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Old 10-28-2008, 02:09 PM
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What are most flyers doing today to fuel up?
Squeeze bottle, hand pump or electric pump.
I picked up a few of those filler one way valves but it seems I have to re route the fuel lines to keep links out of them
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:13 PM
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Default RE: best way to fuel up

I use a hand pump. I like to be able to count how many cranks it takes to fuel, refuel, and defuel my planes.

All of my tanks are in the 4-10 ounce range. Perhaps if I flew 20 ounce tanks I would feel differently.
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Default RE: best way to fuel up

I use strictly hand pumps too for the same reason.

And I tried those fuel valves too, but you'll find that many of who have used them have since gotten rid of them in favor of Fuel Dots.
Old 10-28-2008, 02:31 PM
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Default RE: best way to fuel up

Definitely hand pump. I've tried electric pumps and had them fail.

I would also avoid the filler valves. Many of them end up leaking fuel or sucking air. Just go with t a fuel dot.

The simpler the system, the less chance for problems.
Old 10-28-2008, 02:42 PM
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Fuel Dots rock and hand crank pumps are ultra reliable.
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Default RE: best way to fuel up

I've never had a failure with an electric pump, however that said, the manual pumps offer much better control so they are my favorite.
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ORIGINAL: ChuckW

Definitely hand pump. I've tried electric pumps and had them fail.

I would also avoid the filler valves. Many of them end up leaking fuel or sucking air. Just go with t a fuel dot.

The simpler the system, the less chance for problems.
OK,
Thanks to all who responded.
I did make a nice tote box with power panel and the whole 9 yards.
I have both the hand crank and electric pumps.
Now I have to ask.
What the heck is a fuel DOT?
I paged through ther TH catalog here and haven't seen anything called a fuel dot[&o]
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I"ve tried just about any fuel pump on the market, and the hand pump is my favorite!
I have a fuel pump that is 7 years old and works just fine. I dont THINK that an electric pump can last that long.
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Now I have to ask.
What the heck is a fuel DOT?
I paged through ther TH catalog here and haven't seen anything called a fuel dot[&o]
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A dot is basically just a plug.

Some mfgs sell the plug with a fitting that goes on the cowl. But it's still just a fitting with a plug for the end of one fuel line. You can put two on the cowl and have one line to deliver fuel and the other for overflow.

(I buy just the plugs. The attached pictures show how to use plugs without the fancy fittings.)
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: Whirley Bird

Now I have to ask.
What the heck is a fuel DOT?
I paged through ther TH catalog here and haven't seen anything called a fuel dot[&o]
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The pictures are worth a million words
Thank you very much.
I found 6 brass fittings that look like what you have on the hoses.
I don't remember buying them but I have them.
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A dot is basically just a plug.

Some mfgs sell the plug with a fitting that goes on the cowl. But it's still just a fitting with a plug for the end of one fuel line. You can put two on the cowl and have one line to deliver fuel and the other for overflow.

(I buy just the plugs. The attached pictures show how to use plugs without the fancy fittings.)
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I like my electric pump..it's easy!
Old 10-28-2008, 10:52 PM
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Check out www.pspmfg.com Those are the ones I have always used, and come in several colors to match the plane.

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I just bought a hand pump thinking of going back to hand pumps but my Sonic Tronics Mark X still works after 18 years.
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Default RE: best way to fuel up

fuel dot and electric pump. i use to use a manual pump and count but now i'm much more a R&R flyer so i dont fly till i'm dry. i usually fill 80% of the tank and fly 60% of the tank and drain the fuel everytime to make sure that i'm not cutting it too close. the electric pump has not failed me yet! but i do agree that manual pump gives more control

another great method is this contraption. it goes between your tank and the carb. you remove it to fill the tank, completely avoiding getting fuel into the carb and just put it back when you're done. it also allows the pinch test while keeping a clean cowl.
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another great method is this contraption. it goes between your tank and the carb. you remove it to fill the tank, completely avoiding getting fuel into the carb and just put it back when you're done. it also allows the pinch test while keeping a clean cowl.
Great little piece, but where do you find them?
I've never seen them for sale.

Got a link?
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ORIGINAL: da Rock

ORIGINAL: Whirley Bird

Now I have to ask.
What the heck is a fuel DOT?
I paged through ther TH catalog here and haven't seen anything called a fuel dot[&o]
Vegas/
A dot is basically just a plug.

Some mfgs sell the plug with a fitting that goes on the cowl. But it's still just a fitting with a plug for the end of one fuel line. You can put two on the cowl and have one line to deliver fuel and the other for overflow.

(I buy just the plugs. The attached pictures show how to use plugs without the fancy fittings.)
I searched TH web site and located these dots
My question do I remove the hose from the muffler and plug the muffler?
If so then how is the tank vented?
Excuse me for being dumb in this area but I always few the trainers as they came and filled by pulling the hose off the carb
Here is what TH has.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXK138
Or ITEM LXK138
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Sullivan electric fuel pump & inline fuel filter (between the tank and the needle valve). I pull the tank line off of the filter and fuel/defuel through that.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXDES1&P=ML

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXK134&P=ML
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as long as I can get the fuel into my plane to fly it I dont care hand pumps are more precise on the count you can rotate how much fuel your using during flight real good for a completely hidden tank 20 turns from empty 15 turns to fill up ok I used 3/4 of a tank fly on fellas da fuel dot just to kool looking
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Sullivan electric fuel pump & inline fuel filter (between the tank and the needle valve). I pull the tank line off of the filter and fuel/defuel through that.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXDES1&P=ML

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXK134&P=ML
OK,
Thank you.
It looks like your doing what I have been doing.
Leaving the line on the muffler.
I have an electric pump on the tote box with a touch switch on the power panel so I can just tap and have control over the fill up.
Going to order some T's and fuel line.
Thanks for responding
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ORIGINAL: -pkh-

Sullivan electric fuel pump & inline fuel filter (between the tank and the needle valve). I pull the tank line off of the filter and fuel/defuel through that.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXDES1&P=ML

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXK134&P=ML
OK,
Thank you.
It looks like your doing what I have been doing.
Leaving the line on the muffler.
I have an electric pump on the tote box with a touch switch on the power panel so I can just tap and have control over the fill up.
Going to order some T's and fuel line.
Thanks for responding
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You can leave the line on the muffler, but I usually pull it off to vent the tank better as I fill or empty it.
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Default RE: best way to fuel up

I like electric pumps. It's just a preference.

I never remove the muffler pressure line. The muffler is not very restrictive so I do not think it interferes with venting when fueling or defueling. You can use fuel dots with two line systems or three line systems. I use three lines on my Corsair. Nothing else I own has a cowl so they just get fueled through the carb line.
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I like electric pumps. It's just a preference.

I never remove the muffler pressure line. The muffler is not very restrictive so I do not think it interferes with venting when fueling or defueling. You can use fuel dots with two line systems or three line systems. I use three lines on my Corsair. Nothing else I own has a cowl so they just get fueled through the carb line.
Thanks for the pictures carrellh.
I lik ethe 1st setup.
I ordered a lot of fuel fittings,filters,line and other hardware.
My intended small order came to $549.00
What the heck.
Been in the hospital 8 times in 14 months so i'm going to enjoy life wjhile i'm still here
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My intended small order came to $549.00
What the heck.
Been in the hospital 8 times in 14 months so i'm going to enjoy life while i'm still here
Vegas/

The online stores have ways to make you spend more, and feel good about it. Offer codes for increasing discounts at certain order totals. Heck, if you spend enough, some of it is "free."

None of us get out alive, so enjoy it while you can.
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My intended small order came to $549.00
What the heck.
Been in the hospital 8 times in 14 months so i'm going to enjoy life while i'm still here
Vegas/

The online stores have ways to make you spend more, and feel good about it. Offer codes for increasing discounts at certain order totals. Heck, if you spend enough, some of it is "free."

None of us get out alive, so enjoy it while you can.
YOU BET,
I paid the extra $9.99 so now i'm a *SPENDING MEMBER* LOL.
Well I have a bag of coupons so when I get the next check i'll buy more goodies I can do without but need.Well I got that big MK III coming and I fly out of a farm or from a large wide open sod farm and I like doing long flghts,skimming the turf and take it up high then idle it back down.
Sure beats stamp collecting
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well i get mine from the world models store in hong kong. so i checked airborne and they carry them for the states.

http://ecsvr.com/abm/ShopDisplayproducts.asp?Search=Yes

hope the link works!


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