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Old 05-03-2008 | 11:02 AM
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It's snowing again! [:@] Kerwin50..........you want pictures of snow..............what the heck for?
Old 05-03-2008 | 11:25 AM
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Wahhh!
lol, this winter I'm going to hook my Ultra Stick up with some skis and go snow bombing. Just have to keep the truck running so I don't freeze my butt off. LOL

-Eric
Old 05-03-2008 | 12:55 PM
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No DT I'm not a ham operator, but I use to get the radio amateur handbook until cut out all the projects. I do have a 1st class FCC lic with radar endorsement.
While in college my main focus of study was in RF. And after school I went to work for motorola and then I went to work for allied signal working on VOR's DME's and ILS.
I always enjoy looking a pictures of differnt places so yeah I would like to see some pictures of may snow. and if you have any video's of you flying off the snow that would be kool also.
Is your T_ _ _T set up with ski's.
Adam what set-up do you have.
I had a speed controller powering my nippy black that was doing about the same thing and it was the speed controller. Is there any way you can look at your batt voltage at the batt and then where it goes into the speed controller. Do you have a digtal volt meter with some sharp tips on the leads. You may want to take the motor and controller out of the plane and mount it on a stand of some sort. and yes try a few combos of props. Like I said eariler you can pm me and I'll give you my ph #. I have done tons of troubleshootiing over the phone
Old 05-03-2008 | 01:29 PM
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Here ya go kerwin50..............I hope you gain some pleasure from it, cause I sure hate the stuff!!!![:@]
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Old 05-03-2008 | 02:07 PM
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2 flights toady with 12X11 on OS .61. Thought it would hall it doesnt. pretty sure its cavitating. So back to the old 13X5 at least it would scream through the air with that prop. Prop came loose onthe first flight.[:@] and engine quit witch i'm glade it did. Brought her in floating alway good to have a little wind. Second flight flew pretty good just not as fast full throttle. But it got real windy started gusting pretty good so i packed up and left.

Hope you guys get some good weather eventually so you can go fly your Birds..

Old 05-03-2008 | 09:11 PM
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I'm a Ham operator, just throw some pineapples on that baby and watch me operate

the Bipe flights with the OS 70 and my bonehead of a short field take off not being successful LOL

Bipe take off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RQkxPxg-CE

Bipe landing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gybVilmb_ps


WOW WOW WOW the hype was right, we flew in the rain this morning, we all sat in my van with 3 people and 3 planes waiting inbetween showers and a mild wind to gusty at times but no more talking,,, heres a treat for you all, the Pics of the T_ _ _ T with the 61 FX and the link to its maiden flight. Enjoy,,, I did

The T_ _ _ T video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJaDErQUP0s

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Old 05-03-2008 | 09:33 PM
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Cool Waldo..nice videos. I see you like speed, but slow that T***t down....it likes to hover. That 61 is a lot of motor for that plane, but it works well. Was your first landing.....an attempt or a plan to touch and go? Mine doesn't like to land.....it just wants to fly/float. Hope you had some more fun with it that day.

Two side notes......
1. Don't try the Twipe at that speed.....fly minimum speed....then put on hard helmet and let her have it. Try to hover first. AND VIDEO

2. Find a club member that has access to a roller (used for paving)...roll the field with that. It will help keep your runway smooth. Luckily our club had one donated.

Cool video....Hope you enjoyed the T***T with the 61.
Old 05-04-2008 | 01:43 AM
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Waldo Waldo Waldo great video's. I love that 4 stroke on the bipe and if ya had only alittle more runway.
So how do you like that OS 61 vs the OS 4 stroke. does it seem like the 4 stroke liked to hover better than the 2 stroke.
mine seem to want to drop off to the side and I don't have enough prop blast to hold it and if I add more throttle she climbs out of it.
Also mine drops the nose in a flat spin and it seemed like yours did to .
can you take a pic of the wingtip and aileron. when mine is level she comes in real nose high.
What prop are you using. and where did you have her cg'ed at
DT thanks for the pictures was that downtown calumet. what was that other pic of.
I've traveled from 1 coast to the other and all over down south but never been up north.
Old 05-04-2008 | 04:32 AM
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I managed a fly yesterday between showers and after seeing Waldo's video I think it might be my last with the 70FS on board. I tried a little right thrust as suggested in a forum somewhere to improve hovering. Didn't like it one bit. Obviously you have to trim out the thrust for straight flight but of course the thrust has a different effect at different throttle settings. It also makes for interesting landings when the plane wants to fly off to the left all the time. Has anyone else tried this? The 61FX goes in tomorrow. (with standard thrust)
Old 05-04-2008 | 08:23 AM
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DownT I sure hope all that snow melts fast for you, man,,, I wouldn't be able to take that at all, I love snow and the season but 4 months of it is plenty long enough.

Binky no the 1st landing was an attempt but I knew I didn't have her idled down yet and the 61 only has 3 tanks of gas through her right now, so I think she is still being broken in, at least I hope so, she has some speed, but I thought it would be a little faster, I wasn't really trying to hover for too long as when we filmed the camera has about 4 minutes of a whole flight, then you have to start splicing or separating the video so it will post it all on utube, So I just wanted to get in a few tricks and the landing so it would all be on 1 video.

I'll have try and drop the Pixels down or something to see if I can get longer videos, but I think the quality would [:'(]

The bipe landing and take off was a cross runway takeoff usually she needs about half the regular runway to take off but I thought with the 70 there instead of the 46LA she would do it no problem,,, I was wrong lol

Kerwin I loved my 70 4 stroke on the T_ _ _ T, But I need a little practice with the 61 it was only my first flight with her and I noticed air bubbles in the line so I wasn't taking too many chances as it needs to stay together for Twipe maiden, after that, then I can go sick[>:] I also think I still had my 13 x 6 prop on there from the mustang flight, I changed 3 motors last week on all my planes and I think i forgot to put on the 13x4 I had for this occasion. mine also likes to drop the nose in a flat spin but I haven't balanced it yet, After I put the 61 in there I was just too excited to go and fly it, as a matter of fact I couldn't even get the motor started for about 4 or 5 minutes,, then I thought,,, hmmmmm,,,,maybe I should attach the fuel line,,,[:-] fired right up.

Yakko I liked my 70 with a 13x4 or 14x4 for the hovering it worked fine for me I just couldn't get real low, which is why I'm giving the 61 a try now.
Old 05-04-2008 | 09:19 AM
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Well boys its maiden day for the big cap and the last day i am going to be the owner of her, I am trading it for a 05 Suzuki Marauder 800 v twin cruiser. I know I may be crazy but this bike is super clean and has a 3800 blue book. Well I am heading right now to the filed for some flying and oh yeah did I mention I am getting a t-t 60 in the deal too? LOL I make great deals with my flying buds. I will hit back here for some flight reports this evening.
Old 05-04-2008 | 10:48 AM
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Waldo........thanks for the pics and video. I hate to tell you this, but the 13x6 is way too much prop for the T_ _ _ T/.61 combo. If I can get away with it, I will always use the 13x5 or 13x4 (depending on air density) and as I don't want to hype any one product over another, the MAS props out performs them all! When you make the switch and get rid of the bubbles in the fuel line........you'll get the full measure of the what all the hooplah is about, cause I'm just not hearing the excitement in your voice man! I'll go so far as to say I'll purchase that engine from you (providing there isn't anything wrong with it) and put my reputation of ill repute on the line as well!!! There.......... you have it in black and white.

kerwin50.......nope not downtown Calumet, but very close.........the football field and bleachers. The other pic was of a goldfish pond in my front yard...........kids gave it to me for Father's Day.........a few years back. (When the fishing gets bad at the lake or in the streams, you can always find me wetting a line as I kick back in chase yard lounge.......looking at this wreck of a late-victorian........thinking of what excuses I can come up this year for not painting the house.) You have to understand that we're in a derelict copper-mining town (deep shafts)............Ask AdamG about it..........he's been here............witnessed the gloom for himself...........if I remember correctly...........it rained the whole time he was here. lol

twisted...........what else to have to trade............ any 'ol Harleys sitting around?

Yakko.....make sure you mount the engine as far back as possible while giving clearance to the fuel line/s. You might even have to trim a little balsa to make way for the carb if its mounted on the side and not top of your engine.


MAS 13x4!!!!!!!!!!! MAS 13x5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wildcat 10-15% works great!!!!!!!!!

Man........i'm just full of unsolicited advice.......ain't I? [:'(] sorry bout that............side effect of cabin fever.
Old 05-04-2008 | 12:21 PM
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I finally got to fly the T%%%t today......what a gorgeous morning. Kind of breezy when I got there, but you could see the tail end of the front moving by. After a little grass gutting, the front had moved on and the wind died down.

I think I need to change props myself, flying a 13x4 now, gonna try a 14x4 next time. The OS55 is just turning to many RPMs...I need to slow the motor down a bit. Although it is rarely running above 1/2 throttle, I would prefer for it to turn a bit slower. Any thoughts on going with the 14?
Old 05-04-2008 | 01:17 PM
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How many rpms is it turning?
Old 05-04-2008 | 03:05 PM
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I didn't put a tach on it.....so I don't know for sure an exact speed. But just listening to it by ear, it is higher than I would like it to be........if that makes sense. Like I said, I am rarely above half throttle, and even then it is screaming. I did I few high speed fly-bys today.....and I was waiting for something to break inside the motor. I'm thinking that by swinging the bigger prop, the rpms at half throttle should be lower than with the smaller prop at same throttler setting.
Old 05-04-2008 | 03:50 PM
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Without a tach I wouldn't assume too much. A 14x4 might be a wee bit too much prop too. Have you done a pinch test to make certain you're not running lean? A few thoughts for your consideration.
Old 05-04-2008 | 05:12 PM
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Yes...pinch test is fine....holding plane upright is fine.... Lean it is not.....I burned a motor up that way. If it is not on the money, it is a bit rich. Motor is almost cool enough to touch after landing.
Old 05-04-2008 | 10:52 PM
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Well guys I wanted to get an early start on flying today, but of course you can all unserstand the HONEY DO's Finaly about 7 PM a friend of mine came over with his PTS mustang.
The wind was SW and somtimes more wsw at 10 to 15 mph. I decided to do a down wind take off and she was up in about 50 ft. I made several attempts at hovering and I was able to hold a couple for 10 to 15 seconds but would fall out of them I then did a hand ful of touch and goes with a couple of hammerheads and landed her.
Checking the elev d/r's I add a little throw to the low d/r and some more expo on my high rates and thats when I noticed just how slow my servo's were moving.
So after that on myb next flight I praticed my inverted low passes. That was a real blast, after I had been doing them for a while I was getting dangerous with the tail only ft off the ground.
I am running a 13/4 prop but it's an apc. It seem as though my engine has a flat spot on the tunning to the high speed neddle vavle There is almost a 1/4 of a turn where the engine drops in rpm when the nose is raised. I riched it just a tad to say the least.
All in all it was pretty good day even though I only got in 2 flights
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I love when this thread gets busy

DownT, Its tough for me to put excitement in my text, sorry,, MAYBE I'LL HAVE TO CAPITALIZE more often for effect[)] LOL, And man I just got this motor and you already want to take it away from me I'll try and do better I promise,,[sm=red_smile.gif]

I just plain and simply forgot to replace the 13x6 with the 13x4 before my flight, I had a couple laying around and I even bought a new one just in case the others had dings in them. but with it raining the whole time we were there we couldn't really work on the planes in between flights as we could barely move at all in my van with all of us and the planes. not that we couldn't, we just chose not to. any movement was at the risk of cracking a plane, and they were all my planes,, lol,, so just sit still was the order..

The MAS is better then the APC I take it? I don't know if I've ever had the oportunity to try an MAS, but I'll make my way to the LHS soon for more fuel and I'll pick up a couple. I haven't really ever looked into which prop was a better prop, if its the size I need and laying there, It goes on a plane until it becomes 2 or more props I've always preferred the wooden props over the plastic, but because of our bumpy uneven runway we are always cracking the wooden ones.

Twisted,, God bless you man,, I don't know If I could trade any of my planes for anything, they have all been Hand built, except the T_ _ _ T, well I guess that has been hand built also.. LOL but it does sound like a great deal so good luck to you on that.

Binky I was swinging a 14x4 on my 4 stroke but it might be a little big on the 55, I don't really know though as I don't own one yet,,, very soon lol very soon.. and be prepared for about 1/2 inch clearance from the prop to the ground with the stock tires,, it worked fine just need to keep the tail near the ground all the time. And yes I LOVE SPEED the closer to the ground and the faster the plane just makes me feel alive. I'll have to get a good camera so I can show ye'all just how much fun I really have, when you only get to film about 4 minutes of flight you have to wonder what went on for the other 11- 15 minutes not that I would post the entire flight, but at least I would have some tricks to crop and post.

Kerwin Awesome !! Glad to hear about the inverted low passes,, it shows confidence![>:] Were they High speed ?? LOL I love that.
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When I was flying this spring my engine was working great, I have tried re-tuning ect.., but no luck as soon as I go vertical or make a sharp turn the engine dies. I've tried the usual, replaced all the fuel lines, took the gas tank out, replaced those lines but no luck. I have an evolution 46.NT with the limiters removed using a number OS 8, and tried an A3 glow plug, with 15/20% fuel. I tried 10/20% also but no change. I'm not new to tuning engines, but this engine is driving me nuts. I have also removed the baffle in the muffler, because with it in it did not want to stay running. Unfortunately on it's 5th flight yesterday the engine died once again and the dead stick didn't go so well, but she broke in the usual spot, easy to fix.

Thanks in advance,
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Old 05-05-2008 | 03:41 PM
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kassun........if it's in your budget..........chuck that engine and try an O.S. .61 FX. If not, scrap aluminum is .74 cents a pound.......... Pardon me.......I couldn't resist........I had so much fun ribbing Jack211 when he bought an Evo engine and had a similar experience....it all came flooding back. Really, I don't mean to get your dander up.......it's just one of the things.
Old 05-05-2008 | 03:46 PM
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no offense taken, i bought the PNP, so i didn't have a choice in engines. I was looking at : http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXFV75&P=0 Super tiger G-61, my brother in law has one and it's been the most reliable engine i have come across, other than his old OS.25.

-Kassun
Old 05-05-2008 | 03:51 PM
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I have 5 Evolution Engines, 1 - .455, 2 - .46s & 2 - .61s. They all run PERFECT. If your going to CHUCK it, CHUCK it in a box & mail it to me.
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The thing here is these engines are all good in their own right. The problem is complaints come from people who try and use them in a manner that will not produce the results they want. Meaning they are using the wrong engine for what they want to achieve. Then they come out and say the engine is junk. It's not junk.
Old 05-05-2008 | 04:27 PM
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If its not OS then.......
Old 05-05-2008 | 04:45 PM
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Kassun,
The OS has better power to weight ratio. Here is a link to another option. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXDXM3&P=0 A kid down at the field runs one of these in a 40 size Extra and it screams. He doesn't have an electric starter so its all chicken stick all day and he doesn't have any problems. He's been running it at least a year now and it hasn't blown up yet! For $79 I'm thinking about getting one myself!!


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