Most common crash reason?
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From: DES RUISSEAUXQu颥c, CANADA
I am curious about that. When you crashed your ARF plane it
was due to wich of these ones:
1-Low battery?
2-J-connector disconnected in flight?? Dam....
3-Ran out of fuel and failed to land it?
4-Wing loss? Holy ****.....
5-Stalling at very low altitude?
6-Forgot to bolt something?
7-Lost engine in flight?
Whatever. Just post here your last crash autopsy.
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was due to wich of these ones:
1-Low battery?
2-J-connector disconnected in flight?? Dam....
3-Ran out of fuel and failed to land it?
4-Wing loss? Holy ****.....
5-Stalling at very low altitude?
6-Forgot to bolt something?
7-Lost engine in flight?
Whatever. Just post here your last crash autopsy.
Thanks
Serge
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My last crash with my Great Planes 300 extra was due to pilot error during a high speed low pass....result was a wing kit and cowling.
The one before that with the exact same kind of plane was some mysterious radio malfunction. I know, they all blame that. This was during its maiden flight. I had just taken off and was doing a very gentle right turn when it rolled all by itself and came back to level flight for a couple seconds. Then it did it again and came back to level flight again. The last time it rolled it went nose down and augured into oblivion. On the way home from the field I stopped at the hobby shop and got another arf of the same plane. It really flew nice for that quarter circle around the field!
Jeff
The one before that with the exact same kind of plane was some mysterious radio malfunction. I know, they all blame that. This was during its maiden flight. I had just taken off and was doing a very gentle right turn when it rolled all by itself and came back to level flight for a couple seconds. Then it did it again and came back to level flight again. The last time it rolled it went nose down and augured into oblivion. On the way home from the field I stopped at the hobby shop and got another arf of the same plane. It really flew nice for that quarter circle around the field!
Jeff
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From: DES RUISSEAUXQu颥c, CANADA
Originally posted by Jeff396
My last crash with my Great Planes 300 extra was due to pilot error during a high speed low pass....result was a wing kit and cowling.
The one before that with the exact same kind of plane was some mysterious radio malfunction. I know, they all blame that. This was during its maiden flight. I had just taken off and was doing a very gentle right turn when it rolled all by itself and came back to level flight for a couple seconds. Then it did it again and came back to level flight again. The last time it rolled it went nose down and augured into oblivion. On the way home from the field I stopped at the hobby shop and got another arf of the same plane. It really flew nice for that quarter circle around the field!
Jeff
My last crash with my Great Planes 300 extra was due to pilot error during a high speed low pass....result was a wing kit and cowling.
The one before that with the exact same kind of plane was some mysterious radio malfunction. I know, they all blame that. This was during its maiden flight. I had just taken off and was doing a very gentle right turn when it rolled all by itself and came back to level flight for a couple seconds. Then it did it again and came back to level flight again. The last time it rolled it went nose down and augured into oblivion. On the way home from the field I stopped at the hobby shop and got another arf of the same plane. It really flew nice for that quarter circle around the field!
Jeff
I hate mysterious malfunction scecially when you have a $2000 bucks investment tyed with two little stick....Well, that's the world
of RC...
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Serge--you forgot one--PILOT STUPIDITY--not error--happened to me today. Great Planes Pitts is history--yes friends, gather around for a moment of morning. Then PLEASE KICK THE PILOT IN THE BUTT!!!! I had this plane built by my buddy/builder who did a great job. I was continually taking stuff to his house--HEY--HALF OF ALL MY RC STUFF IS AT HIS HOUSE! Anywas, I lost battery power today on my second flight. Upon further examination the battery was low. It was always stuffed in the back for CG purposes and I never noticed. When I upwrapped it, I discovered it was a 6V Pack--I always thought it was a 4.8 and had been flying all Summer/Fall with a half charged pack. How do you spell STUPID---????
Hey AeroBob--suddenly the GP Patty Wagstaff IS my favorite plane
Hey AeroBob--suddenly the GP Patty Wagstaff IS my favorite plane
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Originally posted by AJF--2
Serge--you forgot one--PILOT STUPIDITY--not error--happened to me today. Great Planes Pitts is history--yes friends, gather around for a moment of morning. Then PLEASE KICK THE PILOT IN THE BUTT!!!! I had this plane built by my buddy/builder who did a great job. I was continually taking stuff to his house--HEY--HALF OF ALL MY RC STUFF IS AT HIS HOUSE! Anywas, I lost battery power today on my second flight. Upon further examination the battery was low. It was always stuffed in the back for CG purposes and I never noticed. When I upwrapped it, I discovered it was a 6V Pack--I always thought it was a 4.8 and had been flying all Summer/Fall with a half charged pack. How do you spell STUPID---????
Hey AeroBob--suddenly the GP Patty Wagstaff IS my favorite plane
Serge--you forgot one--PILOT STUPIDITY--not error--happened to me today. Great Planes Pitts is history--yes friends, gather around for a moment of morning. Then PLEASE KICK THE PILOT IN THE BUTT!!!! I had this plane built by my buddy/builder who did a great job. I was continually taking stuff to his house--HEY--HALF OF ALL MY RC STUFF IS AT HIS HOUSE! Anywas, I lost battery power today on my second flight. Upon further examination the battery was low. It was always stuffed in the back for CG purposes and I never noticed. When I upwrapped it, I discovered it was a 6V Pack--I always thought it was a 4.8 and had been flying all Summer/Fall with a half charged pack. How do you spell STUPID---????
Hey AeroBob--suddenly the GP Patty Wagstaff IS my favorite plane
AJF,
I am terribly sorry for the loss man... ****tttt...Sometimes its just these little stupid detail who put a plane into scrap. I have the G"P wagstaff and its a wonderfull plane. I just wait for my Taurus 52 to come in. Hang On AJF and good luck!
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Pilot error covers a multitude of sins of ommission. Poor or non-existant preflight, battery not properly charged, servo used and abused for to many airplanes over to many years...and the list goes on and on. I have been guility of all of these and more, but, I had , over this past summer, two radio glitches that I could never explain. One with a Futaba 8UAFS and the other with a JR 10X. I could never duplicate either of the glitches but they happened nevertheless. One was a glider at extreme altitude and the other was a power plane on takeoff. Pilot error? Not this time...
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From: DES RUISSEAUXQu颥c, CANADA
Originally posted by sloper10
Pilot error covers a multitude of sins of ommission. Poor or non-existant preflight, battery not properly charged, servo used and abused for to many airplanes over to many years...and the list goes on and on. I have been guility of all of these and more, but, I had , over this past summer, two radio glitches that I could never explain. One with a Futaba 8UAFS and the other with a JR 10X. I could never duplicate either of the glitches but they happened nevertheless. One was a glider at extreme altitude and the other was a power plane on takeoff. Pilot error? Not this time...
Pilot error covers a multitude of sins of ommission. Poor or non-existant preflight, battery not properly charged, servo used and abused for to many airplanes over to many years...and the list goes on and on. I have been guility of all of these and more, but, I had , over this past summer, two radio glitches that I could never explain. One with a Futaba 8UAFS and the other with a JR 10X. I could never duplicate either of the glitches but they happened nevertheless. One was a glider at extreme altitude and the other was a power plane on takeoff. Pilot error? Not this time...
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Pilot error covers a lot of the suggestions you had. For example, low batteries. Who's responsibility is that? Low fuel, shouldn't you know how long you can fly on X amount of fuel?
Just my thoughts...........
Just my thoughts...........
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It's been so long since I crashed anything! I think my last deadly crash was a CAP 19X (Did they have a 190 something?) back in '90. It might have been disorientation, (pilot error) or a radio glitch. I seem to recall losing radio contact, but it might have been me flat spinning it into terra firma.
I'm with those that say "Pilot Error", which would also encompass reversed controls, loose parts, etc. "Pilots" pre- and post-flight their aircraft... Right?
It happens, though. I was teaching my daughter to fly a GP Cub on a box several months ago, and guess what... I had the ailerons going the wrong way on the buddy box! I kept telling her "left on the box!", and she kept going right with the plane! No disaster, but an amusing lesson in failure to pre-flight.
I'm with those that say "Pilot Error", which would also encompass reversed controls, loose parts, etc. "Pilots" pre- and post-flight their aircraft... Right?
It happens, though. I was teaching my daughter to fly a GP Cub on a box several months ago, and guess what... I had the ailerons going the wrong way on the buddy box! I kept telling her "left on the box!", and she kept going right with the plane! No disaster, but an amusing lesson in failure to pre-flight.
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My RCM trainer met it's fate when on final approach I didn't do any
of that throttle management. Just left the throttle where it was,
(low idle), and watched as it floated in then just stopped in mid
air! Nosed in from about 15 feet up and hit hard. That OS .40FSR
took the hit well and is still running today. The plane was a total
loss. I don't feel so bad now, because at our Jumbo Fly-In this
past summer a highly experienced pilot did the same thing with
a beautiful, huge Mr. Mulligan. His looked even worse than mine!
Jesse N.
of that throttle management. Just left the throttle where it was,
(low idle), and watched as it floated in then just stopped in mid
air! Nosed in from about 15 feet up and hit hard. That OS .40FSR
took the hit well and is still running today. The plane was a total
loss. I don't feel so bad now, because at our Jumbo Fly-In this
past summer a highly experienced pilot did the same thing with
a beautiful, huge Mr. Mulligan. His looked even worse than mine!
Jesse N.
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Originally posted by P-51B
The ground reached up and grabbed it, really, it was the ground, no pilot error involved...IT WAS THE GROUND...REALLY
The ground reached up and grabbed it, really, it was the ground, no pilot error involved...IT WAS THE GROUND...REALLY
I believe you!!!
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You guys have it all wrong.............
It's.................................THEM!!!!!!!!! !!
Aliens have a bad habit of playing with R/C planes..........
THEY...................love to watch 'em CRASH!!!!!!
Seriously though.........I think the most prevalent reasons for crashes...
Either disorientation.....and DUMB THUMBS!!!!!!!!!!
OR
Equipment failure..............
My $.02375 worth.............
It's.................................THEM!!!!!!!!! !!
Aliens have a bad habit of playing with R/C planes..........
THEY...................love to watch 'em CRASH!!!!!!
Seriously though.........I think the most prevalent reasons for crashes...
Either disorientation.....and DUMB THUMBS!!!!!!!!!!
OR
Equipment failure..............
My $.02375 worth.............
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Looking at all of these reasons and knowing that a crash is inevitable......unless you don't put 'em up, I'm having a real tough time making the jump to the next level of aircraft from my .40 size planes. It just makes me cringe investing a thousand plus into a plane that will eventually become splinters. No nerve!
Jeff
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Gentlemen, (AJF-2, also!), in my 30 years of playing with these things, here's what I know for CERTAIN....*knock on wood*....EVERY crash I have EVER had was -- ultimately -- *MY* error. Either errors in piloting judgement/skill/capability, or "oversights"...leaving crap unplugged, not tying other stuff together, forgetting to fuel, forgettting to charge, forgetting to turn OFF after that last flight a couple hours ago, forgetting to tighten that elevator servo horn screw....yad adadadada....
AJF-2 - You just experienced one of the reasons I use only 4 cell Rx packs on all airplanes. I don't want to have to worry about which is which, which one gets what charge....etc....
I am *really*, really, sorry to hear that you did the Pitts....major bummer, and private pity.....
Rebound - and build another!!!
AJF-2 - You just experienced one of the reasons I use only 4 cell Rx packs on all airplanes. I don't want to have to worry about which is which, which one gets what charge....etc....
I am *really*, really, sorry to hear that you did the Pitts....major bummer, and private pity.....
Rebound - and build another!!!
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Thou speaketh the truth.
If it weren't for dumb thumbs, dorking it in, brain f##ts, and all of
the other things we do, this would be a cheaper hobby. But then
we would have such a large stable of never-crashed planes sitting
around that we'd have to build that detached hangar over on the
back 40! Hmmm, maybe that's a good goal to achieve!
Jesse N.
If it weren't for dumb thumbs, dorking it in, brain f##ts, and all of
the other things we do, this would be a cheaper hobby. But then
we would have such a large stable of never-crashed planes sitting
around that we'd have to build that detached hangar over on the
back 40! Hmmm, maybe that's a good goal to achieve!
Jesse N.
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We are all human, all prone to make mistakes and if the fields at which I fly are any indication, not getting any younger. I know that sooner or later, for one reason or another (as in "I can fly under that ribbon inverted") I am going to lose my planes because it's not much fun to just circle the field. Therefore; Rule No. One...Never put in the air more than you can afford to lose, then go have a good time.
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Give me a reason, and I bet I've done it!! lately I've had pretty good luck... (Knock on some balsa!) But I agree with Sloper10 to never put more in the air then you want to loose, Been there done that also... Too much pucker factor makes for dumb mistakes also!!



