H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
12-01-2005, 11:18 AM
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
I agree with no working flaps needed on this plane. I just marked out the flap area with thin Ultracote stripes as shown on my previous post (number 255).
After a couple of weekends it's still flying great and landing like a trainer on the stock retracts.
[8D]
After a couple of weekends it's still flying great and landing like a trainer on the stock retracts.
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12-03-2005, 01:05 PM
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
This thread is excellent so far. I have the H9 PTS P51 trainer and have been drooling over the thought of a warbird with retracts. I know retracts is a sore subject here, but I am encouraged by those who stayed with stock retracts and have had no problems so far. I like how the Evo .61 exhaust is routed thru the cowl...very cool. I'm also very encouraged by the flight characteristics, as it is a pig to fly in G3, but I did get the feel of it.
Q: Does it tend to nose over on landings? how stable does it feel taxiing?
Q: Does it tend to nose over on landings? how stable does it feel taxiing?
12-03-2005, 09:42 PM
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
ORIGINAL: Nightmair
Q: Does it tend to nose over on landings? how stable does it feel taxiing?
Q: Does it tend to nose over on landings? how stable does it feel taxiing?
In the air it is no pig (G3 got it wrong) it is nimble, responsive and as smooth as my Extra-300. It flies well beyond 'scale' and looks great doing point rolls, etc. Going flying tomorrow if the winds will just slow down some.
I replaced my Futaba aileron servos with a pair of Hitec servos and now I don't have to reverse the aileron controls on the TX since the Hitec turn in the opposite direction from Futaba when used with a Futaba receiver. No biggie either way, just a habit of mine to set all my planes working in the same direction so an absent-minded old coot won't forget which plane is on.
12-04-2005, 11:08 AM
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
Got my P47 yesterday and am really pleased with the quality. Can't wait to get her built. 
Got a servo slow to slow the retracts down a bit as did not want a fast servo to yank the wheel into the bay.
Just started painting some of the area's I feel need a touch up, the wheel bays for example.
I've bought a SC91FS which should fly her nicely. [>:]
Keep this great thread going, its been more than helpful to me for me.
Gary
Got a servo slow to slow the retracts down a bit as did not want a fast servo to yank the wheel into the bay.
Just started painting some of the area's I feel need a touch up, the wheel bays for example.
I've bought a SC91FS which should fly her nicely. [>:]
Keep this great thread going, its been more than helpful to me for me.
Gary
12-04-2005, 02:04 PM
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
In the February issue of Model Airplane News they have a large article on the 1.50 Hanger 9 P-47 and also a article on the 60 size Hanger 9 P-47. They are flying the 1.50 with a 180 Saito and the 60 size with a 82 Saito. Both are excellent flyers according to the articles.
12-04-2005, 02:58 PM
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
Quint ....Thanks! You ESPECIALLY NAILED IT when you said the P-47 handles like a pig in G3. It was what made me decide against getting the P47 initially until I read all your REAL WORLD experiences. I am so much more encouraged now! It sounds like a GREAT flyer!
Today I put my wallet where my mouth is and ordered the p-47 from my LHS with an OS .61 LX. I'm going JR on servos and receivers so I can still use my cool JR 5 ch. trans. that came with my p-51 PTS. I'm going to stay with the stock retracts and see if they will do OK.
I gots me a winter project now!!!
GREAT THREAD..keep it going!
Today I put my wallet where my mouth is and ordered the p-47 from my LHS with an OS .61 LX. I'm going JR on servos and receivers so I can still use my cool JR 5 ch. trans. that came with my p-51 PTS. I'm going to stay with the stock retracts and see if they will do OK.
I gots me a winter project now!!!
GREAT THREAD..keep it going!
ORIGINAL: quint-rcu
No sign of nosing over on take off or landing at all. The H-9 P-51 had to be modified to prevent nose overs, but this P-47 is very stable on the ground. I have flown a student's P-51 PTS and find the P-47 as good to land and a bit more responsive at low speeds. It is in no way a trainer due to the larger engine, greater speed, etc., but it sure lands sweet.
In the air it is no pig (G3 got it wrong) it is nimble, responsive and as smooth as my Extra-300. It flies well beyond 'scale' and looks great doing point rolls, etc. Going flying tomorrow if the winds will just slow down some. I replaced my Futaba aileron servos with a pair of Hitec servos and now I don't have to reverse the aileron controls on the TX since the Hitec turn in the opposite direction from Futaba when used with a Futaba receiver. No biggie either way, just a habit of mine to set all my planes working in the same direction so an absent-minded old coot won't forget which plane is on.
ORIGINAL: Nightmair
Q: Does it tend to nose over on landings? how stable does it feel taxiing?
Q: Does it tend to nose over on landings? how stable does it feel taxiing?
In the air it is no pig (G3 got it wrong) it is nimble, responsive and as smooth as my Extra-300. It flies well beyond 'scale' and looks great doing point rolls, etc. Going flying tomorrow if the winds will just slow down some.
I replaced my Futaba aileron servos with a pair of Hitec servos and now I don't have to reverse the aileron controls on the TX since the Hitec turn in the opposite direction from Futaba when used with a Futaba receiver. No biggie either way, just a habit of mine to set all my planes working in the same direction so an absent-minded old coot won't forget which plane is on.
12-05-2005, 04:24 PM
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I posted a video clip of my P-47 on Speeders Model Shop's website: [link=http://www.SpeedersOnline.com]SpeedersOnline.com[/link] . The clip is on the main page, just below the P-47 photo in the review I wrote.
John
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12-06-2005, 11:36 AM
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Hey! I found a photo of the REAL plane!
BTW: for the G3 simulator P47, I increased the pitch of the prop which moved the plane better. The problem with the P47 in the simulator is that it is underpowered.
BTW: for the G3 simulator P47, I increased the pitch of the prop which moved the plane better. The problem with the P47 in the simulator is that it is underpowered.
12-06-2005, 11:46 AM
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
ORIGINAL: Old Navy Flyer
I posted a video clip of my P-47 on Speeders Model Shop's website: [link=http://www.SpeedersOnline.com]SpeedersOnline.com[/link] . The clip is on the main page, just below the P-47 photo in the review I wrote.
John
I posted a video clip of my P-47 on Speeders Model Shop's website: [link=http://www.SpeedersOnline.com]SpeedersOnline.com[/link] . The clip is on the main page, just below the P-47 photo in the review I wrote.
John
Nice review! Very encouraging for flight, and some nice building tips. I'm going with the OS .61 FX for economy and keeping the stock retracts..mostly because I'm new to building and want to Keep it simple.
EDIT: I just watched the video you have and the sound of that 4 stroke is amazing. hmmmm.......I goota think here now...
12-07-2005, 01:03 PM
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ORIGINAL: Nightmair
Nice review! Very encouraging for flight, and some nice building tips.
Nice review! Very encouraging for flight, and some nice building tips.
ORIGINAL: Nightmair
EDIT: I just watched the video you have and the sound of that 4 stroke is amazing. hmmmm.......I goota think here now...
EDIT: I just watched the video you have and the sound of that 4 stroke is amazing. hmmmm.......I goota think here now...
John
12-07-2005, 06:31 PM
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Well I have my P-47 in hand! And my OS 61 with a Pitts muffler. I'm going all JR so I should be able to digitally control the servo rate for gear if it gets too snappy. I think that's a feature...
The plane is beautiful and it IS built very clean!
So does the pilot come with it or not? Is it supposed to?
The plane is beautiful and it IS built very clean!
So does the pilot come with it or not? Is it supposed to?
12-07-2005, 06:36 PM
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So does the pilot come with it or not? Is it supposed to?
So does the pilot come with it or not? Is it supposed to?
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
ORIGINAL: quint-rcu
In the air it is no pig (G3 got it wrong) it is nimble, responsive and as smooth as my Extra-300. It flies well beyond 'scale' and looks great doing point rolls, etc. Going flying tomorrow if the winds will just slow down some.
In the air it is no pig (G3 got it wrong) it is nimble, responsive and as smooth as my Extra-300. It flies well beyond 'scale' and looks great doing point rolls, etc. Going flying tomorrow if the winds will just slow down some.
The Hangar 9 kit has a very light wing loading for a warbird and that makes a huge difference. Based on my experience with a H9 P-51 I wouldn't hesitate to recommend one of their warbird models for a third plane. If you have a Mustang PTS and you can fly it comfortably with all of the drag devices removed then you should be able to handle the P-47.
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12-08-2005, 09:56 AM
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
As far as flying the P47 in G3, I fixed it a bit by increasing the prop pitch to 22. Increasing prop size doesn't help too much...don't increase the prop size more than 2 inches. Then when you fly, push your throttle trim all the way up....Then it flies much better, as the stock P47 in G3 is way underpowered. You'll notice a HUGE difference and it flies nice now.
I got the unpainted pilot bust from H9 in 1/7 scale....I'll see how it fits when it gets here....1/7 might be a bit too large but it should be OK.
I got the unpainted pilot bust from H9 in 1/7 scale....I'll see how it fits when it gets here....1/7 might be a bit too large but it should be OK.
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
Done the wheel wells by continuing the invasion stripes across the plastic edges of the well, and painted the inside of the wells pale green. Got some Robart covers for the piano wire under carridge, these look very good if you are staying with stock retracts.
I'll post some pics later, looks good, even if I say so myself........[8D]
Weekend weather not looking too flyable so may get some of the assembly done, I'm looking at fitting snakes to elevator and closed loop for rudder, servos under the wing, hate having the servo's showing at the rear end.
I'll post some pics later, looks good, even if I say so myself........[8D]
Weekend weather not looking too flyable so may get some of the assembly done, I'm looking at fitting snakes to elevator and closed loop for rudder, servos under the wing, hate having the servo's showing at the rear end.
12-09-2005, 09:23 AM
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Hi I’m Pete – my screen name here is G-Pete.
I read some of you guys changing the retracts out, my question is: what are you planning to do with the old ones? I have a P51 without retracts and I like to change this. Those war birds look waaaaay better with landing gear in.
So, if you have no use for your old ones – I like to buy them from you.
Thank you in advance.
Happy landings[sm=thumbup.gif]
Pete
I read some of you guys changing the retracts out, my question is: what are you planning to do with the old ones? I have a P51 without retracts and I like to change this. Those war birds look waaaaay better with landing gear in.
So, if you have no use for your old ones – I like to buy them from you.
Thank you in advance.
Happy landings[sm=thumbup.gif]
Pete
12-09-2005, 01:42 PM
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I have the OS .61 fx and was told the plane might be underpowered a bit..so I'm returning it and getting the OS .91. At least I'll have some throttle when I need it. and I get to spin a 14" prop! The 11" prop off a .61 looks so puny.
Opinions on if a .61 would feel underpowered?
Opinions on if a .61 would feel underpowered?
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
ORIGINAL: Gary From England
Done the wheel wells by continuing the invasion stripes across the plastic edges of the well, and painted the inside of the wells pale green. Got some Robart covers for the piano wire under carridge, these look very good if you are staying with stock retracts.
I'll post some pics later, looks good, even if I say so myself........[8D]
Weekend weather not looking too flyable so may get some of the assembly done, I'm looking at fitting snakes to elevator and closed loop for rudder, servos under the wing, hate having the servo's showing at the rear end.
Done the wheel wells by continuing the invasion stripes across the plastic edges of the well, and painted the inside of the wells pale green. Got some Robart covers for the piano wire under carridge, these look very good if you are staying with stock retracts.
I'll post some pics later, looks good, even if I say so myself........[8D]
Weekend weather not looking too flyable so may get some of the assembly done, I'm looking at fitting snakes to elevator and closed loop for rudder, servos under the wing, hate having the servo's showing at the rear end.
12-09-2005, 01:51 PM
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
ORIGINAL: Old Navy Flyer
DiscoWings,
I'm using an OS-91 FS. The cylinder head comes to within about 1/8" of the cowl, so I'm going try it without cutting an opening for the head. I cut away all the areas between the dummy radial cylinders but left the lower supercharger area covered. I intend to make an oversize exhaust opening on the bottom of the cowl for airflow.
John
DiscoWings,
I'm using an OS-91 FS. The cylinder head comes to within about 1/8" of the cowl, so I'm going try it without cutting an opening for the head. I cut away all the areas between the dummy radial cylinders but left the lower supercharger area covered. I intend to make an oversize exhaust opening on the bottom of the cowl for airflow.
John
Stupid newbie question: If you don't have to cut the cowl opening for the cyl. head, how do you hook up the glow starter?
12-09-2005, 01:55 PM
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RE: H9 60 Size P-47 Thunderbolt-Build & Flying
Here are a couple of pics of my U/C.
I'm pleased with the outcome as they only cost me £7.75.
Still retract fully into wheel bays. and spring still does its job.
No mods are necessary unless you want to fit the bay doors. Doors would not clse against the wing unless you lower the legs deeper into the wing. I'm not to fussy about the doors to be honest as I have read else where that the airflow can pull on the doors putting strain on the retract servo, so will be leaving the doors off I think........
I'm pleased with the outcome as they only cost me £7.75.
Still retract fully into wheel bays. and spring still does its job.
No mods are necessary unless you want to fit the bay doors. Doors would not clse against the wing unless you lower the legs deeper into the wing. I'm not to fussy about the doors to be honest as I have read else where that the airflow can pull on the doors putting strain on the retract servo, so will be leaving the doors off I think........