Ailerons???
#2
Depends - in North America it is the opposite - right stick has ailerons and elevator, left has rudder and throttle. (mode 2)
In Europe, it is commonly like how you stated, (mode 1)
In Europe, it is commonly like how you stated, (mode 1)
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No No! Of course we Europeans use the same mode as real pilots, mode 2! Ailerons on right stick and rudder on the left stick...when you have a plane with ailerons.
If you have a plane with just rudder and elevator...then you have the rudder on right stick.
No No! Of course we Europeans use the same mode as real pilots, mode 2! Ailerons on right stick and rudder on the left stick...when you have a plane with ailerons.
If you have a plane with just rudder and elevator...then you have the rudder on right stick.
#5
It depend, they have transmitters with mode 1 and mode 2. I use mode 2, mostly everyone in American uses mode 2. Mode 1 I think has throttle and rudder on the right, elev and ail on the left.
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In 1/2A (.049) planes a lot of them have no throttle, if it does, then its up/down left thumb/finger (however you prefer, I fly with the thumb) so there is a lot of 2 channel planes either elevator/rudder or elevator/aileron either way they are both on the right stick, if you have 3 or 4 channel then rudder is on the left stick..so again either way you turn with the right stick....Rog
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From: Dubbo, New South Wales, AUSTRALIA
G'day
Some of the previous posts have wrong info in them so be careful.
Most of the US files Mode 2. This has the right stick set up the same as a real aeroplane's joystick -
Right Stick Mode 2 - Aileron (left to right) and Elevator (back and forward).
Left Stick Mode 2 - Rudder (left to right) and Throttle (back and forward).
My club mostly flies Mode 2 but this is unusual in Australia. I fly Mode 1 as I learned in another club.
Left Stick Mode 1 - Rudder (left to right) and Elevator (back and forward)
Right Stick Mode 1 - Aileron (left to right) and Throttle (back and forward).
The normal elevator stick operation is so that if you want to give UP control, you move the stick towards the bottom of the radio though I have seen people fly the opposite way.
Also, Throttle is usually set up at minimum throttle at the bottom and maximum at the top but again I have heard of people who fly the opposite way.
To further confuse things there are Modes 3 and 4 which are mirror images of Modes 1 and 2 but I don't know which is which.
As Jaka I think said, if you only have rudder control and no ailerons, you use the aileron channel (right stick in both Mode 1 and Mode 2) for the rudder.
So to answer your question - for both Mode 1 and Mode 2, the ailerons are on the right stick.
Some of the previous posts have wrong info in them so be careful.
Most of the US files Mode 2. This has the right stick set up the same as a real aeroplane's joystick -
Right Stick Mode 2 - Aileron (left to right) and Elevator (back and forward).
Left Stick Mode 2 - Rudder (left to right) and Throttle (back and forward).
My club mostly flies Mode 2 but this is unusual in Australia. I fly Mode 1 as I learned in another club.
Left Stick Mode 1 - Rudder (left to right) and Elevator (back and forward)
Right Stick Mode 1 - Aileron (left to right) and Throttle (back and forward).
The normal elevator stick operation is so that if you want to give UP control, you move the stick towards the bottom of the radio though I have seen people fly the opposite way.
Also, Throttle is usually set up at minimum throttle at the bottom and maximum at the top but again I have heard of people who fly the opposite way.
To further confuse things there are Modes 3 and 4 which are mirror images of Modes 1 and 2 but I don't know which is which.
As Jaka I think said, if you only have rudder control and no ailerons, you use the aileron channel (right stick in both Mode 1 and Mode 2) for the rudder.
So to answer your question - for both Mode 1 and Mode 2, the ailerons are on the right stick.
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And the next mode 1 pilot I meet here in the states will be the first. I did fly with a couple of guys with the single stick TXs, I gave it a shot. I think I could get used to the single stick faster then I ever could mode 1. Just depends on how you learned to fly.
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Ibelonged to one club that had quite a few pattern fliersthat used Mode 1. And a fair number on the 52 band HAMcrystals.
Mostly Ithink to lord above us meersportplane mode 2 fliers on 72 mHz.
Mostly Ithink to lord above us meersportplane mode 2 fliers on 72 mHz.

#13
ORIGINAL: shd3920
Do the ailerons go on the left stick with the rudder control on the right stick of the TX?
Do the ailerons go on the left stick with the rudder control on the right stick of the TX?
On the right stick of the Tx (for the most used in USA Mode 2).
Long answer:
See these references:
http://www.rc-airplane-world.com/rc-...ter-modes.html
http://www.flyingsites.co.uk/newcome...aryflight1.htm
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ORIGINAL: shd3920
Do the ailerons go on the left stick with the rudder control on the right stick of the TX?
Do the ailerons go on the left stick with the rudder control on the right stick of the TX?
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I'm going to open this back up because I didn't see this mentioned.
Of course someone can set up their radio any way they want, and you may find something you like better than the standard. But if you ever want to have someone test fly your plane, or if you want to fly someone else's plane, then you should go with the majority and keep it simple, go mode 2. Throttle/rudder left stick. Aileron/Elevator right stick.
And yes, with this set up, if you have a rudder only plane, you can just let the right stick control the rudder and you won't have to make any adjustments yourself..
Of course someone can set up their radio any way they want, and you may find something you like better than the standard. But if you ever want to have someone test fly your plane, or if you want to fly someone else's plane, then you should go with the majority and keep it simple, go mode 2. Throttle/rudder left stick. Aileron/Elevator right stick.
And yes, with this set up, if you have a rudder only plane, you can just let the right stick control the rudder and you won't have to make any adjustments yourself..
#17

Might be easier if you just forget the surface the stick operates, but lets call it 'direction' and 'speed' and 'height'. That way whatever surface controls the direction of the thing gets hooked to the stick that operates that channel, 'Speed' is then hooked into whatever stick controls the elevator, and if you are using an engine, then 'height' just gets plugged into whatever stick operates the throttle or speed control. If you are using all four channels, then the one that's left is usually plugged into the rudder stick/channel. After all, standing on the ground holding a sweaty plastic box in your hands bears no relationship at all to actually sitting in the real thing with all the physical/visual feedback you get, so it would be better to label the radios' controls with a description of what response they get from the model, rather than what flappy bit they move, wouldn't it?
Evan, WB #12.
Evan, WB #12.
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ORIGINAL: Gray Beard
And the next mode 1 pilot I meet here in the states will be the first.
And the next mode 1 pilot I meet here in the states will be the first.
He,he No way am I gonna get involved in the Mode Wars
So GB does that include 'EX' mode 1 guys like me, who consciensously made the decision fifteen years ago to change over?There are a still some here, Aw heck I ain,t going there

John
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ORIGINAL: JohnBuckner
He,he No way am I gonna get involved in the Mode Wars
So GB does that include 'EX' mode 1 guys like me, who consciensously made the decision fifteen years ago to change over?
There are a still some here, Aw heck I ain,t going there
John
ORIGINAL: Gray Beard
And the next mode 1 pilot I meet here in the states will be the first.
And the next mode 1 pilot I meet here in the states will be the first.
He,he No way am I gonna get involved in the Mode Wars
So GB does that include 'EX' mode 1 guys like me, who consciensously made the decision fifteen years ago to change over?There are a still some here, Aw heck I ain,t going there

John
I still stand by my statement.
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THe thing I don't understand about this topic is how such a simple question can turn into a debate. It should have been one question and one answer.
The answer: You can put the aileron on any control you want, but most people use the right stick.
I have read many posts like that lately, with a simple answer that ends up being, "If you don't do it my way you are a stupid idiot and should be banned from flying for life."
Anyone ever read Gulliver's Travels? The book. There is a chapter where a whole war was fought because one group choose to crack open the small end of a boiled egg to eat it, while the other group said you had to open the large end.
Now I find out there are "mode wars" ???
Fortunately when you meet the debaters in real life, it's really not that bad. Most places I have flown you may get teased for doing something out of the norm, but I have never known someone to actually get mad because a flyer used the "wrong" sticks, or flew gas, glow, or electric as apposed to what the majority flew, liked sport, pattern, 3D, or even if they had a pink airplane.
And if you disagree with me, then - - - well phooie on you.
The answer: You can put the aileron on any control you want, but most people use the right stick.
I have read many posts like that lately, with a simple answer that ends up being, "If you don't do it my way you are a stupid idiot and should be banned from flying for life."
Anyone ever read Gulliver's Travels? The book. There is a chapter where a whole war was fought because one group choose to crack open the small end of a boiled egg to eat it, while the other group said you had to open the large end.
Now I find out there are "mode wars" ???
Fortunately when you meet the debaters in real life, it's really not that bad. Most places I have flown you may get teased for doing something out of the norm, but I have never known someone to actually get mad because a flyer used the "wrong" sticks, or flew gas, glow, or electric as apposed to what the majority flew, liked sport, pattern, 3D, or even if they had a pink airplane.
And if you disagree with me, then - - - well phooie on you.
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I've flown a mode one airplane one time in the distance past. A fellow college student/budding RC pilot had learned to fly on mode one. He had not flown for some time, so he asked me to stand with him to talk it through while in the air.
So he took off and all was good until he got a bad glitch. For those of you that are new, radios in 1973 were not quite the marvels of today. Often they just didn't work very well once in the air regardless how well they operated on the ground.
By the second glitch, suddenly he shoved the transmitter into my hands. My problem was now it's glitches and the fact that every time I attempted to pull up, I throttled down. Adding power made it dive. Thinking about it too long would just freeze me on the controls. Plus we were flying from the parking lot of the football stadium and the airplane kept going into the bowl. Meanwhile I was trying to hold the transmitter position so that the airplane would get the best signal. It was quite a dance.
Finally I realized that as long as I kept both the elevator in neutral and the throttle at half way I could pull back slightly on both and gain altitude. The radio maintain a link just long enough that I eventually got out of the stadium bowl, and away from the seating and close enough to land. I told him to send the radio back for service, but never flew with him again.
Just set your radio up the same as the guys you are going to fly with. Mode one was for the guys that originally flew reed radios that just had half a dozen toggle switches on the front of the transmitter. They had two on the right side for rudder and aileron, and three on the left side for elevator, elevator trim, and throttle. Most of the advanced "10 channel" transmitters only allowed one toggle from each side of the transmitter to be used at the same time. So you could use rudder and elevator together to spin, but not use the throttle or ailerons while doing so.
So he took off and all was good until he got a bad glitch. For those of you that are new, radios in 1973 were not quite the marvels of today. Often they just didn't work very well once in the air regardless how well they operated on the ground.
By the second glitch, suddenly he shoved the transmitter into my hands. My problem was now it's glitches and the fact that every time I attempted to pull up, I throttled down. Adding power made it dive. Thinking about it too long would just freeze me on the controls. Plus we were flying from the parking lot of the football stadium and the airplane kept going into the bowl. Meanwhile I was trying to hold the transmitter position so that the airplane would get the best signal. It was quite a dance.
Finally I realized that as long as I kept both the elevator in neutral and the throttle at half way I could pull back slightly on both and gain altitude. The radio maintain a link just long enough that I eventually got out of the stadium bowl, and away from the seating and close enough to land. I told him to send the radio back for service, but never flew with him again.
Just set your radio up the same as the guys you are going to fly with. Mode one was for the guys that originally flew reed radios that just had half a dozen toggle switches on the front of the transmitter. They had two on the right side for rudder and aileron, and three on the left side for elevator, elevator trim, and throttle. Most of the advanced "10 channel" transmitters only allowed one toggle from each side of the transmitter to be used at the same time. So you could use rudder and elevator together to spin, but not use the throttle or ailerons while doing so.
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Yes it did. At that time, the stadium was of little use to worst program in Division 1 football. So bad back then that we cheered the fourth quarter. The KSU Wildcats are orders of magnitude better now.
Was it your plane? It about hit the bleacher seats on the east side during one attempt of escape, we could see the the plane and it's shadow coming together.
Was it your plane? It about hit the bleacher seats on the east side during one attempt of escape, we could see the the plane and it's shadow coming together.
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Great Story HP
After having dabled with an eight channel reed Orbit I flew mode 1 starting with my first two stick analog proportional a Kraft with the wood print shelf paper case covering, this about 1964. The Orbit came next in 1970 and of course mode 1. This radio was my favorite untill 1991 and it became illegal so time to move on.
I hung on to mode 1 in a long string of some great and some best described as non-descript systems. This all the way up to 1994 and at that time I made the deliberate decision to make the change to mode 11 since no one around me still practiced the split sticks and I really wanted to be able to sell and buy
systems without the often big hassle of a changeover and all the lost springs
Well I did survive the change and now I just don,t want to ever look back.
That was untill just last year when I completed the conversion of that same old Orbit to 2.4 and breathed new life into my old favorite. This included just right airplane for it, a AristoCat I built from and old kit still in the secret stash.
Well this was of course still mode 1 and I thought aw heck I can still fly this ship carefully. Well maiden time came and everything was perfect the takeoff was perfect and the landing was perfect but everything in between was, heck not perfect and what an awfull experiance.
Needless to say that evening that old tranny was opened up to make the change and since with this system there is no servo reversing so some servos had to be repositioned as well as some new pushrods made up.
Yup I,am a mode 11 dude now for life.
Hmm before and after mode 1, mode 11.
After having dabled with an eight channel reed Orbit I flew mode 1 starting with my first two stick analog proportional a Kraft with the wood print shelf paper case covering, this about 1964. The Orbit came next in 1970 and of course mode 1. This radio was my favorite untill 1991 and it became illegal so time to move on.
I hung on to mode 1 in a long string of some great and some best described as non-descript systems. This all the way up to 1994 and at that time I made the deliberate decision to make the change to mode 11 since no one around me still practiced the split sticks and I really wanted to be able to sell and buy
systems without the often big hassle of a changeover and all the lost springs

Well I did survive the change and now I just don,t want to ever look back.
That was untill just last year when I completed the conversion of that same old Orbit to 2.4 and breathed new life into my old favorite. This included just right airplane for it, a AristoCat I built from and old kit still in the secret stash.
Well this was of course still mode 1 and I thought aw heck I can still fly this ship carefully. Well maiden time came and everything was perfect the takeoff was perfect and the landing was perfect but everything in between was, heck not perfect and what an awfull experiance.
Needless to say that evening that old tranny was opened up to make the change and since with this system there is no servo reversing so some servos had to be repositioned as well as some new pushrods made up.
Yup I,am a mode 11 dude now for life.

Hmm before and after mode 1, mode 11.
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I started with the Orbit 4 channel in 1970 with the PS-4 servos before switching to a Kraft "salad bowl" in 1971. Sold the Orbit for enough to buy a new Kraft 70 series along with a Logitrol 7 and a 3 channel Cannon from a guy selling out. I bought another Orbit last year and may do the 2.4 conversion like you did John. While I have dozens and dozens of radios now, you never forget how beautiful the first one was or how hard it was to get it.



