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ronk1 09-06-2004 02:57 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
The covering is not as good in the hot sun as Monocote, mainly the black. Its not bad though, I would compare it to Ultracote to work with. In fact the colors match Ultracote best. It takes Ironing and heat gun well with out worry of burning. The only thing I did was replace the black on the wing and now all is fine. So far it seem like it will hold up well. I've seen ARF's with covering that is not near this quality.

john316 09-07-2004 07:25 AM

RE: BME Edge?
 
Thanks Ronk1!

jmw

Bryant330L 09-07-2004 06:25 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
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Well, I have it finished. I am not real happy with the balance, but everything else came out nice. The balance is 5 1/2" back from the LE at the fuse. To you guys that are flying this, is that safe? I like a fairly tail heavy plane, but I don't want something that is going to be dangerous. I can replace that stock tail wheel setup, but that is not going to move the cg much. I checked the cg without the tail wheel on there and it only advanced it a little. I don't want to add lead cause it is already 17.2 lbs, but I don't want a terrible handling airplane either. I know some of these manufactures cg are real conservative, and I hope thats the case on this one. Should be able to try it out when the weather clears a little.

Y N C 09-07-2004 09:10 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
Hi Bryant your cg at 5 1/2 will be fine. I flew mine at 5 3/4 today and it was good, hover alot better then when i had it at 5 1/4. I see you weight with the Brison is close to mine 17.5lb, maybe i not crazy after all:D Are you running 2 receiver batterys and what muffler?

Slyder 09-07-2004 09:45 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
Looks great, cant wait to hear what you think of it.

coony2787 09-07-2004 09:53 PM

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Looks great Bryant330L. Let us know what you think about it. I'am trying to sell my Double Vision now so i can buy this plane instead!

Chad

Bryant330L 09-07-2004 10:13 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
I will be sure to give a flight report for you guys. We need more reports on this plane so others can decide for or against it. Thanks for the info Y N C. That eases my mind on the cg issue. Thanks for compliments also. I think this covering scheme is more exciting than the stock one.

DENNIS C 09-08-2004 05:58 AM

RE: BME Edge?
 

ORIGINAL: Bryant330L

I don't want to add lead cause it is already 17.2 lbs, but I don't want a terrible handling airplane either.
I thought these planes were suppose to come in @ 15 lbs..............What happened

ptgarcia 09-08-2004 12:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: bodymann

I thought these planes were suppose to come in @ 15 lbs..............What happened
Just like every other light-weight claim made by every other manufacturer out there it is bogus. The larger ARFs always seem to come out around 10% heavier than the high end of the claimed weight range. I just wish these guys would be honest about the weight, its really not a big deal. I'm sure the BME Edge will be an outstanding performer at 17-lbs anyway!

Dago Red 09-08-2004 03:39 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
Just got my Carbonfiber spinner and muffler in today:D

Y N C 09-08-2004 09:42 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
BME claim the plane is no more than 15.5 or 16lbs, but the plane comes out of the box with little hardware that came with it is 10lb 5oz, by the time you add engine , radio equiments, and the rest of the hardwares its going to be 17 +lbs. It's still a great flying plane, just a little dispointed of the weight. Maybe their scale only goes to 15.5lbs.

ptgarcia 09-09-2004 10:14 AM

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ORIGINAL: Y N C

BME claim the plane is no more than 15.5 or 16lbs, but the plane comes out of the box with little hardware that came with it is 10lb 5oz, by the time you add engine , radio equiments, and the rest of the hardwares its going to be 17 +lbs. It's still a great flying plane, just a little dispointed of the weight. Maybe their scale only goes to 15.5lbs.
That's my point. You know and they know this plane will be fantastic at 17-lbs, so they might as well say its going to be 17-lbs! Truthful information will get me to buy a plane far sooner than a "light weight" claim.

aeromax 09-09-2004 01:27 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
:)testing

coony2787 09-09-2004 04:12 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
You all need to remeber that a BME 50cc only wieghts in at 3.0lbs that leaves 2 lbs for the rest of the stuff. I think it can come in at 15.5lbs with the right engine and equipment.


What engine are you guys using that came in at 17lbs ??? And what batteries ??


Chad

Bryant330L 09-09-2004 04:56 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
I have a Brison 3.2 for power, 1200 NiMH for rx and the same for ign. Motor weight is not really too much of an issue on mine because I am still tail heavy. If my motor was lighter I would still have to add weight. I don't put too much stock in manufacturers weight because they are hardly ever right. There is no way to get this plane anywhere close to the 14lbs that they have listed on the bottom end of their scale. I know mine could be lighter but it would take redoing the plane to get the weight up front.

ptgarcia 09-09-2004 05:06 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
3-lbs is probably for a bare engine. Its more like 4-lbs ready to fly (pitts muffler, ignition and battery included). I just don't see any coming in under 16-lbs, with something closer to 17-lbs the norm. Again, these planes will be awesome at 17-lbs so its not a big deal. I just take exception to false claims.

coony2787 09-09-2004 06:40 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
I'am not defending them , i agree that manfactures cannot tell the whole truth!! I just am fixin to order one of these and trying to get all the info i can and the best plane !!!

I was wondering if someone would mind measuring one wing half for me on there BME edge, I need the legnth and the width of the root and the tip. I'am just wanting to know the real wing area of this plane .

One place that i have found is that manafactures cannot tell the truth about wing area!! They usually include the fuse there and some even just add the tail in for good measure. When the only thing that actually flies is the wing itself ..... It is what holds the plane in the air the rest of the plane just controls the wing. Any way if some one would measure that i would appreciate it.


Chad

Bryant330L 09-09-2004 07:18 PM

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length of one panel---- 38 1/8" root width 20 1/8" tip width--10"

coony2787 09-09-2004 07:38 PM

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Thanks alot Bryant330L.


Chad

Y N C 09-09-2004 09:17 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
Hey Ptgarcia don't forget you need a engine mount for the BME. Brison 4.1lb with ignition and muffler.

coony2787 09-10-2004 08:53 AM

RE: BME Edge?
 
Well i figured the wing area for the BME. It has 1148.52 square inches of wing area. That is not too bad. Now that is real wing area no cheating and just the wing.

17lbs , 1148.52 wing area, yikes wing loading kinda high !!!! Has anyone done some high alpha stuff with this plane yet ?


Chad

Y N C 09-10-2004 11:09 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
That can't be right. My wm extra 300s and Sig Sukhoi has more wing area than that and it's a small wing.

coony2787 09-10-2004 11:19 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
I do believe that my math is correct , are you going by what is advertised or did you measure the wing ? I have found that advertised wing area includes the fuse. As we all know the fuse does not fly the wing does! the rest of the plain just holds the wing and controls it. If i'am wrong please correct me !

Chad

Y N C 09-10-2004 11:22 PM

RE: BME Edge?
 
Bryant330l flew the Edge today with cg at 6inch from leading edge, that's balance at the middle of the wing tube and it still very stable, hover and TR alot better too. The only thing I notice it has little more coupling during knift edge, other than that its the nices plane I had flowen so far.

Bryant330L 09-11-2004 01:24 AM

RE: BME Edge?
 
Well, I got to fly mine today also. My cg is still at 5 1/2 and it is good there. The plane is very stable in a harrier. It is a really nice flyer for a plane this size. It flys a little like my 34% Extra but just not quite as stable in some 3d stuff. Harrier rolls are nice and pretty much everything else it too. My Brison gave it unlimited vertical, but it does not "rocket" out of a hover. My only real concern with this plane is the lack of rudder authority. It didn't seem like it had very much. Maybe I don't have enough servo on it. I am running a Hitec 700 on 6v, which has 161 oz of torque. I would think that would be plenty. For you guys on the fence about buying this one... I give it a thumbs up. Particleman here on rcu flew it for a little while too, maybe he will give his opinion on how it flys.


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