Iam readin the posts on here about H9, iam gettin nervous.
Iam just jumpin back into the hobbie after a 2 years off.
Been thinkin about a H9 Ultrastick or Advance 40.
i have afreind flyin the 40 and he loves it , i saw it fly a bunch
really smooth but now this quality thing is makein me nervous.
Any bad reports on the H9 advance 40 ?

I can only speak from my personal experience. I got a UltraStick .40 for Christmas. I have yet to fly it but the quality of it is as good as my Goldberg Tiger 2. In fact, there are things on the US40 I like better. I did follow some suggestions from posts on this forum and others when putting it together but everything was straight and true. I guess the test will be when the weather breaks up here in the cold tundra of Michigan.

Just think of it this way. Out of all the thousands of kits being shipped and built there are going to be some lemons. Just like if you were buying a new car. You can buy them all day but sooner or later your going to get a lemon.

I have a ultra stick 40 and 120 and both of them are fantastic. As the previous post said i would take some advice for a few changes as your putting together the plane but overall my experience with all Hanger 9 products have been outstanding.

Just keep your fingers crossed and hope you are not the one that might get the lemon. I wouldn't loose any sleep over it though, you will be happy....

Just my .02 cents

Hangar 9 (aka Horizon Hobbies) has a definite "class system" in place for their ARFs. The top of the line is very nice indeed- genuine heat-shrink covering, fiberglass cowls and wheel pants, somewhat better hardware, and more attention to detail in general.

The lower-tier models are just that; not so well constructed (they don't bother to hide the hot glue joints), covered with that sticky-back shelf paper, and totally useless Pacific Rim hardware. IOW, just like 90% of the other ARFs available.

I've had two of the top-end offerings (CAP 232 and Easy Fly 40) and one of the lower tier (Super Stick 40). I just started building the CAP, and am very pleased ans impressed with the overall quality. Same on the Easy Fly 40; it was an excellent trainer that I bought on a whim because the dealer, who specialized in helicopters, had gotten it when he thought he wanted to get into airplanes- so I got it for a song.

The Super Stick was very disappointing. The covering just plain sucked. I ripped it all off and re-did it in U-Cote and replaced all the junk hardware from my stash box; and while all moments, balances, etc., seemed to be spot on, the airplane flew like crap. It "squatted", like it was tail heavy. I tried everything except changing the stab incidence; all to no avail.

A newbie I'm working with has the Advance 40. Overall nice airplane, well worth the money IMO. It is heavy (at least this one is), the aileron set-up is rather bizarre (but it works; you have to fiddle with it to get a decent roll rate, though), and some of the trim stripes have come off. But it is basically a low-wing trainer; very smooth, predictable, and forgiving. With a competent instructor and buddy box, one could learn to fly on this thing easily.

Overall, bhouck, I would say that H9 ARFs are like any other; there are some good ones, and not-so-good ones. But I've never seen a BAD one, meaning one that couldn't be made to fly. There are some of those out there too.

Good luck, and welcome back to the hobby.

Steve

No sweat bro. The advance 40 is a great plane. Just make sure to epoxy the tail feathers on instead of just bolting like the instructions say and seal the hinges on the ailerons and elevators. This plane is a little heavy for a .40. I would say a .46 BB is the minimum motor I would recommend. My motor of preference for this plane is the Webra 50 GT ( not a beginners motor and a tad bit expensive).

THanks

a lot of guys have them and like them at our club but most had to rework something to get good aileron throw, i think servo horn hits side of fuse or something. also check out your fuel tank to make sure it is in good condition yourself. ive seen really bad arf fuel tanks- crimped tubes, leaks, u name it. better safe than sorry. H9 is great overall though. Ive personally had their 80"cub, 60 size superstick, 1/4 and 1/3 scale caps. If money grew on trees i'd love the new taylor craft. trade in the 80"cub for the 100" . They just keep getting better it looks like to me. I think the advance fourty is a little hard to tell top to bottom is its only downfall .

I too highly recommend the Advance 40. One other consideration is to replace the metal engine mount with something else. I've heard of horror stories of these breaking and causing crashes. I found mine to be broken after a crash and am not sure if it caused the crash or not.

dj

I just got one and its built very nice and covered perfect(see picture in other H9 post)I'm happy with it so far but i havent started building it yet.

My Hanger 9 UltraStick 40 is one of the best ARF I have seen. It flies very well and I'll recommend it over the Advance 40. The US flies as easy as any trainer, but with larger control throws and a computer radio can do some very cool things. Plus as a tail dragger it is way more durable than anything with a nose wheel.

Cheers!

Galen

Hi Bhouck,

I've built 3 Hangar nines, haven't been disappointed with any of them. My favorite is the Ultrastick 40. Goes together easy, handles great, Everything is built straight. All for the modest price of 120$ Not much more than one built from a kit, and better than i would have built. Best of all its done in two evenings, not two months.

I highly recomend using RCuniverse to research a plane, it can save you a lot of time. For example, for the Ultra stick 40. You read that the firewall and first former can come loose with a little vibration. So you pick up a 25 cent stick of triangle balsa when you pick up your kit, spend 15 minutes glueing it in and guess what? The "piece of crap" someone was *****ing about is magically transformed into a nearly perfect plane.

Everyone has pet peeves and preferences when it comes to outfitting a plane. Mine is tail wheels. I hate the ones supplied with most ARFs and kits, so i buy Dubro tails. Have two of them in a box on my workbench for planes i haven't even ordered yet. but guess what?! most of the guys at my club are using stock wheels and are happy with them. Imbeciles! all of them!

Yea it is tough sometimes to sort thru all the different opinions folks have, but if you ask me 80% of the enjoyment you get from this sport is doing just that. Just started a thread about a kit i am working on now. Learned a lot, built a fun plane, and interacted with some very cool folks. Just doesn't get much better than that.

Enjoy and, welcome back to the greatest sport in the universe.

Shmo

I've built the Cap 232,great plane.My dad built the Ultra Stick 120.fun to fly when you have a computer radio,JR8103. On the Stick make sure you put some cyno.where the horns mount on the wings. We had ours loosen up causing mass.flutter and the ail.ripped out. No worry this thing will fly slow. I landed it with no other damage... Build it and have fun!!!

Xtraflyr

I've had a PT 19 and not very good luck.The firewall pulled
out while in flight it was not pretty.

What engine were you using when that happened if I may ask? I just ordered one and am thinking that some glass or CF reinforcement might be a good idea?

Guys,
I have built 5 of the H9 Ultra series planes and the quality is really excellent. Most of their planes are a bit heavier than the competetion, but at the same time are probably built stronger. They also look good and are good flyers. The instructions are second to none, but do go with engines as large as or slightly larger than the largest recommended engines. I consider these and the World Models planes "Top-of-the-line" in the ARF category and in the hardware department H9 is best in almost all cases.

Sam

NERVOUS??

Afraid the H9 is a heroin addict? Or has a gambling problem??

What exactly is it that you are so " nervous" about?

H9 makes some of the best ARFs out there. I have purchased 11 of them in the last 3 years and the quality has always been at least as good as most other brands and in fact better than most!!

Besides, if you REALLY care about how your planes fly you will spend extra time doing mods to any ARF you buy as there is always room for improvement.

Two recent examples of modifications are my Kyosho Stearman Bipe and my H-9 Cub.

The Stearman now has ailerons on BOTH wings and the Cub has slats, flaps, horenor tips and fly wires on the tail feathers.

Get the H9 stick and go have some fun!!

I,ve only had 2 other h9s(matt chapman caps and they had miner problems wing servo mounts not glued enough) but the quality was very good.There hardware is the only ones i consider using because it is better than the rest of the arfs i have owned.Super kraft also makes some real nice arfs with premium quality but there hardware was pretty bad.My friend just picked up a Texas Huracane and it is an excellent arf and even comes with machined post type control horns that are real nice.It looks like super kraft is getting tired of peaple making fun of there hardware.