RE: Tango ARF
 

Hey Snacker...you did'nt read the second paragraph of the Tango propaganda::

For instance, the light wing loading and oversized control surfaces allow for incredible 3D maneuvers. From hovers to harriers to knife-edge loops, the Tango can handle just about any aerobatic maneuver thrown its direction—including its signature aptitude for amazing, flat spins. Using a Saito™ .72, the Tango can run tight ten-foot loops and—unlike some fun-fly planes—full-throttle high-speed runs. It’ll hover and torque-roll down to head high. On low rates with low power settings, the Tango demonstrates stable slow-speed characteristics and very gentle stalls.

As I stated before.........the obvious target market are guys fairly new to RC, that have big dreams about making their birds dance, without the skills, or the know how to do it!!

This bird is an obvious 3D failure, and should not be marketed as such. SHAME ON HANGER 9!!

RE: Tango ARF
 

WOW THE TANGO MAY BE THE NEXT HANGAR-9 PTS TRAINER !!!!!!THAT CAN GET PEOPLE INTO THE HOBBIE :D:D:D

IF WE ALL HAD THE SAME PLANE WHAT FUN WOULD THAT BE ????

I AM GLAD TO SEE NEW IDEAS AND SOMEONE WILLING TO GO OUT AND DO IT !! AS WELL AS THE TRIED AND TRUE PLANES !!

IF WE KEEP FIGHTING EACH OTHER .THIS CAN TURN PEOPLE OFF FROM OUR GREAT HOBBIE OR HAVE THEM GET A RC TRUCK INSTEAD. SORRY FOR BEING SO HARD ON PEOPLE HERE LETS ENJOY WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR PLANES!!!!!!!!!! AND SAY ABOUT WHAT MY PLANE DID

I MYSELF HAVE A TWIST P-N-P STOLE THE ENGINE TO PUT ON MY MUSTANG:D PUT THE TRAINER ENGINE OFF THE MUSTANG ON THE TWIST !ALMOST THE SAME SET UP I LEARNED ALOT ABOUT PROPS DOING THIS A 2ND YEAR PILOT!!

FOR ME TO DO 3D THE BEST PLANE I FOUND IS THE TYPHOON 2 AND ABLE TO FLY AT HOME TO BOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS FALCONGT

RE: Tango ARF
 

So, ya'll mean to say that the Twist, Tribute, and all them other thick simitrical airfoil jobbers are BEGINNER planes? Are they trainers? Can a beginner who's never even touched a similator just go out and buy a Tango and fly it without a buddy box? Well jeeze. I guess that's what I'll recommend for a primary trainer then. By golly, I guess they just fly themselves right out of the box. I bet a stack of Mojos would be just grand for a second plane too.

NorfolkSouthern

RE: Tango ARF
 

If anyone in thier right mind would think that this is a 3D plane then go ahead. A beginner would not get this plane to start with. A seasoned 3D flyer would not get this to take to a competition. It looks like it might be a great float plane (I think someone already mentioned that). Why come on a thread and start bashing everything in sight that isn't a profile. I am not the type to get into an "argument" on this great forum but this seems a bit out of line.

Sorry if I pizzed off the brotherhood or anyone else. Just my $0.02

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All right folks, I've had several complaints about this thread and I must say there are specific area of a lot of posts that are borderline insulting and degrading to quite a few people. I am politely asking that the name calling and such back off as well as the certain terms to peoples life style (ie where they live).

If this cannot stop and right now I will lock this thread as it would take way too much to clean it up. This will be the only warning and any threads that may be started if this thread does get locked will meet with the same fate once it goes off the deep end

Ok so lets get this back on the subject of the plane and keep it civil and well within the rules, thanks

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I'm sorry if I cause anyone any grief. That wasn't my intention.

I still think this plane is interesting and might want to get one as a sport plane.

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wow that was intertaing to read. you guys even got the moderater on you butts, NAUGTY NAUGTY, (gotta love Borat).

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I must say thought that the video does not do this plane much justace. Look at the Showtime 4D 90 video. That plane can 3D!!! I watched that video and bought the plane the next day. For them to try and market this as a "3D" plane i'd at least like to see a torque roll "head high". Just my opinion.
-Matt

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This is the epitome of why this forum really doesn't allow freedom of speech. Let us bash our brothers opinions...we can buy them beer later. Who the heck is complaining about this thread? "Whah! My feelings got hurt. My Kadet felt like it was violated! Don't make the sponsors mad! Waaah! Waaah! Waaaaaaaaahh!"

Hesuse Christay. Rules.

This plane is a hunk of junk, and H9 is taking advantage of the innocent people that buy it!! Twist included!! We must stand up as an RC community and bash the non flying RC'ers that make up the marketing department, reaping profit sharing checks off of our subsequent decisions to buy their crap!

Stop the censorship threats just to placate your sponsors. They can post on here just as easy as I can (maybe, for not as long) to defend their sweatshops.

Just give me a real 3D plane...you can find them at the ****************** dot com. Come to the dark side. I dare you.

RE: Tango ARF
 

A profile 3D plane is great. But I've also seen Twists, and many other varieties all the way down to small electrics. They are all entertaining to watch. I saw a Seagull Harrier today, it was just incredible, the color combination on that machine makes it stand out like a blue tang in a saltwater fish tank. And it just does everything so nicely:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=475

A 3D pilot I am not, I will probably never go that direction. I'm looking for something that will fly the pattern, go where I point it. I want something that doesn't require much of a landing strip, yet will still keep up with the Cubs, Alphas, and Twists that I just happen to be sharing the skies with. At the same time, I want something that will let me do stuff I could NEVER get away with on my Cessna or Hobbico Superstar. The Tango looks different, unique, a bit controversial. I'll bet Hangar 9 is gonna sell a bunch of these, just because they generate so much strife on the forums!

NorfolkSouthern

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Ok. Everyone just buy a Mojo cause baronpilot says so.[sm=redface.gif]

RE: Tango ARF
 

he is hypin the mojo more than hangar 9 is the twist. When is the last time a hangar 9 rep went into a fourm for a competitor's products and bashed them and then also hyped theirs? it does not happen. If hangar 9 made such trash then they would not be in buesness. people act like powerhouse sellers are evil. well let me tell you something. they got that way because they made a good product at a cheep price and people bought them. Over time the companie grew through word of mouth that they make good planes. Finaly they could afford advertisement, more R&D people. They can also sponser a select few who make this great hobby their profession. Plus you don't think hangar-9 actually desighns the planes them selves do you? they have people who do that and then hangar-9 puts it into production on a mass scale. Maybe the tango is a POS. but hey i'm shure the first design of the Mojo is not the one you see online for sale. It's had tweeks and additions. Look at the pizzaz and the twist. The pizzaz did not have a removable wing and it did not have tail mounted servos. It did not sell a lot but people saw that a removable wing and tail mounted servos would be a great plus. The pizzaz got discontiued and the twist came out. now i bet it's hard to find a feild out there that does not have a member who owns one version of the twist. Now i'm not saying the Mojo is a crappy plane. I'm just saying that hangar-9 did not just appeir as this evil empire of the hobby world. It got to were it is today through good products and service witch really goes along way in the consumer world. Hey if you don't like the Tango, don't buy it. Thats the great thing about the country we live in. there are alot of different options to chose from. some maybe terrible for some but a perfict match for others. If all we had were Mojos to 3D with then what would we be? a bunch of commie conformists. :-)
Just my 2 cents.

-Matt

RE: Tango ARF
 

This thread is about the Tango. Lets keep it about the Tango.

I want you guys to defend Hanger 9 advertising and this plane based on facts. When I say facts, I mean wing loading, aspect ratio, and how will you use the needed engine to get the necessary thrust to weight ratio and stay within an acceptable wing loading for this to be a 3D machine.


Call it bashing if you will, but my opinion of this plane is that it will fly around just fine, but it will take an advanced pilot to 3D it, and that is not who they are marketing such a plane to.

RE: Tango ARF
 

I'm a beginner and I've met a few other beginners. None, myself included, could 3D any plane including the Tango I'm sure. I thought most all 3D moves would have to be done by a more advanced pilot. Especially if your doing them a few feet from the ground.

Is there any other plane that advertises that a beginner to intermediate can do 3D?

RE: Tango ARF
 

That's kind of like asking if there are any skates that will allow a beginner to do figure skating.

To learn at low altitudes, get a profile foamy. Otherwise get a good 3D nitro plane (profile or otherwise) and keep it up high.

RE: Tango ARF
 

I'm a H9 rep trying to make profilers look like the criminals they really are.

RE: Tango ARF
 

Yes,

The burrito is advertised as a 3D beginner plane. It has a constant chord wing that does not stall at the wing tips like the taper wing planes. It is very stable. The down side of a stable plane is that it is harder to whip around and do more advanced 3D moves. The tail is not as loose as some other planes making it a 3D trainer.

If only advanced pilots can do 3D, then how did advanced pilots get their start? With the right plane, the right setup, and the right teaching anyone can 3D. It is not that hard.

RE: Tango ARF
 

Come out here and give me some lessons then. I like burritos, big fan of the bean ones,[:@] Pffft...excuse me.

Seriously, I'd like to 3d but I still would like to sport fly more than anything.

RE: Tango ARF
 

Once again Snacker....you have proven that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

The whole purpose of this thread is a discussion on the Tango's inability to do what the manufacture says it excels at, and several pilots with massive skills and 3D knowledge have tried to point out that the facts do not support the claims!

You have stated several times in this thread that you cannot fly 3D, and yet you defend the Tango, Twist, and other H9 3D failures....... like they are your personal designs!

This thread, like the Pizzaz, Twist, and Tango..should just quietly dis-appear!!![:@]

RE: Tango ARF
 

I belive this thread started out asking if anyone has flowen the Tango Yet, not about its inabilities, but maybe it abilities. Very few people have even seen the Tango, yet everyone has there comments on how it flies. There are things you can tell about a plane by looking at the weight and airfoil but I belive the proof is in the pudding. I have flowen the Tango and its more 3D then I like, im more of a sports flyer, But I would like to here from someone who has had hands on with the plane, and there take on its ability.

RE: Tango ARF
 

Guys, this is interesting stuff, but off on a tangent a bit. The Tango as well as the Twist are not supposed to be hard core 3D airplanes, they are sport aerobatic/3D airplanes. They do some things really well. But the scope of either design was never to be an all out 3D model.
IMHO, the Tango is more fun than the Twist, though both are fun airplanes. The Tango does some really unique and fun stuff. I had a ball with it. But comparing to super lightweight 3D profiles or fluffy light models is apples to flashlights.

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Like Snaker, goplaneman, and MMcConville, I have no interest in hard-core 3D. Sorry RCManiac, Baronpilot, etc. I just care for a decent sport plane, one that looks reasonably attractive at the field and will go with the flow of traffic. And yes, will do some tight maneuvers and land/takeoff at slow speeds. Engines and electronics are expensive for me, and I just feel safer keeping all that gadgetry close by. The Tango looks like it'll fill that niche just perfect. And the one I saw (and will probably buy) looks like a good candidate for skis and floats, too. This may be a "jack of all trades" type of plane, and I'd like to see more common sense info without the RANTS from the bros.

NorfolkSouthern

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Love the Twist 150 Mike. I might have to check out the Tango.:D

I like your designs.[sm=thumbs_up.gif] Thanks for the confirmation and keep up the good work!

RE: Tango ARF
 

Thanks!

RE: Tango ARF
 

OK, now that we're on topic here, I would like to know a little more about this plane. What are the stall characteristics? How is its stability in level flight? How well can it be slowed down while remaining airborne? Does it have good carrying capacity should someone wish to mount a video cam some place? Does Horizon plan to eventually offer skis and floats? Would this plane be suitable for a rough grass field rather than a paved strip? What skill level is it designed for? Is a computer radio with exponential a requirement for setup? Any info you can give would be appreciated, MMcConville. Yes, I AM interested in this model, it looks to be very unique, and capable of doing a lot of stuff.

NorfolkSouthern