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Old 07-19-2006 | 01:58 PM
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Hi guys I was wondering if any of you knew of a hi wing 50cc gas powered arf I have a Edge 540 and a Ultimate both from Wild hare Both very nice planes I am looking for a sunday flyer with scale looks that will fly well with a heavyer 50 or 60 sized motor most of the planes i see in this class are low wing or extream aerobatic that are more edge of your seat type planes. I was hopping to find a bigger slower type aircraft in the 4lb engine size. the only thing i can see is a modeltech 135" cub and that im almost considerin. I have a smaller one and a 109" one that needs a lot of work. both are a lot of fun but not something i can fly in the wind. we have a permawind sittuation here 10-15mph as a rule. so im looking for something in a high wing or biplane that has a little more wing to it. That will still handle the turbulant weather we have.

My edge actually fills the bill but I have one so a cap, extra, Yak, Su31 are not what im looking for. the Ultmate is a great 3-D plane But I want something that floats a bit more and dont make me feel like im holding the tail of a wild cat. A 50 cc decathalon would be an awsome addition to my fleet.

Thank you all for your input.
Old 07-19-2006 | 07:58 PM
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Cub? I have seen a couple of DP Super Cubs with 50cc in them
Old 07-20-2006 | 02:46 PM
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I have a 109" balsa usa cub that i wouldnt even attempt to fly with a 50cc my great planes 81" with a os 70 will knife edge from horizon to horizon I can imagine what the DP 88" would be like The modeltech 135" might be a cantidate at this point but to be honest I was hopping to find a decathlon even a bigger biplane than I have something more scale and less 3-D but the DP sure is nice. I would like to put a twin in it.
Old 07-20-2006 | 03:52 PM
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I think Kangke has a couple.
http://www.kangkeusa.com/

Wolrd Models maybe.
Old 07-20-2006 | 03:58 PM
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I am on the market for a simular plane. However, I was planning on powering with a 26cc. The SIG Rascal seems like a great plane, and would probably give you what you want if you were willing to go with a smaller engine.

For the 40cc, another option might be the Kangke 1/4 Giant Monocoupe. Ive heard of guys putting at 40cc in those with good results.
Old 07-20-2006 | 05:54 PM
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Why not build a WW1 Scale plane? Good Slow flyers with great WOW apeal.
Old 07-20-2006 | 07:02 PM
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Im thinking Ken has a good plan. I wish I had the space to build as it is when i take on a Arf I have to clear a spot for me to sleep lol with all the planes in the shop building is just not feasable I might have to take over my daughters room when she goes to collage god willing. Can you imaqine the size a 50cc jenny would be?

I guess if i want a large scale aircraft I will have to build one not enough people want planes like this to warrent a ARF I did stop by Dave Patrics web site and can see one of his PA-18's in my future with a 4 stroke twin in it man they sure are good looking planes.

Kangke 1/4 Giant Monocoupe Ive seen up close thats a pretty plane as well but again not for the power plant i want to use It is looking like im going to have to stay with sport aerobatic type planes for that engine class. I will keep looking.
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I have a 109" balsa usa cub that i wouldnt even attempt to fly with a 50cc my great planes 81" with a os 70 will knife edge from horizon to horizon I can imagine what the DP 88" would be like The modeltech 135" might be a cantidate at this point but to be honest I was hopping to find a decathlon even a bigger biplane than I have something more scale and less 3-D but the DP sure is nice. I would like to put a twin in it.

Seriously. Couple guys here.One has a DA and the other is some thing[sm=bananahead.gif] They don't run them for speed of course but they are on their.
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check out the kangke rearwin speedster. I have heard of several people using the ZDZ40 in them, so I am sure that a 50cc would also work just fine.
Old 07-22-2006 | 12:06 AM
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I have been looking seriously at the dave patrick PA-18 that is one nice looking plane However a 4 stroke twin would have to go into such a nice plane.

I also looked at the Rearwin Speedster and I cant seem to get past how uggly that plane is. I think I have to give up on this hunt I dont want to over power a plane I have a Evolution 58 that is going to need a home soon It has out lived its welcome in the airframe it is in now.
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I just finished the Kange Waco with a 45cc Homelite conversion engine. It's a good mix between a scale sport flyer and an aerobatic bird. The homelite is only a couple ounces heavier, if any at all, from the DA 50 (I have one in a EF Yak). You may also want to look at Hobby Lobby. They have a new 105" hi wing plane. It's nice looking, similar to a cessna. I think its designed for a 30cc engine, but with power management should be OK. It would give you plenty of power if you ever wanted to add floats. Happy hunting.
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Check out the SIG Sundancer. Not scale, but could be a home built. One in the club with a 50cc gasser and it flys a BIG envelope... Slow and gentle, but will do reserved aerobatics. I fly a Speedster with a Fuji 23 ( a 50 might be a bit too big) and is is a gentle flyer with no bad habits. Is acutally better looking than the scale plane as it is a bit longer and thinner. I had only one problem with kit, Formed windshield was 1/4 inch wider than fuse, no way to modify, so ended up making sheet windshield. Looks ok form 50 feet away. Cliff
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Check out the SIG Sundancer. Not scale, but could be a home built. One in the club with a 50cc gasser and it flys a BIG envelope... Slow and gentle, but will do reserved aerobatics. I fly a Speedster with a Fuji 23 ( a 50 might be a bit too big) and is is a gentle flyer with no bad habits. Is acutally better looking than the scale plane as it is a bit longer and thinner. I had only one problem with kit, Formed windshield was 1/4 inch wider than fuse, no way to modify, so ended up making sheet windshield. Looks ok form 50 feet away. Cliff
Old 07-23-2006 | 04:00 AM
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this is new one worth looking at http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXMKB5&P=0
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If the Giant Aeromaster flies anything like it's little brothrrs it is a winner. Built a .60 size Aeromaster II from kit plans and it is great. Fly with a TT .60 Pro and it does all I want and can be a slow flyer. Using only two ailerons on mine, but another is using 4 ailerons and it is quite a bit more agile, still gentle when need be. Don't have room for the "biggie" but if my flying doesn't get better soon, I may have........Cliff

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