I buy it, and i powered with ys63 the question is whot type of servo? i wanna modify with two servo on the elevator...
Suggestion?
thanks carletto...
ps sorry for the english

Carletto,

I have just set mine up. It will be flying this weekend, weather permitting. I also have the YS 63 in it, set it at 45 degrees so the muffler tracks down the exhaust slot in the fuz. . I am using Hitec HS 525mg for ailerons and HS 645mg for rudder. For elevators I have used a JR 591 for elevator. I am running the radio at 6V. I kept the Y push rod, but have modified it so the two halves of the elevator are working together. I have also joined the elevator halves with piano wire. If you want to put separate servos in for the elevators then you will need to re engineer the tail area, as it built of stick. The inside of the structure will need to be lined with ply. The nose of the Cap is short and you may then get balancing problems. Mine as set up need the battery put hard against the front of the servo tray to get the mid range CoG. Two micros or minis in the tail will need the battery shifting up front, problem is how far?

Good luck

Kris

Carletto,

Test flow the cap over the weekend and overall impressions are very good. Surprisingly good in fact. I ran an apc 13 x 6 and 12 x 7. The conclusion is that the high speed of the 12 x 7 doesn’t do much for the flying of the plane. I think I will keep the 13 x 6. The vertical was unlimited and thrust very good. I had rates set to the recommended, and high rates 45 degrees, up and down, on the elevator. Double for ailerons and max deflection on the rudder. The plane will snap out of loops on very small elevator deflections!! The high rate was set-up for spins 3d etc. The flat spins were very flat, almost no decent with the power on, Blenders, were very good. Snaps very snappy. Knife-edge was doable, but the conditions were windy so no real conclusions about that, but it did climb on knife-edge. The rudder is very powerful and slows the knife-edge down very quickly if you use too much. I didn’t try a knife-edge loop. The Y push rod is holding up well and the plane doesn’t skew out of loops. I haven’t weighed it yet but I would guess about, or just over 5lbs.

So in answer to your question I think that servos in the tail for the elevators are over kill.

Good luck

Kris

I have had one of these Kyosho Cap 232 's for a couple of years. Its O K. Its not the most honest plane in the world, but we have reached an understanding. It is a little heavy, but not bad. I have an OS Max 46 swinging an APC 11X5. I tried many props before stumbling on to this one. This prop made a huge difference in the performance and over all personality of the plane. The climb performance seemed to almost double........I fly a little differently then most people and my requirements are therefore slightly different. I fly LOW. I fly at an idle some 80% of the time. The throttle is opened in short bursts on the "up line". Its the "Bob Hoover", conservation of momentum thing. I saw it years ago being flown by a gentleman name Cid Norris. I found it hypnotizing and have tried to emulate my mentor from that time on. Recoveries are chest high, runway heading. And that is where this plane is weak. Pull to hard and she will snap, particularly at low speeds. I countered this tendency by slightly reflexing the wing with up aileron, nose weight, and carefully adjusting the travel of the elevator. However, the Cap will still snap roll with an elevator input that I will call, "two notches below panic".
The plane presents itself well in the air and is easy to see. I did have some trouble with the blue portion ot the covering coming up along the leading edge of the wing. 2" clear packing tape! The cowl has developed several cracks that I can't seem to stop from growing. I have a fiberglass cowl in the box waiting to go on. A good amount of the very small decals, (stars) seem to be disappearing. Otherwise the plane is maintenance free. Oh, I did remove the wheel pants and install larger wheels for our field is relatively ruff.
One attribute that the Cap isn't famous for, its great for touch and goes.

A standard servo is more than enough torque but if you want something faster go for a digital in the elevator. If you're wanting to remove slop from the 'factory' setup you can do a couple things. Best is to install a belcrank that has one input and two outputs so everything is synchronized in the tail. I used independant pushrod tubes and epoxied them together at one end near the servo which does the same but not as neat of a setup as the belcranks. The only advantage I can think of on the dual elevator servos is being able to mix elevator with flaps (like elevons) but you'll add weight and I'm not sure there is an advantage to that setup anyways. Stick with one and you'll be fine.

- Joe

hey kris have a photo of servo installation in the fuse?
the tank is on the cg?
Grazie mille

scuse me kris
for the rudder original pushrod or push/pull?

Carletto

The rudder is on push/pull, we call it closed loop here in UK. The elevator is on the standard Y push rod, but through away the heat shrink and use cord tightly rapped and soaked in thin CA, to hold the push rods on. The tank has been moved back as far as I can get it. The back of it is against the servo tray.

Kris

If I get time I will take some pictures over the weekend..