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larksrc 06-08-2005 06:10 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
Does anyone have any video of their twists doing aerobatics?

ghee-grose 06-08-2005 06:29 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
I've got a short one of mine doing 8 rolls in 4 seconds. Will post a link later.

twilly123 06-08-2005 07:30 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
I have a question about the stock main landing gear on the twist. Does it matter which way it is turned when mounted. Instructions say the angle on the gear should be towards rear of plane (what angle). I must be brain dead help please. Searched thread didn't find anything.
Tim W

Jack211 06-08-2005 09:00 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
Skukreja: re weak fuse for the Twist

The problem with strengthening the fuse is that, if you do, the plane will transfer those crash energies to other parts of the plane which may not be so easy to fix. When I broke my fuse in a crash, I doubled the joint at the fractures, not the whole thing. Sure enough, a couple days ago, I pulled a dumb one and ran my Twist, on takeoff, into a stool that I had forgotten about. [Lesson learned: tunnel vision destroys planes.]

The fuse chose another place to break forward of the previous breaks--also easy to fix. Now, had I doubled the entire fuse under the wing (where they always seem to break), I have no idea where the damage would have shown up--in the wing, the tail feathers, in the forward compartment, the firewall...?

In other words, I believe the fuse is "designed" to break first, for good purpose. Fudge with that design at your own risk.

Jack211 06-08-2005 09:22 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
Ghee: re Gorilla Glue

Gorilla Glue is about twice as expensive as Ace Hardware's "Probond,' (Borden's), which is the same stuff. Just don't forget to apply water to all parts first, the stuff requires water to make the bond. Also, be prepared for some expansion. Probond is a great filler because of that expansion. I repaired my Uproar leading edge (a 1 and 1/2 inch branch of alder branch performed batting practice with the wing). I watered down the hole, filled it to about 2/3rds with probond, taped the hole with masking tape to follow the LE curve, then let it sit for 24 hours. The glue pushed out the tape a little, so when I removed the tape I just sanded the glue down--has the consistency and strength of blue styrofoam insulation--and used some plastic fix-up tape to cover the damage and make it look good, well... okay.

That bird's still flying, not weakness at the pt of damage.

cowwboyy 06-08-2005 10:07 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
OH boy I am excited now. The twist is ready for flight. I taxied it around awhile to give a preflight run cuz it was gettn to dark to fly.I got her fast enough to lift off just a second or two and boy did I wanta strech them wings! Oh well I guess good things come to those who wait.Just hope the weather will give me a chance tomorrow.

larksrc 06-08-2005 10:26 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
I gotta wait til saturday to fly mine. bummer[:o]

skukreja 06-08-2005 10:27 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
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ORIGINAL: Jack211

Skukreja: re weak fuse for the Twist

The problem with strengthening the fuse is that, if you do, the plane will transfer those crash energies to other parts of the plane which may not be so easy to fix. When I broke my fuse in a crash, I doubled the joint at the fractures, not the whole thing. Sure enough, a couple days ago, I pulled a dumb one and ran my Twist, on takeoff, into a stool that I had forgotten about. [Lesson learned: tunnel vision destroys planes.]

The fuse chose another place to break forward of the previous breaks--also easy to fix. Now, had I doubled the entire fuse under the wing (where they always seem to break), I have no idea where the damage would have shown up--in the wing, the tail feathers, in the forward compartment, the firewall...?

In other words, I believe the fuse is "designed" to break first, for good purpose. Fudge with that design at your own risk.
Jack, you may indeed be right.. I just finished up twist #2 today and decided to reinforce the "weak point." With plenty of gorilla glue, basswood, and some triangle stock, that area is surely more durable than before.. We'll see where the energy transmits.

Trogdor the Burninator 06-09-2005 09:18 AM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
Wow, that's a lot of glue... I wonder if you filled the entire airspace in the wings and fuse if it'd survive anything!! :)

skukreja 06-09-2005 09:21 AM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
yeah, I dunno.. a lot of glue for sure, but it's gorilla glue so it expands and is pretty light.. when all was said and done, she weighed in at 5lbs, 1oz.. not bad I guess :).

Sachin


ORIGINAL: Trogdor the Burninator

Wow, that's a lot of glue... I wonder if you filled the entire airspace in the wings and fuse if it'd survive anything!! :)

ghee-grose 06-09-2005 09:21 AM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
Is that gorilla glue as heavy as epoxy or is it kinda like that spay-in expanding foam insulation?

ghee-grose 06-09-2005 09:22 AM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
:D question answered!

mortarmagotjoe 06-09-2005 10:21 AM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
WHAT YOUR NOT GOING TO WAIT FOR ME???? SO MUCH FOR TRADITION!!!!!

ghee-grose 06-09-2005 10:22 AM

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You know what happens when you get out of the usual pattern of tradition, don't you??? [sm=surprised.gif]

cowwboyy 06-09-2005 05:42 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
Well it it looks like I will be waiting any way.Kansas wind is at it"s best and storms behinde that.Maybe I should ,wait fer Mortarmagotjoe................hmmmmmmm

Pilot Chad 06-09-2005 10:23 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
goose, where do you fly? We need to fly sometime.

patnjimtucker 06-10-2005 06:50 AM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
I drove my twist into the ground yesterday. Darn. I was doing so well. Have been practicising loops, spins, inverted flight, touch and go's. And just like all the posts that I have seen recenlty it broke just behind the canopy. The tail is in perfect condition, and the engine broke off at the holes in the motor mounts. Engine looks fine. In addition the servo leads going from the Rx to the tail servos came apart at the joints, so no damage there. The only item that I am not sure about is the receiver antenna. It looks like the antenna pulled right out of the receiver. I have not opened it up yet to look. It's a Futuba. Does anyone know if you can just reinsert antenna wire? Perhaps it has to be soldered. Second question. One guy at the field said be real careful when I repair it as the lenght is critical. This I understand. One guy said they are 1 meter long, another said they are 1 yard long. Any comments?

In hind site, I got myself too low, and I lost orientation of the plane and the wrong finger did the wrong thing. Lesson learned - keep it higher! This weekend I will get my 2nd Twist ready. This time I will move the engine a little further aft, and end up with my C of G at 4 1/4'' instead of 4". It flew great at 4" but I want to try to expand my skills, so it's time to mover 1/4" further aft. And I will repair Twist # 1 when I get a rainy day next week.

Super D 06-10-2005 07:31 AM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
I have replaced futaba antenas in 3 channel recievers. Hobby shops carry them and I just soldered a new one on. Sorry for you mishap, just part of this hobby.

ghee-grose 06-10-2005 07:51 AM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
patnjimtucker, sorry for your loss. Sounds like you will be flying a Twist again soon though! You are determined to have fun...that's what it's all about!!! :D

spd37 06-10-2005 12:14 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
Wll I guess I'll join in on this post also. Got my Twist up and flying last weekend. First a little about it. I have a saito .82 using a 14x4w prop with 3.5" foam wheels and the center of gravity is set at just under 4.5". The engine was brand new and is still not totally broke in yet. It's spinning the prop at 9600 rpms.

Ok now for a little flight report. This is my third plane. First was a trainer the second one a GP slow poke. The day was a great day for flying. Sunny about 80° and 5 mph wind. It took off great and only needed one click of trim on the rudder and elevator. First two flights the engine was running very rich so I only flew for 5 minutes each flight, just trying to get use to the plane. The third flight I leaned out the engine some and did some loops and rolls. Basicly the same for the fourth flight. Flew it again last night for two flights. The more I fly this thing the more I love it. The take offs are very smooth and easy and the landings are slow and predictable. It has so much more response than my slow poke. I don't know how to do any 3d stuff yet but I'm looking forward to learning on this plane. It has become my favorite plane to fly. Easy to build and easy to fly.

Now the bad. Not really bad just a minor worry. When I got the plane there was a small piece of wood in the wing bouncing around. No big deal it sounded very small and I read on here that it was common. After flying last night I noticed now I have what sounds like a much bigger piece lose in the center section of the wing. It sounds like it is held in place by something like it isn't just bouncing around loose like the other piece. It kind of flopps up and down in the wing. I thought about taking the covering off and checking it out but with the sheeting in the center of the wing that really wouldn't do any good. Should I worry about this and try and see what it is or should I just let it go. Thanks for any help you can give me. I love this plane!

Trogdor the Burninator 06-10-2005 12:38 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
After a couple pancakes with my Twist you can set the wing on its end and hear balsa raining through the inside of the wing. Everything stills feels strong when trying to twist the wing so I just leave it alone. No problems.. .yet, I guess!

Ernie Misner 06-10-2005 03:17 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
spd37, you are doing very good for this only being your 3rd plane! Way to go. Keep re-reading the above post though, and stay several mistiakes high for quite a while. Do you have a simulator to practice some of the 3D stuff on?

The antenna wire needs to be one meter or 39.5? inches long. It can be any type of wire actually since the exact diameter makes no difference, only the length. A trick that I use is to snip the wire off a couple of inches from the receiver, and then make up antenna wires from a bulk spool of wire for each plane. That way the wire can be glued into place inside of the fuse, or zig zagged along the bottom of the fuse on the outside and glued into place. Time for a new plane? Just snip the wire off from the receiver again.

Ernie

E-Mo 06-10-2005 06:38 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
spd37

do you think it might be your servo leads?

feel around the sheating for cracks / soft spots

if it is solid, i would not second guess it

twilly123 06-10-2005 08:49 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
I have a question about the stock main landing gear on the twist. Does it matter which way it is turned when mounted. Instructions say the angle on the gear should be towards rear of plane (what angle). I must be brain dead help please. Searched thread didn't find anything.
Tim W

E-Mo 06-10-2005 08:59 PM

RE: Hangar 9 Twist 3D
 
one side is taperd

one is straight

the slanted side goes twords the rear...



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