hey guys

i finally found a camera to takes these pics with..how long would this take to fix...?
thanks..




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thanks again
Felix

Throw it in the bin.

About as long as the UPS takes to bring you a new fuselage.....

Andy

This particular plane is cheaper to buy another of ,rather than fixing. They sell for around $99.00 so do yourself a favor ,save some precious flying time,and put together another one.

poor avistar! look what you did! do you feel bad,ashamed and guilty? YOU SHOULD! but seriously.. i think you should trash it.. avi's are such good fliers itll prolly never fly right[]

THAT'S NOTHIN'!!!!
Less time than it will take you to put the gear back in it. Seriously.
Get a bottle of thin CA, and some light fiberglass cloth, and get to it! 1 hour max. Then use it as your "loaner plane".

Jetts

plane is repairable but not worth it if you ask me.



good luck

Fix it. FIX IT. FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!

Jetts

The answer to your question: Assuming that you have all the tools(saws, sanders, drills. etc), all the supplies(master pattern, glue, balsa, light ply, covering. etc) is about 5 hours!! I have pulled a half dozen out of the trash and repaired them to new condition and sell them at the field on the weekends!
Of Course....the next questions is....what is your time worth? you can buy new for $90

I myself would try and fix the damage. If nothing else it would be a great learning experience for futher mishaps. You could buy a new one and fix the crashed one in your spare time. I would guess about 3 hours would do it.

thanks for the info..

i know i am just putting it aside for now..i might fix it when i get better at building planes..also..i want to experiment with aerial sp? photography..so just to mess aroung ill keep it for now and piece by piece work on it..
i ordered a GP easy sport to replace it...a little more advanced but not too advanced..

Felix

Just go get yourself the new World Models Mach 1 trainer for $69.99.
You can assemble this plane faster than you can fix that chunk 0 crap you got and you'll have a much much better plane.
(there only three parts to glue together)

I would say keep it for later. Get another trainer but dont toss this one yet.

After you get decent at flying, take this avistar and turn it into a canard. I did it with my trainer after I got bored of it and moved on to other aircraft. Just cut off the nose completely and make a new fire wall(because the CG needs to be ahead of the wing so getting the engine as far forward is good). Flip the whole fuse over and make it a low wing plane. Then take the rudder and mount it on the back and flip the elevators backward. Get all the right connections and you have yourself a canard.

I loved my Canard. I called it the Hammerhead because I had to put a hammerhead in the front to get the CG right but the plane was wonderful. Is was too bad that I planted it only after a few flights due to the hammerhead coming loose during flight. I lost control and it had a most spectacular crash.

In other words, keep that bashed kit to kit bash later...........a hammerhead? April fool!

Jetts

Toss it and start over.
Unless your good, it will look like Frankenstienplane...and you'll be the bride.

Toss it and you will lose the opportunity to experience another enjoyable aspect of our hobby, building! The skills you learn in doing this fairly simple repair will help you when (if) you decide to tackle more complex projects. Sure, a new fuse/plane is an inexpensive way to go, but if you build up your skills to where you can rebuild any plane, rebuilding someone else's trashed plane is even cheaper, and in my opinion more rewarding that just assembling an ARF.

If this is your only plane, for expediency replacing the plane is OK. Repair this one, and you will have a backup plane, just in case!

That's not building...that's RE-BUILDING...the absolute worst part of building.
If you want him to be a builder, tell him to start with a SIG Somethin' Extra...laser cut, nice easy builder that will build confidence and pride.
Shoot, repairing damage like that might spoil him on building forever.
And then he is left with a Frankenplane...a backup POS that will fly poorly (heavy) and be a source of embarrassment and humiliation.
OK, repair it and use it in Combat....or as a target drone.

You have more of you front end than I had, it still only took me about 5 hours to re-build, and I am a very slow builder.

I'd say go for it. I would prefer to enhance my re-building skills by practicing on a trainer instead of something nicer.

If you decide you don't want to finish it you can always buy another.

There's always something cool about a trainer that you've wrecked and repaired over and over. Also it makes a good test plane. Right now I have my twice repaired trainer loaded with an engine to break it in. I'd rather put it on a good plane when it's all dialed in. That damage doesn't look that bad anyway.

So htis one retired guy in my club calls my trainer "the quilt" because it's got all sorts of scrap covering on the repairs. Different colors all over the place.

Yes, it is- building a jigsaw puzzle. I'm curious as to why you'd call it a frankenplane? You could easily repair it, and done right, you could never tell. As for it being overweight, and a source of humiliation, I wouldn't concider an oz. or two of glue/epoxy to be overweight, and a re-built plane is definately not a source of embarassment, but rather a source of pride. "Looky here, I rebuilt it after I crashed it!" A source of embarassment would be: "Oh, er, uh, I couldn't fix it, 'cause I didn't know how/didn't want to let my credit card get cold, so I just copped out and bought another one to crash."
Fix it, you'll be glad you did.

Jetts

I accept your point of view, Jet.
It has been my experience that opinions vary.
My opinion was based on the fact that the plane is a Avistar, ARF.
Had it been a kit built Kadet LT-40 or Eagle 2 my advice would have been different.
My advice/opinion still stands.

Due to my use of better wood, when I rebuilt my Avistar wing after a midair, the new wing came out so much lighter that I had to add weight to kep it out of a continuous gradual right bank. (And yes I know I should have done the lateral balance, but I didn't, so sue me...)

Also, there is a guy on e-bay that sells Avistar parts fairly cheaply. Since your wing is not badly damaged, I'd say take the 2 hours and fix the wing. Then search e-bay for a guy esatkins or search for avistar. He sells wings and fuselages (sometimes with very minor damage, mostly on the wings) for reasonable prices. You can usually get the fuse for about $40 shipped and the wing for about $45 shipped. He sells 1 to 2 fuses a week and about the same # of wings. The fuses typically come with all the ARF hardware.

I agree that the fuse is repairable, but its going to be a pretty tedious job and will likely take 4 to 6 hours. Also, if you need a new motor mount or nose wheel blocks, then you are going to have to put $20 to $25 into it anyway with wood, parts, and new covering. For that I'd spend the extra $20 and get a new ARF fuse from e-bay. Then you don't have to worry, just install radio gear, engine and go.

Duke

If you want to rebuild it because you need something to fly, I would just trash it and buy another. HOWEVER, if you want to rebuild it to see if you can, then by all means, rebuild it. Best case scenario, you are able to rebuild it and you have a spare plane you can use to teach your friends to fly or whatever. Worst case scenario, you cant but at least you tried. Either way, you will learn quite a lot about how these things go together, get some practice at applying covering, shaping balsa, you name it.
You would be surprised at what is rebuildable.
This plane flew again:
This one still is:

This one's not....

Sure it is, jst make sure to add a label stating its only 5% recycled content...

Duke