point where i was doing loops and stalls with it. ok so i felt i wanted something better, i got talked into a gws me-109 which wasnt that hard to build really.. or am i wrong? i got it built put my servos in and took it out for its first flight... first mistake was learning about servo reversing and placement... second was hand launch without testing ... so pull back on stick it slammed into the ground i fixed it but gave up because it will not fly now. boy that was a fun time.. think i was po'd for a week ok so then i got the gws beaver and this is a fun plane, its like the ppilot only more power. once you learn the hard way to secure the wing struts or watch it fall to the ground like a shot duck its a good flier. got bored with the beaver so then i bought the gws p-17 but i cant get it to fly..... now i'm flying the gws e-starter, fun plane but i really would like to fly the 109 or 17... i have a pretty good knowledge of balancing them but what else could be the problem? other than i suck ok lol are the gws warplanes just not as friendly and or whats the trick?

No there easy to fly but the one thing you have to do is double check everything, cg, throw direction(a must!), surface travel and always test the first few hand launches with a buddy doing the toss. The low wing has a natural tendency to dive on power-up, the high wing will climb. You need the hand on the sticks and not holding the plane in one hand and the radio in the other. Once you get the feel of recovery on launch, you can give it a try yourself. If you think that is hard try doing it with a 1/2a quickie plane, you have to be real fast on the sticks after the toss. But the good news is that once you master the hand toss on the plane and get bored you could go into the 1/2a planes and start having a blast doing the same thing but with more time and speed while on the sticks.

thanks for the reply pb66. well that explains the me-109 cause she dove and i pulled back yer my servo was reversed so it dove.. ugly ugly ending so whats better hand launch or run it off the ground?

On something that small, hand toss, ROG can get real ugly real fast sometimes. Plus I don't know if your flying it off grass or pavement, grass is easier to ROG but pavement is less drag. I would stick to the basics and if you have no helper, try to launch it in a little taller grass area, just in case something goes wrong you can have the cushion of the grass.

aurora, CO? how is the snow out there? I lived in steamboat for a year, just beautiful living in the mountains. I see why your going electric, engine tunning is a little tougher up there but not that hard. If you do go nitro, be meticulous about your needle settings, they will make or break your flight! (no pun intended.)

oh no i'm not ready for gas i'm dangerous enough with electric lol. snow... its been a lousy year again gonna be water restrictions all summer.
ok so one more question, i've learned that your better off using a battery bigger than recomended by gws how much does prop size factor in? is a little bigger better?