new arf from h9
03-27-2002 | 02:31 AM
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From: Satellite Beach,
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new arf from h9
built by a 6 year old Chinese girl.....who can build better than 95% of the people in this hobby.
I agree, I think its incredible ignorance by most people to assume that they could build better then some ARF’s. Fact is many people would be unpleasantly surprised if their planes were subject to such scrutiny. I also love to build kits, so I understand others blinding pride. But being that I build them I can’t say that I’m a great judge of my own work. Having been to places where these ARF’s are being built, I can tell you that my perspective has change and I have been humbled.
03-27-2002 | 01:38 PM
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new arf from h9
Having built or repaired models from all of the mentioned "high quality " kit guys, I would have to say, honestly -that the latest H9 Caps are as good as any and better than most.
Why?
First simple test- I can assemble and have a 23 lb , 1750 sq in , durable, straight model -
a week end project.
If we leave the time element out - there is still straightness, durability.
The "durable" ones are simply heavy.
The straight ones - well -that's up to the builder .
How about innovation?
They get four stars on that point.
Quality?
That is subjective-
On a bang for the buck - four more stars
On nit pickin sh-t?
a 5 of ten.
I had a guy who professes to be a "pro" builder tell me that these H9 things can't produce the same performance as the "high end" kits.
Pure , wistful thinking.
The setup and the flier represent 98% of any differences .
I still design and build a lot of my stuff - but I also use these ARFS as a std of performance.
Right now I am doing a H9 330 "clone" using their fuselage and my flying surfaces.
The stock 330 was simply -too heavy for me.
This one will be under 23lbs - last one was also there.
I do have order in for the new Sukhoi - which based on what i knoe of the project - will be in 22-23 lb range - I will use same engine they tested it with - (not the 80GT)
Why?
First simple test- I can assemble and have a 23 lb , 1750 sq in , durable, straight model -
a week end project.
If we leave the time element out - there is still straightness, durability.
The "durable" ones are simply heavy.
The straight ones - well -that's up to the builder .
How about innovation?
They get four stars on that point.
Quality?
That is subjective-
On a bang for the buck - four more stars
On nit pickin sh-t?
a 5 of ten.
I had a guy who professes to be a "pro" builder tell me that these H9 things can't produce the same performance as the "high end" kits.
Pure , wistful thinking.
The setup and the flier represent 98% of any differences .
I still design and build a lot of my stuff - but I also use these ARFS as a std of performance.
Right now I am doing a H9 330 "clone" using their fuselage and my flying surfaces.
The stock 330 was simply -too heavy for me.
This one will be under 23lbs - last one was also there.
I do have order in for the new Sukhoi - which based on what i knoe of the project - will be in 22-23 lb range - I will use same engine they tested it with - (not the 80GT)
08-07-2002 | 03:19 AM
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From: Irving,
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new arf from h9
RE: ARFs and (B)ARFS. Nothing can be made foolproof against a sufficiently talented fool. Arf or kit, there is still some value added by the builder. It goes without saying that experience will usually rule the day in the long run. By the way, my H-9 Sukhoi came in at 25.5 lbs, and that includes (2) 1700 mah NiCad batteries and a Zenoah 80 engine. NS SHERLOCK
