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I WOULD CHALLENGE QUIQUE SOMINZINI TO A 3D CHALLENGE, ME WITH MY MOJO AND HIM WITH A "TANGO". I GAURANTEE A VICTORY WHY..... CUZ IM A PRO BRO AND I HAVE MY MOJO

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I was just sitting here trying to imagine the conversation that took place deep within the think tank at H9.......must have gone something like this............

The Director; "We need a winner..a new kind of bird that will make every Rc'er want to own one...any suggestions?"

Stooge#1 "I think we should contact the ProBro's, and see what suggestions they might have. There are some pretty amazing profiles out there, and designers with innovative ideas........"

The Director; " Those guys are lunatics...it's a cult/fringe group, and they don't know squat about this hobby....and by the way...YOU'RE FIRED!!! Any more suggestions? I didn't think so.......Look guys.....we have tons of wings and fuse's from all our cheap, non-selling STUFF... that nobody buys......sitting on the shelf........
What if we took the leftover Twist wings, and all those leftover Tribute fuse's...sanded the tails down a bit, maybe some new Chinacote.......and Hey, I know.........lets mount the wing ON TOP!!!

OK...we going to need a catchy name ...hmmmm let's see....Magic is taken.....I KNOW...WE SHALL CALL IT TANGO!!!!!"



Sorry...too much idol time on my hands....SINCE I TOASTED MY MOJO!!@!!:D

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What's a MOJO? Some kind of new coffee drink at Starbucks? Just curious. I couldn't fly 3D at this point. I'm just getting the landings down.:D

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Mojo. Available in 5 flavors from .25 to 1.5 (or so).

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The Tango is just something different, unlike anything another manufacturer has come up with. H9 already makes the Twist in 3 sizes, and they already have a profile plane, the Tribute, with a removable wing, no less. If you read the H9/Horizon description of it, it's just meant to be a fun-flyer with some sport and 3D performance.

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I can't wait to see the review in the mag. No doubt it will be done by some spineless twit that is more interested in getting free stuff than having any form of integrity by telling the truth. The reviewer will say it hovers effortlessly at 1/4 throttle and it is a 3D machine, but will not show any pictures of it doing anything even close to 3D.

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:eek: I doubt anyone expects such performance out of a high-wing plane. Comparing the Tango with a 3D profile plane doesn't really make much sense. This is just a sport flyer with a fat wing and some 3D capabilities.

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Where does the term some 3D capabilities come from?. Below you will find it straight from the horses mouth. No Bro will conciser a 10 foot loop tight. No bro will think 18.5 oz per sq foot is light wing loading. And yes people will expect such performance because there is one born everyday that falls for such marketing tactics.


The following is from HH website.

For instance, the light wing loading and oversized control surfaces allow for incredible 3D maneuvers. From hovers to harriers to knife-edge loops, the Tango can handle just about any aerobatic maneuver thrown its direction—including its signature aptitude for amazing, flat spins. Using a Saito™ .72, the Tango can run tight ten-foot loops and—unlike some fun-fly planes—full-throttle high-speed runs. It’ll hover and torque-roll down to head high. On low rates with low power settings, the Tango demonstrates stable slow-speed characteristics and very gentle stalls.

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Most people interested in this plane don't really care what the "Bro's" think of it, and I'm sure H9 doesn't care either. You are not the intended market for this plane.

None of the claims you quoted from Horizon's site seem unreasonable, and the fact that you think a 10 foot loop is not "tight" or that the wing loading is not "light" is irrelevant.

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Wow, you guys are a tough crowd. As far as being a super 3Der, highly doubt it. However I don't think that was the target (although HH does over embelish a bit in the description). I'll probably get one as a fun fly-sunday flier-throw around plane just for kicks. I would consider this a super trainer plane. Easy enough to fly on low rates, but actually capable of some fun with higher rates.

-Dave

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You are correct.......we are not the "target market" for this slug. The intended market is innocent, fairly new pilots, that have no idea what a great performing 3d bird should handle like. When they purchase and try their hand at 3d with this log, they will certainly be disappointed that it can't do what the manufacture says it can.
They have been taken in by the tripe, the hype and the trash!! I truly believe that H9 is doing a major dis-service to would be 3d pilots everywhere!!!

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"New" pilots looking at H9 for a "true" 3D plane will be looking at the Twists or the Tribute, not the Tango. If they are so new and naive as to think the Tango will be an all out 3D performer, then they aren't ready for a 3D bird anyway.

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Head-high isn't *low*!

What happens if you try to do a tail-touch with a Tango? Obviously once you get down *below* "head high" all bets are off in respect to its 3D qualities.

Hell, I don't consider that I'm really 3Ding unless some part of my profile is dragging on the tarmac :-)

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Xjet,

I took a look at your video and I have never seen so many rednecks floating, planes before. Complete with Dukes of Hazzard car. I'm not buying a "Mojo" kit profile plane so I can cut Jed's profile kit "Mojo" in half that took forever to build, then laugh about it and call it a party. And if I want a taco or burrito I'll go to Taco Bell. I've got a job other than making moonshine and I definately wouldn't tattoo my knuckles with "PRO BRO" like that guy in that video.

Gimmie a Tango or any other sad 3der. I rely on the wings for most of the lift, if not it can't be a plane and therefore must be a heliocopter. IMO

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Hey, I'm glad you liked it!

How are those left-hand turns coming -- you can't fly right hand circuits *all* the time you know :-)

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Good, thanks for asking. Doing a lot of take offs and landings too.;)

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Sir, we are trying to have a civil conversation here about the marketing tactics of one of the largest suppliers of r/c models. I guess if you cant dispute the fact that the tangfago is a plane aimed at closet 3D wantabies who want to look like CJ and then when no one is looking do the dirty deed, then you resort to name calling. Your sig even insults everyone's wives.

come on tell us how the weight of that plane, the wing loading of that plane, the canopy design, the thrust lines, the percent of horizontal stab vs elevator, the tail moment, adds up to an incredible 3D machine.

How are you going to get a good thrust to weight ratio and stay within an acceptable wing loading when the tank weighs 6 or more pounds.

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REM........... just save your time and energy, because this SNACKER guy does not get it! HE NEVER WILL.....he's too busy being an expert!!!:D

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My apologies for using the word "redneck". I should have refered to them as the guys with long hair, backward hats, tatoos and Dukes of Hazzard cars. Again I apologize for any offense.

I just thought people critizing a plane that no one on this board seems to have flown yet was unfair. I happen to like Hangar 9 planes.

I do not claim to be an "expert" RC Maniac. Only far from it.

I started looking at this thread because I wanted to read something about a new plane that was coming out from Hangar 9. Instead all I read was a bunch of posts from guys bashing the plane. Most claiming to be "Pro Bros". "Tangfago" as you put it is insulting to me, (and since I don't speak for others) I didn't like commets like that, or as baronpilot put it "Fagno". There must be a "Bros" thread somewhere where you can talk about the "Tangfago" and how terrible it is. I didn't see anything at the beginning of the thread or title that made this plane a comparision to profile planes. Again I must be mistaken.

If my signature insulted your wife remcle1 I apoligize to her as well. I will change it for her soon.:D

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The wing has no dihedral, and is completely simitrical. There would be no self-righting capability, which is necessary for a beginning pilot. Therefore, this would not be suitable as a primary trainer, and doubtful as even a second plane. The design looks to be less forgiving than a Tiger 2 or 4-Star.

I don't think everybody who purchases this would be that highly interested in 3D. The thick airfoil on that high wing, though, would make this a good plane for fields with tall grass landing strips. I especially like the idea of its maneuverability for tighter areas. Thick tundra tires would do this machine some good, and certainly a set of skis for the winter. I would not mind seeing a float version too.

NorfolkSouthern

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You said you started to look at this thread because you wanted to read something about the plane. The plane is not out yet. If you can't give an opioion on the design or marketing of the plane what is left?

Yes there is a place Bros can talk about how crappy this plane is and how Hanger nine is performing a disservice to its custormers by marketing it as a 3D plane. One place is right here. Not all opinions and reviews of planes need to be positive. You call it bashing. I just call them as I see them. The other place is the Pro Bro website. Don't discount the knowledge and the abilities fo the Brotherhood. You will find lots of great information on that forum. Information from guys that are actually performing incredible 3D not just talking about it.

Sorry if putting the word fag in the name of the plane offended you, but it was directed at the plane not you. We need to have a little fun here.

You did not offend my wife, she bearly weighs 100 pounds. I think it was funny. I was only pointing out your hypocricy.

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Maybe it's a beginners 3d plane? I don't know maybe you guys do. It's certainly not a Mojo I have to agree. It would be a sport plane to me anyway. I have a twist 150 with a Saito 180 and it's a sport plane for me also. Although most of you guys could probably hover it and do some crazy stuff with it. I like it a lot and it's really fun to fly. I would like to see someone mount the Saito 180 on a Mojo and then fly it. That would be interesting:D.

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I have to agree with Snacker and the rest of the guys that like hangar 9 planes as well as other manufacturers. Unline these guys, I have owned and flown a Mojo and loved it, was a great flying and performing plane. However, like these guys, I also enjoy flying sport planes, Mojo wannabe planes, and nice slow planes. Would hate to think that my whole flying world revolved solely upon profile 3D machines and I had to travel in small groups putting down the rest of the manufacturers because they build variety! May go out and but a TANGO just to see you guys spin out of control, stomp your feet, stick your bottom lips out, and throw a good ole' temper tantrum about it.

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Happy, comments are made about the design of the tango and what Hanger 9 says it will do. Not all of hanger 9's planes are junk. This thread is about the Tango not any other plane. I don't have only profiles. I have no problem with you going out and buying a Tango. I am sure it will fly fine. Just don't buy it because H9 says it is a good 3D plane.

I see you are about 1 hour and 10 minutes north of me. We are having our 4th annual Pro-Bro fly in on December 1st and 2nd. Come on down and enjoy the fun. It is not exclusive to profiles. If you love to fly, you are welcome. PM me if you want more information.

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Looking at Horizon site this is what it says about the Tango:

"The Tango 40 ARF from Hangar 9 is a .40-size airplane capable of sport and 3D performance. Because of the stability provided by the high wing placement, the Tango is an excellent, unintimidating fun flyer."

Sounds like it might be fun to me. "3D performance" doesn't sound like it's targeting or trying to compete with the profile type planes.

IMHO