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summerwind 11-21-2007 07:38 AM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
just wanted to point out something about this airplane and using a 1.20 four stroke..............there was one at my field this last Sunday, it had an older style OS 1.20 on it. this engine powered this thing like it was a typical sport plane............had more than enough power even at 1/2 throttle.
i can't imagine why anyone would put a big gas motor on it and spoil the characteristics of the bird by adding all the extra wieght, not to mention the vibration.

TomCrump 11-21-2007 08:06 AM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 


ORIGINAL: summerwind

just wanted to point out something about this airplane and using a 1.20 four stroke..............there was one at my field this last Sunday, it had an older style OS 1.20 on it. this engine powered this thing like it was a typical sport plane............had more than enough power even at 1/2 throttle.
i can't imagine why anyone would put a big gas motor on it and spoil the characteristics of the bird by adding all the extra wieght, not to mention the vibration.


To each his own.

Since the SS, powered with a 1,20 foure stroke, requires added nose weight, I'd prefer to add the this weight in the form of the addittional power that a gasser provides.

Flyboy1958 11-21-2007 10:24 AM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
I have a G26 on mine and it's perfect. No added extra weight, and flys very realistic.

summerwind 11-21-2007 11:07 AM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 


ORIGINAL: TomCrump



ORIGINAL: summerwind

just wanted to point out something about this airplane and using a 1.20 four stroke..............there was one at my field this last Sunday, it had an older style OS 1.20 on it. this engine powered this thing like it was a typical sport plane............had more than enough power even at 1/2 throttle.
i can't imagine why anyone would put a big gas motor on it and spoil the characteristics of the bird by adding all the extra wieght, not to mention the vibration.


To each his own.

Since the SS, powered with a 1,20 foure stroke, requires added nose weight, I'd prefer to add the this weight in the form of the addittional power that a gasser provides.
this is totally untrue....................mine has a FT1.60 twin on it and it came out nose heavy........had to move both batteries well behind the wing.
2 others i've seen with 1.20's have balanced perfectly. several people here and 1 reviewer who used 1.20's also did not need added nose wieght. there was a post somewhere that pointed out that the added nose wieght came from using a .91 four stroke.........mainly a carry over from the manual for the military version.

the point i am trying to make is that if someone that doesn't know any better reads this thread, they'll end up putting a monster of an engine in this plane when they don't need to.
i too was having doubts about the engine size as well, but after seeing this plane fly with an "OLDER" version of the OS 1.20 swinging a 16x6, and no nose wieght added, i can honestly say to those thinking about this plane, to go ahead with a 1.20 and be prepared to have a blast................

TomCrump 11-22-2007 04:30 AM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
Point well taken, summerwind.

I'm making a little progress on my SS. Modelling time is hard to come by, as I'm in the process of remodeling my bathroom. I now have the wings mounted. Hope to find a little time to work on the Stearman over the long holiday weekend.

telejojo 11-23-2007 06:42 AM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
I put a G-20 in mine and I don't need to use the weght box.I hope to maiden it sat. if the weather holds out........

rexracer 11-23-2007 09:40 AM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
I have a question for anyone who has a Saito, or other metric motor on this thing. I'm having trouble putting the spinner on. I bought a spinner adaptor, but it's too long to let the spinner seat aganst the backplate. Anyone know where I can get a short (1/2" to 5/8") adaptor for my Saito? it's 8mmx1.25. the one i bought was about 7/8" to 1" long with the split cone end as a jam nut. I would have cut it down, but there are only 1/8" of threads for the spinner bot, and I would need to cut off 3/8" minimum.

bucho 11-26-2007 07:48 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
did some one have the military version? how it do it?

tyler2 01-02-2008 04:20 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
Would a Zenoah G20ei work well in the Stearman ?

zdsh13 01-02-2008 05:33 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 


ORIGINAL: rexracer

I have a question for anyone who has a Saito, or other metric motor on this thing. I'm having trouble putting the spinner on. I bought a spinner adaptor, but it's too long to let the spinner seat aganst the backplate. Anyone know where I can get a short (1/2" to 5/8") adaptor for my Saito? it's 8mmx1.25. the one i bought was about 7/8" to 1" long with the split cone end as a jam nut. I would have cut it down, but there are only 1/8" of threads for the spinner bot, and I would need to cut off 3/8" minimum.

Dave Brown spinners also has prop nut adaptors in long or short versions, I needed one for my Saito 125 arrangement. I would imagine any hobby store would stock this item.

telejojo 01-02-2008 06:27 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
My g20 works just fine.It has more than enough power although not enough for unlimited vertical it will do loops and hamerhead stalls just fine.It probably flys pretty close to scale.

Flyboy1958 01-02-2008 06:29 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
I have the G26 in mine and it's perfect. I have a smoke system hooked up to it as well. I flys very realistic, so I'm sure the G20ei would be a perfect choice.

eric wilson 01-02-2008 06:58 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
I finaly got mine finished, havent flown it yet due to weather. 14 pounds 6oz with skywriter pump and Brillelli 26.

Flyboy1958 01-02-2008 08:15 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
It can be a little touchy on take off, bring the power up steady until it gets rolling 20 feet or so, then bring the power up and the tail will pop right up. Just be ready to use the rudder and also be ready to abort the take off. Landing you have to keep the power up a little since it is a heavy airplane, but it lands real nice, it does like to bounce if you don't have the right airspeed on landing, but it's easy to get the hang of it. It is really a cool looking airplane in the sky!

eric wilson 01-02-2008 08:24 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
I put the 4.5" pnumatic wheels on it to help keep the bounce down. The ones that came in the kit seemed a little hard.

Flyboy1958 01-02-2008 09:55 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
I did the same thing, it does help.

tyler2 01-04-2008 01:42 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
Thanks for the info on the G20ei. Any feedback on the ARF quality would also be welcome.... positive and negative ! Are the rinkles as bad as many seem to indicate ?

Thank-you

Flyboy1958 01-04-2008 04:23 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
Some spots are kind of bad. The trick is to let the air out when you reshrink the covering. I took a needle and poked a small hole through the wood part and into the open area of the part that was rinkled, shrunk it and it's perfect now.

KurtS 02-19-2008 07:19 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
Someone was looking for one of these a while back if I remember right. Anyway, I just put mine up for sale here in the classifieds. It's new in the box. Selling it because I have too many other projects I want to build and the sale will help pay for those.

Regards

Kurt

stefan64 02-22-2008 04:27 AM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 


ORIGINAL: Tbatt

Guys, I've got this plane and have been flying it for a couple of years using a Saito 170 R3 for power. It is the ULTIMATE combination! You will forget all about the cost of this engine the first time you start it. The performance is on par with what this airplane is, a scale bipe. I have also seen several of these with the G26 engine and they fly about the same as mine, BUT, the sound of the radial makes the plane!



I now have the Saito 325 radial and I am looking for a suitable plane. For me the GP Stearman looks about to be right.

Does anybody fly this combination?

What is the size (dia.) of the cowling? Does the 325 engine fit?

@Tbatt what about balancing the Stearman with your 170 radial, did you need some extra weight in the nose?

Any comment is welcome.

rcten 02-22-2008 03:33 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
Stefan64, The cowling on the SS is to small in diameter for the 325, the 170 fits quite nicely though. I believe someone earlier spoke of a GP pt17 using the 325, but in my opinion the engine weights to much for this airframe. I too have a 325, but I installed the 170 in my SS, it balances very nicely without added nose weights. Check out post 943,944.

rcmigpilot 02-22-2008 09:23 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
Have to agree with rcten, the 3.25 in addition to being to big it's also way to much motor. I also have a 170 in mine and the performance is just about right. Mine also balanced without any additional weight in the front.

freeonthree 02-24-2008 04:00 PM

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I recently got a GPSS, and I put an SV26 gas engine on it. Spinning an 18x8 Master Airscrew classic at 7100 restrained. I love the way it flies, and it lands like a dream. It's the easiest plane to fly that I have ever owned. I hope they never discontinue this plane...
By the way, with the SV26, it balanced perfectly, and flys for penny's...

stefan64 02-29-2008 02:10 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
Here you can find an article about the Stearman powered by a 40cc seidel radial. I think it must approx weigh very similar like mine.

http://www.vth.de/archiv/texte/fmt2006_05_022.pdf

There currently is a Jamara stearman with 1.96m available from www.modellhobby.de

but there are two things I don't know/ dislike.

The decal scheme is horrible.

I nver heard good things about jamaras planes. Does anyone know about the jamara stearman?

Rgds from Germany.

Stefan


freeonthree 02-29-2008 07:14 PM

RE: GP Super Stearman
 
I've always had wonderful luck with Great Planes.


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