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RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
Calflyer,
I have put an OS 1.20 in my vector Flight Extra 66". It flies really nice!!! It is a great engine airplane combination. |
RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
Thanks Mr. G.
I have been eyeing my 1.20 surpass for a while. I bet it sounds and pulls great. |
RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
CalFlyer,
I put a slimline muffler in mine which is an OS 1.20 surpass (pumped). It really does sound great and flies even better. Has almost unlimited vertical, If I vertical up too far it tends to torque to the side just a little. You will love it in your VF 66" Extra. |
RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
Mr G, thanks for the advice. The firewall seems sturdy enough as it is, but I will try to paint some epoxy along the inside edges just in case. Already have the tailplane wire struts in place, I do that with all my airplanes. Other than that the weight of the 1.20 seems just a tad over the 90 FX and think I should be able to adjust by moving the Rx batt back a few inches. Cant wait to hear that deep growl and low end pull from the 1.20 4 stroker! Thanks for the information.
Calflyer |
RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
Opinions please,
I have 2 NIB engines and one is going on VF Extra 300s 60 size and the other is going on Ultra stick 60 size. Engines are Magnum .91xls and the other is Saito FA100. Which goes where? Also you guys running standard servos on you VF extras? (Futaba 3004's). Thanks |
RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
I havnt assembled my edge yet. How heavy did your plane come up to with the 120 in it. Ive got a new ENYA 120 pumped in a box waiting to go somewhere. It could go in the 72" tiger moth that i'm currently building ( if I beef it up ) or in the edge. What do you think? If I could get 200 feet of vertical with the 90fs it would satisfy me.
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RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
Hay td350:
I use the 3004's in my VF 300 and they work great, The control surfaces are large but the plane is so responsive with very little throw that a lot of servo power has not been needed. These VF planes are not 3D beast. as far as the motor goes either one will work fine on either plane. I have a .91 two stroke on my 300 and it leaps off the ground like a monster. Is your Extra the 66" or 58"? I had a .75 on my ultra stick and it was a freak too so you are well equiped with either motor on either plane. You will enjoy both of these birds. My .91 comes in at 34 ozs. and the extra balanced without any extra weight by moving the battery pack to the back of the radio compartment so balance will not be a problem either. good luck and let us know what you decide and how it goes. Miloh. |
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I am putting a Mag .91 fs in my 58 inch Extra.. Hope I am not way
overpowering it. Do like lots of vertical in my planes though ;-] |
RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
Avngr:
What does the 1.20 weigh? My 66" came up to just under 8 lbs with a .91 2stroker that weighs in at 34 ozs and I'd think the 1.20 is probably lighter so you shouldn't be to heavy and vertical will be good I'd think. Miloh. |
RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
Miloh,
Thanks for the response,my extra is the 66" version. I'm leaning towards the Saito for it. A little more realistic as far as scale goes. It may be a little while before the Extra gets its maiden. I have two planes in line ahead if it. (ultra stik 60 and a kyosho cap 232 55" wingspan with a Os 61fx), but I will surely let you all know. Also getting into club combat, so I'm spread a little thin. Weather is finally starting to break around here, (Southern Wisconsin). I hop t get to the field tomorrow to fly a SPAD plane with skis. This is a great thread and was my intro to VF planes back in Nov 03. Glad I stumbled across it. I've been watching for a while and haven't seen anything negative about VF planes. I put in a request to RCU to put VF in their product guide, to date only 1 response for the VF extra and one for the sukoi. Get some more responses on there to get the VF name out there! My VF extra is still in the box, but looks great. Pacing myself, patience you know... Thanks for the info and keep it coming! Todd |
RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
Put the Saito 100 in the Vector Flight, you will be glad you did. Extras fly better when they have alot of power.
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RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
I bought the 66" Edge based on everything I had read here:D. This is my first plane of this size and I'd like to know if anyone is using the e/z connectors or if anyone has any opinion on using them. Since this is the first plane of this size for me, I am curious since I've used the e\z connectors on my smaller birds and have never had a failure with them. Will they hold up or should I just stay with the metal clevis that was supplied?
Thanks for any comments and/or opinions, |
RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
What are e/z connectors?
Miloh. |
RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
These are e/z connectors from Du-Bro. These are what I use on my smaller birds. Will they be safe to use on my 66" VF Edge? Maybe I should just stick to the metal clevis supplied.
http://users.zoominternet.net/~vancevp/connectors.jpg |
RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
You can use them on the throttle, but it's not a good idea on the control surfaces as they introduce a few more things that can go wrong!
-David C. |
RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
I believe the enya 120 weighs 32.5 oz. It doesnt say if thats with the muffler which is very light.
As i'm building (... ahem.. assembling and painting ) the 72" tiger moth I am realizing its the same size as the phaeton 90 I built years ago. That bipe was underpowered with a 90 fs ( eventually it got a ST 3000) so I think ( for now ) the tiger will get the 120. I have a reluctance to put the VF in the air. Im using 46 size planes to practice with. I have to figure with the heavy wing loading i have in a pheonix sukhoui, the VF is going to be a better flier. Not that the lil suk is bad, its a tough little bird. |
RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
I agree, use these for throttle ONLY!!!
The forces on the pushrods of a larger plane are significantly higher. I would hate for you to lose a Vector Flight airplane because of in inapropriate use of an easy connector. Use the supplied hardware. Keepem flyin;) |
RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
If you can handle a .46 size plane the VF 300 should be no problem. Mine floats in like a trainer if I line up good and straight on a nice glide path and just pull out of the throttle, it will float a lot further that youd expect the first time you try it. just keep the wings level and don't let it stop in the air. if it gets to slow just feed it a little left stick and it will settle nicely.
Miloh. |
RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
I finally got my VF 58" Extra in the mail - very nice! I've starting hinging and putting it together beginning at the back.
I have a couple of questions for those of you who've put this baby together that I don't recall having been answered in previous posts .. 1) Did you take off some covering and epoxy in a fillet UNDERNEATH the horix stab on each side of the fuse? I think it would look terrible and be hard to paint/cover to match the stripe it would likely wipe out. I used some tri balsa and put a fillet on top only. 2) They seem to highly recommend wire reinforcement of the tail surfaces. How many people actually did that, and for those that did not, can you still do reasonable IMAC stuff? I don't really plan to do wild things like blenders/etc for quite a while - but need good knifeedge, etc. 3) If you did end up putting wires on the tail, can you describe the parts used? I'm looking at 2-56 threaded rod, metal clevises, and some bolts through the surfaces with maybe little metal landing-gear straps bent 45-deg or so to hook from clevises to bolts. Seem reasonable? Overkill? I wondered if the metal clevises were really meant for tension/load like that. 4) How far out should wire struts be span-wise, and where on the chord of the surface? I'm looking at perhaps 30-40% out spanwise and about 50% of the fixed-surface chord. 5) Finally, when mounting my Saito 91 on its side (head left when looking from front) my throttle arm is on top. Their hole is on the bottom - obviously cant use that. But the corresponding location behind the throttle arm on top is above the "box" they use to extend the fuselage 2 inches. Anyone have a good linkage technique? Thanks! -Greg |
RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
If the 58" plane uses a plastic fairing to cover the fin/stab joint as the 66" does, I think you can provide adequate reinforcement by tossinf the plastic fairing in the bin an building up a balsa block to occupy the same space. Shape to fit and cover with some of the eftover bits of covering that are provided and away you go!
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RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
ORIGINAL: gnyberg I finally got my VF 58" Extra in the mail - very nice! I've starting hinging and putting it together beginning at the back. I have a couple of questions for those of you who've put this baby together that I don't recall having been answered in previous posts .. 1) Did you take off some covering and epoxy in a fillet UNDERNEATH the horix stab on each side of the fuse? I think it would look terrible and be hard to paint/cover to match the stripe it would likely wipe out. I used some tri balsa and put a fillet on top only. 2) They seem to highly recommend wire reinforcement of the tail surfaces. How many people actually did that, and for those that did not, can you still do reasonable IMAC stuff? I don't really plan to do wild things like blenders/etc for quite a while - but need good knifeedge, etc. 3) If you did end up putting wires on the tail, can you describe the parts used? I'm looking at 2-56 threaded rod, metal clevises, and some bolts through the surfaces with maybe little metal landing-gear straps bent 45-deg or so to hook from clevises to bolts. Seem reasonable? Overkill? I wondered if the metal clevises were really meant for tension/load like that. 4) How far out should wire struts be span-wise, and where on the chord of the surface? I'm looking at perhaps 30-40% out spanwise and about 50% of the fixed-surface chord. 5) Finally, when mounting my Saito 91 on its side (head left when looking from front) my throttle arm is on top. Their hole is on the bottom - obviously cant use that. But the corresponding location behind the throttle arm on top is above the "box" they use to extend the fuselage 2 inches. Anyone have a good linkage technique? Thanks! -Greg I can answer a few for you from exp with my 58" Extra As far as the motor on its side and throttle arm I would leave it there and bend the rod to get it there, I had to get creative but it worked out niceley with no binding. I got mine used and then flew the crap out of it and never had a problem with the tail group. I even dropped it once and had to glue it back on and it flew fine after that. Dont think you will ne flying wires. There is a pic somewhere where somone put some stock on the tail group and painted it to match, pretty good diea but I did not feel it was neccesary for me. Ill get you some pics later tonight when I get home from work. |
RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
ORIGINAL: gnyberg 5) Finally, when mounting my Saito 91 on its side (head left when looking from front) my throttle arm is on top. Their hole is on the bottom - obviously cant use that. But the corresponding location behind the throttle arm on top is above the "box" they use to extend the fuselage 2 inches. Anyone have a good linkage technique? Thanks! -Greg Dauntae |
RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
I'm not positive but I think on the Saito you can reverse the carb and put it on the other side, I know you can on some of the 4-strokes Just take out the two screws holding the carb onto the back plate and carefully revolve the whole assembly. -David C. |
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I have just got my 66" Edge 300S and I was wondering what sort of pilots you were putting in this plane? Do most of you just put "TOY DOLLS" in them or real " Scale" pilots? I really haven't got into it yet and I have not read directions but does anyone have any tips on finishing the cowl.
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RE: RE: VectorFlight 300s, anygood?
RCBOZO, the cowl should be a piece o cake! The firewall is predrilled for the engine mount so you cant go wrong there. Just make sure that before you install the engine, push the cowl in as far as it will go over the fuselage, set it so it points straight, and measure the distance from the front of the cowl to the firewall by sliding a dowel from the front. This will give you the exact position of the engine on the mount. Finally mark the position of the engine head by drilling in some test holes and once you have the glow plug centered, cut out the hole with scissors clearing the head by about 1/4 inch each side. Anything upto a 91 FX will be fully enclosed in the cowl, but you will need the opening for cooling air.
Good luck! |
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