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A computer radio isnt necessary, but same as with any model, expo, rates will give you a better flying model. Stall characteristics and stability are similar to the Twist. It is not a trainer and doesnt have any self-righting charicteristics. Its a symmetrical wing with no dihedral, low aspect so it doent damp a lot in roll, i.e. a fast roll rate if you want. Hard to quantify how it slows down and remains flying. Much like a Twist 40. CG of the model will effect that as well.
Any plane this size is not the best candidate for an on-board camera. Additional weight is never a godo thing.
The Hangar 9 40 size Cub floats will work, you would have to modify a little to get the correct fuse angle.
Dubro makes some nice injection molded skiis tha would be perfect for it.
The most unique characteristic of the Tango is the rudder raction. It generates a lot of roll and after you get used to it you can do a lot of interesting indescribable maneuvers with it.
As for simple 3D (hovering etc) it has planty of rudder and elevator authority so as long as you have good power and the skills to hover, its fine. Like the Twist, roll authority in hi-alpha (harrier roll) is not huge. Not like a pure-bred 3D design. Ailerons do decay as the angle of attack increases. No mote than the Twist though.
Hope this helps.

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Is it just my perception or are the "real" 3D guys getting as elitist and snobbish as pattern guys? This isn't a 3D plane. That isn't a 3D plane. Jeeeezz. You guys need to lighten up. This is supposed to be fun and you are making up rules on what is what.

I think I'll go buy me a Tango 3D plane! Sounds like it would be fun.

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MMcConville: Would you recommend the Tango as a second, or third plane? My experience after flying trainers is with a scale Cessna 182. The plane loses aileron effectiveness with insufficient airspeed and will tip-stall. However, it does well as long as proper throttle management is used and the plane is kept above that threshold. Friends have told me that a plane like the Tango or Twist is generally easier to fly than a trainer for a pilot with some experience, even if that experience is somewhat limited. Any takers? Should I consider a Tiger 2 instead, if I want something less demanding than my Cessna?

NorfolkSouthern

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the nice thing about a twist or tango is that they go where you point them and they are much more responsive. with that being said, they don't have self righting properties that make trainers so nice. If this is your first tail dragger i would not recomend it. Build and fly a 4*40 or a pulse. With my pizzaz it's alot tougher to handle on take off then the fourstar. One nice thing is that the take off distance of the pizzaz is very short but with a 91 surpass there is alot of p factor involved so you need to add alot of right rudder. If you have tail dragger expeireance, then buy all means get the tango. Looks like fun!
-Matt

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I'll preface buy saying this again: I'm a beginner and don't know a whole lot. However, I own a trainer and Twist 150. I have soloed both. There's not a huge amount of difference in landings between the two. Both float in slowly in my opinon and are easy to land. Difference is if I make a mistake with the Twist on landing my corrections would have to be much faster and more precise. The good part about landing with the Twist is if you have to abort on landing the engine has plenty of power to pull you out of trouble. I can't say that for my trainer. I think that the Tango might be similiar to the twist for landings. Mr. McConville is the expert here, he designed both and has probably flown both for countless hours.

I haven't flown the Tango but the Twist is awesome with a Saito 180.:)

(the above statements should only be considered as opinion and by no means should be considered as factual evidence of anything except the part about Mr. McConville)[sm=wink_smile.gif]

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No taildragger experience here, so I guess that reduces the likelihood of a purchase significantly. I have been looking at a Lanier Stinger 40 ARF: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXSVE5&P=7 and using that for my .40 LA engine. There isn't much available for a friction bearing .40 sized engine, unfortunately, and I have two of them. So far, I see no parts availability or PDF manual for the Stinger. The model is so new that it's not even listed in RCUniverse. I'm hoping that will be fixed soon.

Regarding the Tango: I would still like to hear more from MMcConville about the possibility of transitioning to a fully symmetrical taildragger eventually, and which approach would be best.

NorfolkSouthern

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I think this plane is the eptiome of a "Fun Flyer". I got mine, had it ready to fly in two evenings, and it may well turn out to be one of my favorite planes to just taxi out of the shop when the wind is down and fly in my back yard. I am using an OS Max .55AX, which is just right for lazy flying at 5,500 feet here in Southern Colorado. It also served as a test bed for my new Spectrum-7 system. I don't care if it advertised as "3D' capable...I am well beyond the current addiction to 3D that has hit the younger crowd. Just another opinion, but based on actually buying and flying the plane!!

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retnavycdr,
Where did you put the CG for fun flying? I have mine at 4 3/4", seems more set up for 3D.

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Wow! That is some "backyard" you have. :)

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I would recomment the Pulse XT as a second airplane. It is a little better for ground handleing and slower on response in the air. Still had good roll rate but not ballistic like the Tango or Twist can be with a lot of throw.

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CG on mine is at 4.5 inches. right in the center of the recommended 4 to 5 inches in the manual. My back yard is twenty acres of grassy pastures. Unfortunately my wife keeps putting her horses in these pastures! They are not the least bit bothered by the planes but when I first started flying here at home they thought they were vultures or hawks. Now they don't even look up at them.

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Sounds like many people are having a good time with this plane. It does look like it will fun fly real well. This is the kind of plane anyone can have fun with. I like to keep similar planes around for those times when you want an inexpensive plane for the "how low can you go inverted" type stuff. I bet it is rock solid inverted while running it inches above the ground all the way down the runway. Most sport planes in this class are low or shoulder wing (tiger 2, 4 star, etc.). The Tango does stand out.

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Thanks for confirming what you've been saying???!!!

Give me a break! Several others, including me, have been saying this all throughout this thread. All you had to say was bad-mouthing the plane and trying to compare to a profile plane for some unknown reason!

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How does this plane stack up against a good old Modelteck Magic?
Ron

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Plane looks like fun. Anyone got one of these who previously or currently owns a Twist? I just wondered how the flying capabilities compare.

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You guys need to back up....several of us have NOT been trashing the plane for it's sport capabilities. We have been trying to convince you new guys that H9 is trying to pass this thing off as a 3D Monster when it clearly IS NOT!!!!

SO...........you guys enjoys the Tango, I'm sure it will fly the pattern just fine.:D

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I never thought it was a 3D monster and I don't think it was marketed to cut into the profile plane sector. I don't think anyone thought that, except for a few Bros who thought us beginners and maybe more advanced pilots were to dumb to know the difference.

I'm a beginner and I'm not even that smart :Dbut I knew the difference. Is anyone getting educated here because of what the Bros are saying?

Maybe your afraid of showing up at the field and find all your fellow Bros are flying Tangos.

Pro Bro Tango.....Hey that rhymes!

(only the author's opinion in the above statements)

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YOU need to back up... you "PRO BROS" are the only one's that think this is supposed to be an all out 3D plane, competing against your sacred MOJO. Everyone else here sees it for what it is, a cool new fun-fly/sport plane. Even the "new guys" here are smart enough to know that... so what's that say for you?

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You need to go back and read this thread. I never brought up any comparison of this plane to any other. This thread was started by asking about the plane. The plane was not out yet, so only comments about its design and its description could be made. I gave my opinion about its design and the description given by H9. When I gave a negative opinion about the design of this plane in regards to its 3D capabilities and only its 3D capability, I was accused of bashing the plane.

I am sure Mike Mc could 3D this plane and I am sure I could too, but I still stand by my original opinion that this plane should not be bought as a 3D plane.

Give me a break and Stop putting text in my fingers.


Not everyone can agree and when someone disagrees it is not bashing, it is an opinion.

BTW, I don't fly a MOJO. I have had one in the past and it is a fine plane. I have a home designed scratch built job that is a 3D monster. I also have a 50cc fatty ARF, a combat plane, and a few assorted electrics.

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WOW! Do you think so??!!! We all stand back in AWE of your skills! :eek:

As stated SEVERAL times before, even the newbies are smart enough to know that.

But thanks to all of you "PRO BROS" for stating this obvious fact to the rest of us.

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I don't know why I feel like I need to defend myself against your attacks, but I guess that is human nature.

Why can't you understand that I am entitled to my opinion no matter how obvious it is? If it is so obvious, why are you attacking me for saying it. If it is obvious and you agree with it, why are you attacking me?

What did I ever say or do to you?

Take a look at the vid on my website. You may not be at awe, but you will recognize that I do know 3d and I do know what I am talking about.

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Look at your videos, they were great. I don't fly 3D, but I enjoyed watching.

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Hey guys, just got back from the field after a full day with the Tango and find it to be a snappy sport flier, it might be made to 3D but its forte is sport. It flies all aerobatic manuvers with authority, and rolls like a pinwheel in a hurricane! Low time pilots should set the low rates to 80% of the rates in the manual until you are used to it then crank em up! My CG is @4.5" and flies great there. It is a floater and if you dont slow it down on landing it will fly on by. In short it is just "plane" fun!

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Thanks goplaneman.


Planepounder,

How was it inverted?. Will it track straight and stay in a relatively stable altitude. Not sure if the high wing is suited to real low inverted fly bys. Let us know. Glad you like it.

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Hey goplaneman, it flew well inverted. With the CG where it is it was neutral to slightly nose heavy which is the way I like em. I tracks well but it is not as at home inverted as say a mid or low wing. Still it is no problem to make low passes upside down. Also it was windy today (15-20mph) not exactly ideal to really say how it does.