ahicks

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Lee, just look at the weight of the 15, and compare that to a DLE 20? From that point the attraction of the DLE will become pretty obvious. It's lighter than most 15's, and will just smoke them when it comes to performance. The plane is easily capable of handling the bigger prop the 20 uses, so there's really no downside to using it over the 15? Don't worry about the fit of the cowl. It'll work out fine.

el_xero

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Hi LeeB1

Actually there are many people on this very thread who have converted their Revolvers to run with the DLE20
The DLE20 along with its muffler weighs less than an O.S. 120AX, which is about the same size as a .90 engine, Check out the specs on towerhobbies.

I initialy had the 120AX on my Revolver and decided to put in a dle. There are plenty videos of the revolver with the dle on youtube and
even smaller airframes like the GP extra300 .60 and it fits into the cowl of both of those planes with relative ease.
I'd say get the dle, plus you've got the option of putting it on a larger air frame in the future if you so decide. I don't see how you can go wrong with this engine.
It's seems very well tested by many modelers and seems very reliable as well.

LeeB1

You guys are blowing me away! My Revolver currently has an OS 75 in now and I thought it really smoked -- so I thought a 15 CC gasser would be about right. I will have to give a DLE 20 CC some thought. Thanks all.

el_xero

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Thanks

mach2

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Id never looked at the OS15cc specs, but with more weight, more money and less power...Theres no way id consider it over ther DLE20. Ive seen the DLE20 for as little as $212. Dont remember where, but you should be able to find one for $229 easily.

Also, unless you want a big ugly muffler hanging out the bottom of the cowl and a a cyliner head out the side, youre gonna have to shell out even more cash for a pitts style muffler for the OS 15cc

join the DLE20/Revolver club. Youll be very very happy.

el_xero

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Dreamtime

Quick questions for all those happy DLE 20 owners. The new DLE RA (rear muffler) looks like it will be very sleek with minimal plug wire poking through the bottom of the cowl. My concern is, will the rear mounted muffler have enough clearance from the mount to firewall bolts? Al, I think you may looked into the RA version??

ahicks

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I haven't done it, but I did look at it, and that's how I would go if buying a new engine? The muffler extends to the rear no more than the carb body does, so unless you're cutting a hole in the firewall for carb clearance, you should be good to go. -Al

mach2

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I cant recall where i saw it, but ive seen a pic where someone had mounted up the 20ra and the muffler was rubbing on the bolt that secured the mount to the firewall. I dont recall if he had cut the fire wall to push the carb through though. So i guess my comment is of absolutely no help haha!

anyway, im not too excited about the new 20. I guess its that its the same displacement, slightly heavier and more money. AND the silicone pipes. Whats that about? Is there a benefit to them? I guess mostly im let down that it wasnt something like a 23 or even a 26cc engine. I like the affordability of the planes that are the 20cc size, i wish DLE had a engine that filled that gap between the 20 and 30cc engines. Id just like to be able to swing a bigger prop on something like my 67" edge, but putting a dle30 on it would weigh it down too much.

I dont see spending the extra coin on the same engine just because its got rear exhaust. But to each his own. Has anyone heard of dle planning on anything between the 20 and 30 any time in the near future? I was gonna try the rcgf 26cc BM (only $189!), but BP hobbies just ran out and from what they told me, it may be a while because theyre having "parts issues" with them.

el_xero

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After the video I saw of the RCGF engine compared to a DLE I'd ever buy one, The initial runs of them has so many issues and so many mod's and work around's had to be done to them and after that they were still unreliable. From there I stopped researching.

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Dreamtime

Thanks for the last two comments. I normally buy from Tower, but New Zealand customs has just made our lives more difficult and increased customs tarrifs. This means that at the end of the day I will have to buy locally as there are now only a few dollars in it.A few stores have some DLE available -- $400 for the DLE RA versus $380 for the original -- how's that for costs compared to the lucky US buyers!

mach2

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That's horrible man. Your paying more for the 20RA than we can get a DLE 55 for here.

el_xero....are you talking about the old 26cc engine with stand-offs, or the new beam mount version. The beam mount looks to be a larger version of their 20cc motor. Looks similar to the DLE20. There are some differences, one being it has two piston rings and I believe it has a sleeved cylinder.

From what ive heard the old 26 was junk. The reason I ask which you are thinking of is because there are almost no videos of the new beam mount. there is a video of a guy flying the crap out of a 3dhs Velox with it. It hovers really easily with a 18x6 and pulls out with the authority of the 50cc planes flying with a good 60cc engine!

The user posted that it swings a Carbon fiber 18x6 (didn't say what brand) at over 8800rpm. That's pretty damn good...

mach2

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el_xero...do you get my PMs?

ahicks

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Thinking you may have the RCGF confused with a different engine? Their recent stuff has all panned out reasonably well - unless I missed something?

motor12

Finally received my Revolver. Have everything needed for project including a DLE20. I started by reinforcing the gear attach point and plan on doing a lot of the mods outlined in this thread. With all the up grades this should be an outstanding airplane. Thanks.....

JoeMamma

Your gonna love it ! I have an O.S. 1.20AX in mine..........insane power !
Joe M.

mach2

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That seems to be the gist of what Ive read about the newer engines produced by RCGF. I just wish there were more people who have experience with the 26cc BM.

el_xero

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Hi ahicks thanks for pointing that out. you would be absolutely correct!

My apologies my apologies! I'll be more careful next time. It had been a while since I saw that review and went digging for it again to make sure and I did find it here is the link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdX5n_A4sbs

Turns out it was an NGH 17CC engine sorry again guys sorry sorry.

el_xero

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yup I'm getting them, I'm replying too.. I hope you're getting mine.

MetallicaJunkie

sure is awesome with the 120ax.... im running a Bisson pitts with 14x10 apc...how about you? i might order anbother cowl and experiment with a Saito 150 i have lying around with a 14x12 prop

edit... ahh i see you are using a Bisson as well

JoeMamma

Yep, Bisson Pitt's style.

All of my O.S. 1.20AX's seem to get more power as they age.

I started off with an APC 15x8 prop. That seems to be a good choice for insane climbing power. Tried both a 15x6 and 15x10, but the 15x8 suits my style of flying.

Joe M.

MetallicaJunkie

i gotta try a 15x8 the 14x10 seems too fast, it kinda takes the sport plane out of the revolver

JoeMamma

Too fast ? Yeah......I hear Ya. If I feel the need for speed I'll fly my electric powered EFlite Habu 32. Never did a serious MPH test on her, but she's gotta be doin' 125+ in a dive !

I have both the .60 size Revolver and the Great Planes .60 size Escapade in my stable. The .60 size Revolver is definitely happier with speed and the Escapade is happier with slower 3D maneuvers. It all depends on your flying style.

I've been in the market for another 80"+ plane for a while. Had it narrowed down to either the Great Planes 84" Reactor or the 50cc size Great Planes Revolver. I looked at other planes but I'm also looking into cashing in my Tower gift certificates.

After reading most of the 50cc Revolver and 50cc Reactor threads (an awful lot of reading), I decided on the Reactor.

From what I've read, the 50cc Revolver is more of a pattern plane while the 50cc Reactor is a lot more of a 3D plane.

I ordered the Reactor yesterday and will power it with a DLE 55.

Joe M.

mach2

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Im not a big fan of the 50cc Revolver. I thought i would be, but it just looks kinda ugly to me. Maybe the color scheme?

As for the 120ax, ive seen videos and looks like they fly great. But, the sound, torque and fuel economy of the DLE is what makes me love the engine. Not to mention the sleeker look of the cowl. Just a little bit of the cylinder head and the muffler pipe sticking out the bottom. Looks as clean as it can get aside from E power...

I would get damn tired of paying the price of glow fuel for a 120 quick. Only burning glow in my little P51 suits me just fine haha! Actually, ive considered ditching glow all together and getting a 15cc gasser for it too! I love the ease of starting them (i hand start my planes).