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Miloh 10-26-2003 06:02 PM

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Hay Jim In asking what system I ment are you using pull pull or a single control rod configuration.

Sorry bout that. the 625 mg would seem to be strong enough. how much deflection are you using?

Miloh.

cootertwo 10-26-2003 06:14 PM

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Sorry, don't have a scale to weigh my planes. I figure if they get off the ground, then they ain't too heavy! Ha Ha! But I will try to borrow a scale this week. Jim, it might just be that the .75 doesn't have enough umph to hold it up in a knife edge. I'm still longing for something that will do knife edge loops. That takes a lot of power to weight ratio.;)

Burrito Bandito 10-26-2003 06:16 PM

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Got out and tried again to see what the adjustment on the elevator did.

Conditions: Very cool and overcast. Winds out of the west/northwest creating very tricky crosswind at about 10 - 15. I did not play with CG as the window of opportunity was fading. Plane balanced right now at 4 3/8" from leading edge which is the rearward position of range. I think it needs to be at about 4 - 41/8 for my tastes and this will be adjusted before next weekend.

First flight was great. Noticable difference in upline performance with newley adjusted elevator halves. Thanks David. As I said, CG will be moved forward a little per Basinbum's post. Thanks Basin. Never got past 2/3 throttle, and that was when I just wanted to play a little. Taking it pretty easy getting to know this plane and the radio. First landing was uneventful if not a little wobbly....crosswinds.

Second flight was great too, but I made the mistake of taking out some of the expo on the elevator. While flying the wind really came up and was straight out of the west (crosswind for our field). Five approaches and I was chasing it all over the place with the elevator and trying to keep it level from the crosswind. Got it down in one piece though. Lesson: Keep the expo up for a while! Saito 91 ran flawlessly and so quiet I thought it was dead a couple of times.

For the gentleman who was asking about the 120. I agree with Diablo kid. This is a plane designed to groove the IMAC sequences. It will fly with a 120. I know, because I did it. Mine was a brick though and it was none too enjoyable for my style of flying. There is also a question in my mind about long-term structural integrity with a big engine like that. The firewall is only 3/16". Cooter does fine with his, but it was too much for me. This is a really fun plane and a looker at the field. I spend more time spreading the word on Vector Flight than I do flying!

Pics to follow........


Waiting......[X(]

jmc012 10-26-2003 06:20 PM

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Miloh
I'm using the single control rod, I never actually measured the deflection although it seems like quite a bit. I guess that would be about the only thing to try, see if I can get more deflection out of it ?

By the way, your right on their customer service !! It's really awesome. One thing I would recommend is reinforcement of the landing gear plate, it will break off quick on a slightly hard landing. I put an extra sheet of ply on there and my next hard landing after my engine quit just bent my landing gear a little, much easier to fix.
Jim

Burrito Bandito 10-26-2003 06:22 PM

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Taxi Out

Miloh 10-26-2003 06:24 PM

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You probably don't need more deflection but a stouter setup like pull pull, but as cootertwo says it may also be a little low on power.

Miloh.

jmc012 10-26-2003 06:24 PM

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Cooter

So your's does good knife edges ? It looks like you probably have about twice the power that I do.
Jim

jmc012 10-26-2003 06:27 PM

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Thanks Miloh, I didn't think about the control rod not being strong enough. I think I will look into that along with more power this spring.

Burrito Bandito 10-26-2003 06:27 PM

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Take off roll........Our lady of reliable engines be with me

Burrito Bandito 10-26-2003 06:31 PM

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Low Flyby

Burrito Bandito 10-26-2003 06:35 PM

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Second landing....[&:]......managed to keep it running though:)

Last one....I promise

Miloh 10-26-2003 06:41 PM

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Looking good John Happy for you bud, and even happier for me when I hear a good flight report.

Jim Please understand!! I have not even flown this plane yet I'm just going on experience with my GP .60 extra it was same weight and span and would not knife before I put a pull pull on it. Or was it a push pull ?? Mine was set up with 4-40 rods instead of cables. very effective.
Check out this piece of equipment, It's setting here just waiting for my extra to get here. I also used the same for elevators, these will be on every plane I own from now on unless somthing better comes along.


Miloh.

Miloh 10-26-2003 06:48 PM

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Jim.

Check this link for the controll surface heavy duty horns.


http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...0.70.205.0.0.0

Miloh.

jmc012 10-26-2003 06:49 PM

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Miloh
Looks like it would be a good improvement, I will have to give it a try ! By the way, I just ordered a extra, I liked the Edge so much I thought I better try out the Extra also while they are so cheap.
Jim

Miloh 10-26-2003 06:51 PM

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Jim.

Well as I say I have never flown one yet but from what I hear they are a good deal at the regular price. I would get another one for myself but I'm
working on saving for somthing in the 80 inch range.


Miloh.

cootertwo 10-26-2003 07:02 PM

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My Edge with a Magnum 1.20 4 stroke will knife edge, and hold it pretty well, at full throttle. However it won't pull a knife edge loop. I like the 4 strokes for their reliability and easy starting/tuning, but their power to weight ratio is pretty bad. Now with a hot 2 stroke in the 1.20 range, after beefing up the firewall, the Edge would probably do anything you asked it to. Perhaps I'll try it someday. Right now, I got tied up with helicopters (it's a curse), and they are taking all my money!:D

jmc012 10-26-2003 07:03 PM

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Miloh

Thanks for the advice, I just moved up from a trainer, so I still have alot to learn. I think I will stick with this size of airplane for a year or so and then move up to something a little bigger. Just big enough to put a gas engine on it, I'm tired of paying $15 a gallon for glow fuel !
Thanks again
Jim

jmc012 10-26-2003 07:10 PM

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Thanks Cooter, sounds like I need to just give it up if your 1.20 will only hold it at full
throttle.

Miloh 10-26-2003 07:11 PM

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Hay Jim:

How much fuel has been run through your ST and how is it propped? I have a ST .75 myself and it is very strong. If yours is new and not broken yet it will get better as you go along. I had mine on an ultra stick ,60 that weighed every bit of 8 pounds and it would knife very well. It would hover to but not pull out like a rocket. It wes proped with a 13x6 and did pull a 14x6 on a H9 182 with a 64 inch WS that went like a rocket in normal flight. of course it will never pull it like a .91. How much does your edge weigh in at? And was it you asking before about the .75 fitting inside the cowl? And did it?

Miloh.

Miloh 10-26-2003 07:15 PM

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Hay cooter how much does it weigh? My .91 tigershark would hold my GP extra up on knife at about 3/4 throttle and it was in the 9 1/2 pound range. Is my .91 going to be enough for the VF??

Miloh.

jmc012 10-26-2003 07:28 PM

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Miloh

I have run about 10 tanks of fuel through it, it does seem to be getting stronger everytime I fly it. I'm real happy with the engine ! I'm running a 12x8 prop on it, do you think it would do better with the 13x6 ? I haven't put the cowl on yet, but I looked at it and the head would fit under the cowl with no problem, I need to get that done. I haven't weighed it so I'm not sure of the weight. It should be on the light side since I'm running a smaller engine.
Jim

Miloh 10-26-2003 07:37 PM

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Hay Jim the 12x8 is not far from the 13x6 as far as how it taxes the motor, Actually it would be the same as a 13x7. do you know what kind of RPM's it's turning with the 12x8. I suppose it does not slow down very good with an 8 pitch prop on it. the 13x6 would help it slow a little for landings and still let the motor be up in the power a little. this is good for getting back in the power if you need to at the last min.

Miloh.

Miloh 10-26-2003 07:46 PM

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Jim I also ment to tell you that my SuperTiger weighs in at just 7 ounces less than my .91 TigerShark. If you look at post 179 you can see them both side by side. This is the .91 I had on my GP extra and it pull the snot out of that plane.
These TigerSharks are very stout and cheap at $99.00.

Miloh.

Tracon 10-26-2003 07:48 PM

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Hi Guys,

Just got back in from two more totally awesome flights, I reduced the aileron throw a little more to 40% and wow she's much easier to handle now...

as promised I have some pictures from yesterday...

This first one is me with "Sammy's Girl II"...

Tracon 10-26-2003 07:51 PM

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Another shot of her on the tarmac...


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