Hangar 9 1/4 Scale Piper Cub ARF???
08-08-2014, 10:38 AM
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HELI-MECH I am back from my float fly holiday and have thought over what I would like to get for my wings . I would like $200 . For that I would give you three wings , two left and one right complete with ailerons and flaps also the struts and attachments plus the wing tube . I added up the replacement parts cost and it was over $560 . You would also have to pay for shipping and insurance if you wish . I am sorry I seem to be unable to PM you .. If you wish you could E mail me your Phone number and I would call you . I received your E mail but when I try to return I am unable for some reason .. I think shipping is going to be to expensive to make it worthwhile ..
08-08-2014, 10:51 AM
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HELI-MECH I am back from my float fly holiday and have thought over what I would like to get for my wings . I would like $200 . For that I would give you three wings , two left and one right complete with ailerons and flaps also the struts and attachments plus the wing tube . I added up the replacement parts cost and it was over $560 . You would also have to pay for shipping and insurance if you wish . I am sorry I seem to be unable to PM you .. If you wish you could E mail me your Phone number and I would call you . I received your E mail but when I try to return I am unable for some reason .. I think shipping is going to be to expensive to make it worthwhile ..
08-13-2014, 07:39 AM
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Hey there, thanks, work in progress, maybe get up flying this week... I used krylon fusion flat black paint, stuff works great on plastic and is very durable.
08-13-2014, 10:46 AM
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floats pulleys
was hoping to get this plane on its floats this year but may not get a chance to do so, but i started getting the floats ready, i have re-glassed the bottom of the hangar 9 floats to make them stronger and built some pulleys for the cable water rudder system.
08-14-2014, 01:07 PM
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Fellow cub lovers- I just found this thread, having enjoyed one of these planes for a few years. Mine was purchased used at the WRAM show. It was powered by a Zenoah G-26, magneto engine, and was a delight to fly. Unfortunately, it was too much fun, and got caught in what must have been the slow speed tip stall described on Page 23 of this forum. Straight in from not very high. Totaled the front end of the fuselage, back to about the wings. Wings, LG, tail feathers are all OK. The broken pieces are too far gone to be able to jigsaw puzzle them back together, so my choices seem to be to buy a new fuse, cowl, etc from HH,,or to either find a used one for sale somewhere nearby (NAshville, not Poughkeepsie), or someone who has a usable fuselage and is missing the stuff I have. Can anyone help??.
08-14-2014, 02:59 PM
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Fellow cub lovers- I just found this thread, having enjoyed one of these planes for a few years. Mine was purchased used at the WRAM show. It was powered by a Zenoah G-26, magneto engine, and was a delight to fly. Unfortunately, it was too much fun, and got caught in what must have been the slow speed tip stall described on Page 23 of this forum. Straight in from not very high. Totaled the front end of the fuselage, back to about the wings. Wings, LG, tail feathers are all OK. The broken pieces are too far gone to be able to jigsaw puzzle them back together, so my choices seem to be to buy a new fuse, cowl, etc from HH,,or to either find a used one for sale somewhere nearby (NAshville, not Poughkeepsie), or someone who has a usable fuselage and is missing the stuff I have. Can anyone help??.
08-14-2014, 03:18 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion, Heli- Mech. In some ways, we're i good shape- need minor repairs on one wing, need to straighten one wing strut, and obviously, need to replace the wing tube. But- my front end and floor were smashed into smaller pieces than yours, and my cowl was pretty beat up. Unfortunately the pieces are gone. Are your templates available?And did they include the floor pieces?
08-14-2014, 03:24 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion, Heli- Mech. In some ways, we're i good shape- need minor repairs on one wing, need to straighten one wing strut, and obviously, need to replace the wing tube. But- my front end and floor were smashed into smaller pieces than yours, and my cowl was pretty beat up. Unfortunately the pieces are gone. Are your templates available?And did they include the floor pieces?
08-18-2014, 08:48 PM
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Nice H-M... I wish we had a lake or body of water to fly off of... closest is the water district dam, and no one's allowed access... looks like fun though... that VW 40cc twin will be just right for float flying.
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08-19-2014, 04:22 AM
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Living on the lake is definitely a bonus, i feel more comfortable on floats than wheels 
I guess thats why i'm going to re-maiden it on floats this time. I had it bouncing around in the water last night, gets up on step nice and quick with the vvrc 40 twin. Came pretty close to taking it for a circuit but decided i'm going to wait for my new wings to arrive.
I guess thats why i'm going to re-maiden it on floats this time. I had it bouncing around in the water last night, gets up on step nice and quick with the vvrc 40 twin. Came pretty close to taking it for a circuit but decided i'm going to wait for my new wings to arrive.
08-22-2014, 05:08 PM
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08-28-2014, 01:41 PM
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It's great to see your cub on her feet again!
Well, I had MY turn in the" O S---" ! barrel. My cub refused to come out of that proverbial spin and ended up in the pond on the other side of the field with the wingtip about three from the bank. Somehow it was upright and almost flat with the nose about half submerged. The prop was a four inch stub, the cowl was destroyed, the door post was broken and there was a slight bend in the wing tube. No damage to the wings or rest of the fuselage, tail or landing gear. There wasn't even any torn covering and my windshield was still in perfectly good shape !!
In my shop, I pulled the engine, removed the carb, plug and muffler, cleaned them and saturated the engine with WD-40 until it ran out clear Used the heat gun to help dry out the nose. Ordered another cowl and wing tube. Recut and painted the cowl. Everything went back together fine. I also changed out the RX and ignition switches. Ran the engine to make sure it was OK.
Now for the good part. Why did it not recover ? I have done the maneuver with this plane before and the recovery was prompt. Maybe this time all the flight attitudes and speed were
just right to induce a no recovery scenario. The only other thing possible was that the left elevator servo went "south" on me for some unknown reason. The servo for that side was locked in the elevator up position. I use only Hitec HS 645 servos for all my flight controls. However when I built the cub I did notice that the left elevator would droop after sitting for a while. So I went back to the beginning of this forum and started reading. Seems others have had problems with spin recovery. The subject of washout entered the picture. Several methods were discussed and all made sense. For me, the simplest solution was posted by LIFER in post # 577. And that was to reflex the ailerons up 3/32" from natural. I reset my ailerons to these specs and went flying. With two mistakes high I came back on power and eased back on elevator. It stalled straight with no tendency to fall off on either wing. Spins are a no pucker factor event and with a little power, she just mushed along with no signs of a stall or spin. My cub now is even more of a joy to fly.
I guess my bottom line is that there will always be a learning factor. Thanks again for a great forum.
It's great to see your cub on her feet again!
Well, I had MY turn in the" O S---" ! barrel. My cub refused to come out of that proverbial spin and ended up in the pond on the other side of the field with the wingtip about three from the bank. Somehow it was upright and almost flat with the nose about half submerged. The prop was a four inch stub, the cowl was destroyed, the door post was broken and there was a slight bend in the wing tube. No damage to the wings or rest of the fuselage, tail or landing gear. There wasn't even any torn covering and my windshield was still in perfectly good shape !!
In my shop, I pulled the engine, removed the carb, plug and muffler, cleaned them and saturated the engine with WD-40 until it ran out clear Used the heat gun to help dry out the nose. Ordered another cowl and wing tube. Recut and painted the cowl. Everything went back together fine. I also changed out the RX and ignition switches. Ran the engine to make sure it was OK.
Now for the good part. Why did it not recover ? I have done the maneuver with this plane before and the recovery was prompt. Maybe this time all the flight attitudes and speed were
just right to induce a no recovery scenario. The only other thing possible was that the left elevator servo went "south" on me for some unknown reason. The servo for that side was locked in the elevator up position. I use only Hitec HS 645 servos for all my flight controls. However when I built the cub I did notice that the left elevator would droop after sitting for a while. So I went back to the beginning of this forum and started reading. Seems others have had problems with spin recovery. The subject of washout entered the picture. Several methods were discussed and all made sense. For me, the simplest solution was posted by LIFER in post # 577. And that was to reflex the ailerons up 3/32" from natural. I reset my ailerons to these specs and went flying. With two mistakes high I came back on power and eased back on elevator. It stalled straight with no tendency to fall off on either wing. Spins are a no pucker factor event and with a little power, she just mushed along with no signs of a stall or spin. My cub now is even more of a joy to fly.
I guess my bottom line is that there will always be a learning factor. Thanks again for a great forum.
08-28-2014, 05:09 PM
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It's great to see your cub on her feet again!
Well, I had MY turn in the" O S---" ! barrel. My cub refused to come out of that proverbial spin and ended up in the pond on the other side of the field with the wingtip about three from the bank. Somehow it was upright and almost flat with the nose about half submerged. The prop was a four inch stub, the cowl was destroyed, the door post was broken and there was a slight bend in the wing tube. No damage to the wings or rest of the fuselage, tail or landing gear. There wasn't even any torn covering and my windshield was still in perfectly good shape !!
In my shop, I pulled the engine, removed the carb, plug and muffler, cleaned them and saturated the engine with WD-40 until it ran out clear Used the heat gun to help dry out the nose. Ordered another cowl and wing tube. Recut and painted the cowl. Everything went back together fine. I also changed out the RX and ignition switches. Ran the engine to make sure it was OK.
Now for the good part. Why did it not recover ? I have done the maneuver with this plane before and the recovery was prompt. Maybe this time all the flight attitudes and speed were
just right to induce a no recovery scenario. The only other thing possible was that the left elevator servo went "south" on me for some unknown reason. The servo for that side was locked in the elevator up position. I use only Hitec HS 645 servos for all my flight controls. However when I built the cub I did notice that the left elevator would droop after sitting for a while. So I went back to the beginning of this forum and started reading. Seems others have had problems with spin recovery. The subject of washout entered the picture. Several methods were discussed and all made sense. For me, the simplest solution was posted by LIFER in post # 577. And that was to reflex the ailerons up 3/32" from natural. I reset my ailerons to these specs and went flying. With two mistakes high I came back on power and eased back on elevator. It stalled straight with no tendency to fall off on either wing. Spins are a no pucker factor event and with a little power, she just mushed along with no signs of a stall or spin. My cub now is even more of a joy to fly.
I guess my bottom line is that there will always be a learning factor. Thanks again for a great forum.
It's great to see your cub on her feet again!
Well, I had MY turn in the" O S---" ! barrel. My cub refused to come out of that proverbial spin and ended up in the pond on the other side of the field with the wingtip about three from the bank. Somehow it was upright and almost flat with the nose about half submerged. The prop was a four inch stub, the cowl was destroyed, the door post was broken and there was a slight bend in the wing tube. No damage to the wings or rest of the fuselage, tail or landing gear. There wasn't even any torn covering and my windshield was still in perfectly good shape !!
In my shop, I pulled the engine, removed the carb, plug and muffler, cleaned them and saturated the engine with WD-40 until it ran out clear Used the heat gun to help dry out the nose. Ordered another cowl and wing tube. Recut and painted the cowl. Everything went back together fine. I also changed out the RX and ignition switches. Ran the engine to make sure it was OK.
Now for the good part. Why did it not recover ? I have done the maneuver with this plane before and the recovery was prompt. Maybe this time all the flight attitudes and speed were
just right to induce a no recovery scenario. The only other thing possible was that the left elevator servo went "south" on me for some unknown reason. The servo for that side was locked in the elevator up position. I use only Hitec HS 645 servos for all my flight controls. However when I built the cub I did notice that the left elevator would droop after sitting for a while. So I went back to the beginning of this forum and started reading. Seems others have had problems with spin recovery. The subject of washout entered the picture. Several methods were discussed and all made sense. For me, the simplest solution was posted by LIFER in post # 577. And that was to reflex the ailerons up 3/32" from natural. I reset my ailerons to these specs and went flying. With two mistakes high I came back on power and eased back on elevator. It stalled straight with no tendency to fall off on either wing. Spins are a no pucker factor event and with a little power, she just mushed along with no signs of a stall or spin. My cub now is even more of a joy to fly.
I guess my bottom line is that there will always be a learning factor. Thanks again for a great forum.
08-29-2014, 06:17 AM
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HELI-MECH,flycatch,Lifer
As the saying goes---I have a free airplane.
What I did was center aileron trim on the transmitter, manually adjust the ailerons to center them. From there, adjust each aileron up 3/32" from the natural stick position. I also added a bit of differential so that the aileron up travel is a little more than down travel. This helps smooth the turns with less lift on the outside wing panel.
By the way, I did change out the bad servo, Thinking about calling Hitec on it since it was a new servo.
As the saying goes---I have a free airplane.
What I did was center aileron trim on the transmitter, manually adjust the ailerons to center them. From there, adjust each aileron up 3/32" from the natural stick position. I also added a bit of differential so that the aileron up travel is a little more than down travel. This helps smooth the turns with less lift on the outside wing panel.
By the way, I did change out the bad servo, Thinking about calling Hitec on it since it was a new servo.
08-29-2014, 10:41 AM
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HELI-MECH,flycatch,Lifer
As the saying goes---I have a free airplane.
What I did was center aileron trim on the transmitter, manually adjust the ailerons to center them. From there, adjust each aileron up 3/32" from the natural stick position. I also added a bit of differential so that the aileron up travel is a little more than down travel. This helps smooth the turns with less lift on the outside wing panel.
By the way, I did change out the bad servo, Thinking about calling Hitec on it since it was a new servo.
As the saying goes---I have a free airplane.
What I did was center aileron trim on the transmitter, manually adjust the ailerons to center them. From there, adjust each aileron up 3/32" from the natural stick position. I also added a bit of differential so that the aileron up travel is a little more than down travel. This helps smooth the turns with less lift on the outside wing panel.
By the way, I did change out the bad servo, Thinking about calling Hitec on it since it was a new servo.
08-29-2014, 03:29 PM
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I think I confused you a bit. The sub trim will only adjust both ailerons at the same time. One goes up while the other goes down to make small corrections during flight. I have an old Futaba 9c computer transmitter that I converted to 2.4. With it I can adjust each individual servo. Because I have flaps and floats; I am using an auxiliary channel for the second aileron. Therefore each can be adjusted independently.
Another and easier way would be to set your ailerons to neutral with the transmitter and physically make the 3/32" adjustment by turning the clevis out at the control horn on the aileron itself. This effectively moves the aileron upward. Leave the transmitter and receiver on to hold the ailerons centered while you make the adjustments. Hope this helps a little.
Jim
I think I confused you a bit. The sub trim will only adjust both ailerons at the same time. One goes up while the other goes down to make small corrections during flight. I have an old Futaba 9c computer transmitter that I converted to 2.4. With it I can adjust each individual servo. Because I have flaps and floats; I am using an auxiliary channel for the second aileron. Therefore each can be adjusted independently.
Another and easier way would be to set your ailerons to neutral with the transmitter and physically make the 3/32" adjustment by turning the clevis out at the control horn on the aileron itself. This effectively moves the aileron upward. Leave the transmitter and receiver on to hold the ailerons centered while you make the adjustments. Hope this helps a little.
Jim
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I think I confused you a bit. The sub trim will only adjust both ailerons at the same time. One goes up while the other goes down to make small corrections during flight. I have an old Futaba 9c computer transmitter that I converted to 2.4. With it I can adjust each individual servo. Because I have flaps and floats; I am using an auxiliary channel for the second aileron. Therefore each can be adjusted independently.
Another and easier way would be to set your ailerons to neutral with the transmitter and physically make the 3/32" adjustment by turning the clevis out at the control horn on the aileron itself. This effectively moves the aileron upward. Leave the transmitter and receiver on to hold the ailerons centered while you make the adjustments. Hope this helps a little.
Jim
I think I confused you a bit. The sub trim will only adjust both ailerons at the same time. One goes up while the other goes down to make small corrections during flight. I have an old Futaba 9c computer transmitter that I converted to 2.4. With it I can adjust each individual servo. Because I have flaps and floats; I am using an auxiliary channel for the second aileron. Therefore each can be adjusted independently.
Another and easier way would be to set your ailerons to neutral with the transmitter and physically make the 3/32" adjustment by turning the clevis out at the control horn on the aileron itself. This effectively moves the aileron upward. Leave the transmitter and receiver on to hold the ailerons centered while you make the adjustments. Hope this helps a little.
Jim
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