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Old 09-03-2002, 01:15 PM
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I'm planning on getting a DP Ultimate but am unsure about the right engine to get for it. I have a YS120 that I was planning to use in it, but now I'm wondering If it has enough power. I want it to be able to power out of a low hover with authority. I would also like to have an engine in it that I don't have to cut out the cowling for, but that is not as important. I was thinking about upgrading the engine to a YS140L or a Moki 1.8. Any comments or suggestions?

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Default Engine choice for DP Ultimate?

OS 160 with a APC 17x8 narrow is sweet. Have not tried the 18x6 yet.
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Did you have to cut out the cowl much with that engine?

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Default Engine choice for DP Ultimate?

I have had my DP for three years now and I have powered it with both a YS 1.20 and 1.40L. I started out with my 1.20 and then replaced it with the 1.40 for the start of this season. It flies great with both engines, but I was surprised to learn that I actually like the 1.20 better. Long story short, mid season I pulled the 1.40 for some maintenance and re-installed the 1.20. Since I do not have any lead added for balance I think the lighter 1.20 gives me a better balance point and the power difference is NOT as great as I would have thought.

Now back to your question. I don't think either motor pulls out of a hover with authority. BUT with such a light wing loading you don't need quite as much power to avoid scaring everyone including yourself.

You really can't beat the sound of the YS four-strock and torque delivery combination with this awesome airplane. I also think the YS consistent power delivery makes it easier to perform 3D type flying. When you need just a few clicks of power it's nice to know that it will be delivered each time consistently.

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Default Engine choice for DP Ultimate?

Oh one last thing. I have a moki 1.8 and 2.1. The 1.80 would power out of a hover with authority...

My suggestion would be to go with the 1.20 which you already have and then once you get a feel for the plane and your flying style make a decision on some other power choice.

IMHO.

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Bottom of cowl can be a problem due to angle. I just cut my muffler tubes down short, mount cowl then add extensions made from tune pipe coupling material
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I'll be putting an MVVS 1.60 on mine with an 17x8 or 18x6 prop and a BCM pitts muffler. Should work well despite the slight weight penalty.
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I have a Saito 150 with a 16x8 APC prop. Lots of power. No added weight, but I am getting in a TNT aluminum landing gear to replace stock one. Hopefully, the balance won't change.
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Default YS-120

There are two flying at my field, baysidercclub.com both with YS-120 engines and both are loved by their pilots.
One guy "dumb thumbed" his in at 45 degrees WOT and bought another the next day. Engine survived the soft dirt.
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I'm usually pretty good at reading between the lines but you guys make it tough to do. I'm thinkin I might just go with the YS 120 that I already have despite what you guys say. I'm thinkin it might be a good engine after all.

I got it on eBay and its still "New in the Box" so, I could get my money back out of it to get something different if I wanted to. But seeing how you guys have such a soft spot for it, I might just have to rethink that. I just figured since they were discontinuing the YS 120 that it might not be the best engine for the job. You guys have me leaning toward using it again.

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Default Engine choice for DP Ultimate?

I didnt know YS is Discontinuing the 120?!? I think they may be working on a new 120. Even if they are discontinuing, I dont think you'll have any problems finding parts or info on it, Its such a popular engine!

I have a YS 120 on mine Love it! Sounds great!
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Default YS 120 DP Ultimate

I have had my ultimate for 2 years now and love it with the YS-120 it has good power here in Denver even when altitude density is at 8,000 ft. most of us here in Denver use Magnum Fuel #2 and can run a 17 x 8 APC @ 9200 - 9400 RPM

2 friends have YS 140's on there's and they have unlimited virtical

One vitue of the ultimate is that it does not even care if there is a 25 mph crosswind it will groove right in and land easily.

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I read that the YS 120 is being replaced by the YS 140 Sport. I think I read that the frame is the same size, It has more power and runs well on a wider range of fuels.

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Default Engine choice for DP Ultimate?

Saito 180, 20oz. tank / slimline Pitts w/smoke
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My DP Ult.Was a dream to fly on a YS 120 except it was weak pulling out of a hover.Installed a Saito 180 without any mods and wow! It flys just as great and has unlimited vertical.It does a great really flat inverted flatspin.The draw back is the 180 likes fuel.You will need at least a 20 oz. tank. Dave
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Default Engine choice for DP Ultimate?

1.80 saito. Unlimited everything. I like it
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Default How heavy

Could you guy's share with me what your planes "set up" weigh.
I have been thinking of an RCS 1.4 that will be OK if I can keep the set up at 10lbs RTF
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I don't have a scale accurate enough. I would guess that mine is over 10lbs. Probably doesn't help much but thought I would curtious reply.
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Default Engine choice for DP Ultimate?

There is a Ultimate at my LHS on consignment. I noticed it had the RCS 1.4 on it. The plane is in mint condition with all servos 605 hitecs, pull-pull rudder and elevator, duralites, and the RCS. Don't know how it flies but if I had the cash it would be mine.
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Seems like I remember someone posting here that their RCS 1.40-powered DP Ultimate was a little lacking in the thrust department while swinging an APC 16x8. It would be better with a 17x6 (more thrust) but it would be very slow.
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Default How do I say this

I like slow and thrusty.

Still, the decision would be based upon what I could get the flying weight to be.

Thank you for the feedback I am getting. I wish I could get some solid information on what peoples planes are weighing in at and with what equipment.

I am not stuck for an engine, I have several glow engines that are perfect for this from a YS 140L YS 120SC and a OS160 FX

But, I am leaning more and more to gas now that I have tried it.

BTW, I am curious, how much is the one on consignment ?
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I belive it was around $795 less tx and rx.
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Default Engine choice for DP Ultimate?

Guy here flys one with a Saito 180. No less than impressive.
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Default Balance w/ OS 1.60?

To anyone using the OS 1.60 in this plane, how did your balance come out. While I'm waiting for my servos to arrive, I thought I'd figure out where they should go. Will it balance with the servos in the stock location?

Man, I really hate to cut into that cowl. It's too pretty to mess up.
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Default Engine choice for DP Ultimate?

Then dont mess up

Just cut little by little until you have a nice opening around the engine and muffler. You can get it down so that there is only a small opening for the sylinder head/valve cover.

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