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Old 06-09-2003 | 02:52 AM
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I am building the great planes pitts. I bought a moki 2.10 for it. Is anyone else out ther flying one of these with moki? Also my bottom wing had to be modified to fit in saddle. When you set it in the saddle , the back would sit up about 1/2 inch. I had to sand out the holes to get it to set in the saddle. Has anyone else had this problem?

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Old 06-09-2003 | 11:11 PM
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The Moki 210 is a perfect match! I fly at 6200 feet elevation and the Moki has plenty of power.

Be sure to replace the metal top wing brackets that hold the wing to the cabane. Mine broke the first flight! I was lucky that the whole wing didn't come off.
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Greetings, Edgeguy.
Replace the top wing brackets at the cabane? replace with what?
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The 2 little tin "L" brackets that are held in place on the wing with 2 sheet metal screws . There is a bolt that goes through these "L" brackets and throught the cabane.

I went to Lowes and purchased some heavier "L" brackets to replace the ones that broke.

I called GP and they said the brackets were not available. It would take weeks to get them in.
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Thanks for your reply.
I also considered heavier brackets but the hole location of those available at the local hardware don't match. I tried drilling holes in larger brackets but couldn't control the hole location, even on my drill press. Did you happen to find a size of bracket in heavier material that matches?
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Old 06-11-2003 | 10:09 AM
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thanks for the reply. I agree about the brackets. One oterh question, did you have problems with your wing saddle?

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Old 06-11-2003 | 05:00 PM
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The wing saddle issue has been noted by several others. All basically did the same thing. I had to as well on mine. Just drilled out the holes more so the dowels would fit and the wing would lay down smoothly in the saddle.

I'm using a Fuji 50 on mine and haven't had any problems with the Cabbane brackets. Let me ask you. Did your model come with one or two forward and one or two aft? I have two forward and two aft and was wondering if this was the same set-up as earlier models? Probably is, but thought I would ask. They do seem pretty thin.

Let me know what solution you come up with concerning the brackets. Have any pictures?
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The brackets I purchased from Lowes were just plain old metal "L" brackets for shelving. I did have to cut and grind and drill them to make them fit. It was some work but it came out good and the new brackets are much stronger.

This one had 2 foreward and 2 aft.

I was real lucky that my Moki flamed out in about 3 minutes and dead sticked in or I am sure the top wing would have broke right off. I had just got the model trimmed out and flying good didn't even do any radical stuff before it broke.

I will try to post some pics of the brackets I made.
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I am surprised that G.P hasn't done something about this. There have been several thread comments about the cabbane brackets coming lose and people losing airplanes. G.P. did do a nice job in adding hard wood for the cabbane mounts in later models, but to have metal brackets break, well, gosh darn. It's designed for the OS 160 which probably explains why they used this size brackets. However, by now I am confident G.P realizes that many people are using larger glow and gas engines now. In fact, they sent one with a Fuji 50 to Gerry Yarrish with MAN who did the review on this combo.

I still really like the airplane, but have to admit this causes me to want to change the brackets out to avoid the possibility of having the same problem. I also read a thread by a fellow who had the nylon hinges break. He said it was due to flutter. He repaired the hinges and then sealed the movable surfaces to solve this problem.

Right now I'm grounded with mine waiting on my receiver to be returned after breaking off about 2 inches of the Rx antenna. Arrgh.... Always something.

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