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Old 12-29-2005 | 05:30 PM
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HI Got a 72" Dymond Ford Flivver and I need alieron servos. No directions but Dymond says use d200 servos. And a review, said the manual said, glue them in. So what wing servos did you use and how did you mount them ? I have a Hitec 225 but is too big. I don't want to hack up wing. The D200 are private brand mini servos I guess.
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I used standard Hitec HS425BB servos. I didn't feel comfortable with anything smaller. 20 minutes with a dremel and the openings in the wing were big enough. I attached the servos to 1/8" plywood plates with hardwood blocks. They are not glued in. With a .91 four stroke for power I wanted the extra security of a standard size servo and the modification is a simple one. Let me know if I can provide additional info. It's a fun little airplane and you won't see many like it at your local field.
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Old 12-29-2005 | 05:51 PM
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Well GEE I take it you cut out the bottom of the shallow serv tray and mounted the servos deep and upright in the wings...
Old 12-29-2005 | 05:57 PM
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There is a chart with the dymond servo specs and dimensions here:
http://www.rc-dymond.com/Radio_Electronics/servo.htm

They sell the D200s for $20 each. The D200 size is very similar to the HS-81 or HS-85
Old 12-29-2005 | 06:12 PM
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Yes I,ve checked those servos out . But I also read a post from a guy putting in the dymond recommended servos and they stripped out in no time. The 225BB have 54 oz torque. They just don't fit the big shallow pocket for the servo..
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Well GEE I take it you cut out the bottom of the shallow serv tray and mounted the servos deep and upright in the wings...
Yes, I cut out the bottom of the tray but mounted the servos laying on their sides.

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Old 12-29-2005 | 06:34 PM
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Well GEE Thanks for the quick reply and I like your servo hatch cover. I just didn't want to cut into wing and hit a main spar or weaken the wing. You would think to make such an odd ball recess there was a structural reason. Thanks again I will be open to other ideas too...
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Wow, that flivver is a cool plane! [sm=thumbup.gif]
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Mine is two years old and has many, many flights on it and it's been thoroughly wrung out I'm confident this mod. causes no ill effects. Let me know what you do and how you like the airplane once you get a chance to fly it. What engine are you going to use?
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Well I have real ford model T's ,so this is special to me. I hope it doesn't fly like a slowpoke. Engines Let see You can help
TH 75
OS 61 SF
Saito 65
Magnum 91 FS I was leaning toward saito 65 or OS 61 F Both a little heavy motors ,since It comes out tail heavy from what I've read... I know my SLOWPOKE took about 6 OZ up front.
Old 12-30-2005 | 07:03 AM
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Well KMOT DYMOND still sells them for 159.95 and 189.95 last I checked. Mine is red and silver. I think the blue and silver looks better. A plus for you is DYMOND is in California like you , but it could be hundreds of miles from you........
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Well I have real ford model T's ,so this is special to me. I hope it doesn't fly like a slowpoke. Engines Let see You can help
TH 75
OS 61 SF
Saito 65
Magnum 91 FS I was leaning toward saito 65 or OS 61 F Both a little heavy motors ,since It comes out tail heavy from what I've read... I know my SLOWPOKE took about 6 OZ up front.
I went with the Magnum .91 FS and it balanced perfectly without having to add any ballast. It definitely does NOT fly like a slowpoke with this setup. It's fast and extremely agile. The Saito .65 would be enough engine to fly it but I'd want more power. I was really wanting to put in a Saito three cylinder radial as that would look much more scale but I just couldn't part with all those $$$. It would also take a fair amount of modification to the nose to get it in there but it'd be a sweet setup. The other mod that this airplane could really use would be to make the gear look a little more scale. A set of Williams Bros. Golden Age wheels would help a lot. The wire gear included with the kit is marginal and really ought to be thicker. Adding the bracing as on the full scale would help. Here's a picture of the one in the Henry Ford museum.
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Old 12-30-2005 | 08:15 AM
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My slowpoke has a 50 SK and is not slooooow. But it is such a twitchy flyer. Does not like wind. The recommend Flivver 2 stroke is 61 so the OS SF long stroke should be plenty power. Your 91 is not over power?
Old 12-30-2005 | 08:29 AM
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Overpowered is such a subjective term The .91 is plenty and I rarely fly at full throttle with it but it's nice to have the extra horses when I want them. It'll pull itself through outside loops as big as you want them and vertical is pretty much unlimited. I've never tried to hover it or anything like that. I just don't like adding ballast to an airplane in any form other than engine.

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