Canopy Glue ??
05-14-2011 | 06:15 AM
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Canopy Glue ??
What is it? Where can Iget it? I've talked to a couple LHS and they have no idea what it is. I don't need it as I just used CAto install my canopy hatch, but Ihave a buddy that is building a plane and his instructions call for it, and I know he'll want the right stuff. Thanks</p>
05-14-2011 | 06:34 AM
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RE: Canopy Glue ??
I've had good luck using silicone II, the bath and window type caulking. I lightly trace the area the canopy contacts the fuse, poke a bunch of small holes through the covering with T-pins and lay a bead of caulk down. place the canopy, clean up any that squeezed out, then tape down the canopy over night. There is just enough give in the caulk to keep vibrations from loosening the canopy, yet it's a very tight bond and the silicone is readily available.
05-14-2011 | 08:52 AM
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I can't get over a LHS not knowing what canopy glue is. I can't recall not seeing it stocked in a hobby shop. You can get it from any mail order shop that stocks glue. If you use tower then just order a bottle from them. It doesn't dry up like a lot of glues so a bottle can last a person for years. It goes on white and will dry clear. Good stuff.
05-14-2011 | 10:20 AM
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RE: Canopy Glue ??
Canopy glue is nothing more than "white" or "Elmer's" glue.
There is - ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IN THE FORMULATION - only the price!
So you can use White or Elmer's glue instead.
The key is to lightly roughen up the surfaces with sandpaper, so the glue can adhere. It will not adhere to completely shiny surfaces.
This type of glue is used, so that the canopy can later be removed if desired without damaging the plane.
There is - ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IN THE FORMULATION - only the price!
So you can use White or Elmer's glue instead.
The key is to lightly roughen up the surfaces with sandpaper, so the glue can adhere. It will not adhere to completely shiny surfaces.
This type of glue is used, so that the canopy can later be removed if desired without damaging the plane.
05-14-2011 | 11:19 AM
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ORIGINAL: opjose
Canopy glue is nothing more than ''white'' or ''Elmer's'' glue.
There is - ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IN THE FORMULATION - only the price!
So you can use White or Elmer's glue instead.
The key is to lightly roughen up the surfaces with sandpaper, so the glue can adhere. It will not adhere to completely shiny surfaces.
This type of glue is used, so that the canopy can later be removed if desired without damaging the plane.
Canopy glue is nothing more than ''white'' or ''Elmer's'' glue.
There is - ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IN THE FORMULATION - only the price!
So you can use White or Elmer's glue instead.
The key is to lightly roughen up the surfaces with sandpaper, so the glue can adhere. It will not adhere to completely shiny surfaces.
This type of glue is used, so that the canopy can later be removed if desired without damaging the plane.
05-14-2011 | 12:02 PM
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I have never had any luck using glues like elmers for my canopies. Doesn't dry clear, seems to have a yellow cast. I only use RC56 any more. Just my 2c
05-14-2011 | 12:43 PM
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ORIGINAL: vertical grimmace
Ok, this is absolutely not true. RC 56 is canopy glue. I think RC 56 is made by Pacer. It dries clear and is flexible. Elmers (PVA) dries much too stiff for this purpose. It is similar, but not the same. Now that you know the name, finding it should be easy.
Ok, this is absolutely not true. RC 56 is canopy glue. I think RC 56 is made by Pacer. It dries clear and is flexible. Elmers (PVA) dries much too stiff for this purpose. It is similar, but not the same. Now that you know the name, finding it should be easy.
I didn't believe it either. Someone else made this assertion here some time ago which I highly doubted.
I said the same as you too at the time, so I decided to research it a bit to test his assertion.
Much to my surprise I found that he was absolutely correct.
I found a PDF file online from the glue manufacturer ( Pacer ) given to the English Government's health division. It was produced for toxilogical reporting purposes in England so Pacer could sell Canopy Glue there...
It listed the chemicals, percentages, etc... in great detail. I compared it against the white glue fomulations.
Canopy Glue is nothing more than "white glue" in a slightly thinner mix.
Gorish: White glue doesn't dry with a yellowish cast. Were you using a different glue... e.g. a wood type white glue?
05-14-2011 | 01:01 PM
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RE: Canopy Glue ??
There are some craft glues that dry clear. They are used for gluing stones on clothing, etc.. Supposed to be machine washable if you want to put your plane in the washer. There is an Alene's Tacky Glue that doesn't run at all. Available at Walmart and craft stores. I am going to try that next plane.
05-14-2011 | 01:44 PM
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ORIGINAL: opjose
No you are quite wrong.
I didn't believe it either. Someone else made this assertion here some time ago which I highly doubted.
I said the same as you too at the time, so I decided to research it a bit to test his assertion.
Much to my surprise I found that he was absolutely correct.
I found a PDF file online from the glue manufacturer ( Pacer ) given to the English Government's health division. It was produced for toxilogical reporting purposes in England so Pacer could sell Canopy Glue there...
It listed the chemicals, percentages, etc... in great detail. I compared it against the white glue fomulations.
Canopy Glue is nothing more than ''white glue'' in a slightly thinner mix.
Gorish: White glue doesn't dry with a yellowish cast. Were you using a different glue... e.g. a wood type white glue?
ORIGINAL: vertical grimmace
Ok, this is absolutely not true. RC 56 is canopy glue. I think RC 56 is made by Pacer. It dries clear and is flexible. Elmers (PVA) dries much too stiff for this purpose. It is similar, but not the same. Now that you know the name, finding it should be easy.
Ok, this is absolutely not true. RC 56 is canopy glue. I think RC 56 is made by Pacer. It dries clear and is flexible. Elmers (PVA) dries much too stiff for this purpose. It is similar, but not the same. Now that you know the name, finding it should be easy.
I didn't believe it either. Someone else made this assertion here some time ago which I highly doubted.
I said the same as you too at the time, so I decided to research it a bit to test his assertion.
Much to my surprise I found that he was absolutely correct.
I found a PDF file online from the glue manufacturer ( Pacer ) given to the English Government's health division. It was produced for toxilogical reporting purposes in England so Pacer could sell Canopy Glue there...
It listed the chemicals, percentages, etc... in great detail. I compared it against the white glue fomulations.
Canopy Glue is nothing more than ''white glue'' in a slightly thinner mix.
Gorish: White glue doesn't dry with a yellowish cast. Were you using a different glue... e.g. a wood type white glue?
05-14-2011 | 02:08 PM
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Yes, I believe what I tried was a carpenters glue. Now, the gorilla glue, not the foaming type does dry clear. I have, however, not tried it on canopies. guess I didn't want to take a chance and screw up the canopy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it is my motto.
05-14-2011 | 03:19 PM
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ORIGINAL: Gray Beard
I was unable to locate anything on line, perhaps you could locate the report for us??
I was unable to locate anything on line, perhaps you could locate the report for us??
The report was not easy to find as I don't believe Pacer nor anyone else actually wants their formulations revealed.
I do remember that I located it after searching for "Pacer" and some of the substances used in a Google search.
That got me to the UK site hosting the report.
I may have the PDF saved ( I knew this would come up again... ) so if I can find it I'll post it.
My initial response to the poster that asserted this was that he was full of it... how wrong I was.
Is there any way I can search my own 10K+ posts for certain keywords so I can find that thread?
05-14-2011 | 04:45 PM
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ME+ COUMPUTER =????????????????????????????????? When I tried the elmers for canopy glue it came out brittle and just broke off with vibration. I have tried the yellow wood glue thinking it was the same color as Pacer Hinge Glue, another wrong on my part, it didn't stick so well. My Kingdom for a case of Pacer Hinge Glue!!!!!!!!!
05-14-2011 | 05:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: djensen623
What is it? Where can I get it? I've talked to a couple LHS and they have no idea what it is.
What is it? Where can I get it? I've talked to a couple LHS and they have no idea what it is.
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05-14-2011 | 06:59 PM
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Canopy glue is nothing more than ''white'' or ''Elmer's'' glue.
There is - ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IN THE FORMULATION - only the price!
So you can use White or Elmer's glue instead.
The key is to lightly roughen up the surfaces with sandpaper, so the glue can adhere. It will not adhere to completely shiny surfaces.
This type of glue is used, so that the canopy can later be removed if desired without damaging the plane.
Canopy glue is nothing more than ''white'' or ''Elmer's'' glue.
There is - ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE IN THE FORMULATION - only the price!
So you can use White or Elmer's glue instead.
The key is to lightly roughen up the surfaces with sandpaper, so the glue can adhere. It will not adhere to completely shiny surfaces.
This type of glue is used, so that the canopy can later be removed if desired without damaging the plane.
05-14-2011 | 08:04 PM
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RE: Canopy Glue ??
ORIGINAL: carrellh
Or you can pay $0.20 more for four times the amount of white glue which works just as well.
[link=http://www.amazon.com/Elmers-Multipurpose-White-Glue-E379/dp/B0013CBH9M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305432278&sr=8-1]White Glue[/link]
Or you can pay $0.20 more for four times the amount of white glue which works just as well.
[link=http://www.amazon.com/Elmers-Multipurpose-White-Glue-E379/dp/B0013CBH9M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305432278&sr=8-1]White Glue[/link]
05-15-2011 | 03:59 AM
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ORIGINAL: hudmun
I use e6000. get it at a craft store. works great. dosn't cost much. never failed me.
I use e6000. get it at a craft store. works great. dosn't cost much. never failed me.
You can also get it at Wal-Mart. Cheaper yet.
05-15-2011 | 08:19 AM
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RE: Canopy Glue ??
Both of the hobby shops that I trade at carry the 560 canopy glue I have used it several times with good sucess I will use it again in a couple of days. I have also used it to glue in the plastic pinned hinges and have no failures, good stuff to have in the shop.
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05-15-2011 | 10:02 AM
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RE: Canopy Glue ??
ORIGINAL: opjose
Or you can pay $0.20 more for four times the amount of white glue which works just as well.
[link=http://www.amazon.com/Elmers-Multipurpose-White-Glue-E379/dp/B0013CBH9M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305432278&sr=8-1]White Glue[/link]
Or you can pay $0.20 more for four times the amount of white glue which works just as well.
[link=http://www.amazon.com/Elmers-Multipurpose-White-Glue-E379/dp/B0013CBH9M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305432278&sr=8-1]White Glue[/link]
05-15-2011 | 10:55 AM
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Whoever says canopy glue is the same as elmers glue.... well.......... I just recently tested a number of adhesives and selected canopy glue to secure aluminum sheeting to my 100 inch wingspan BT-13. I sheeted the plane with .080 aluminum roof flashing and atttached it all with canopy glue. The canopy glue is flexible and with the expansion of the aluminum in the Florida heat, a non-flexible glue like elmers, epoxy, or superglue would not hold, too brittle. Canopy glue is also wonderful for coating the threads of screws and bolts to keep them from vibrating out. Use it like loc-tite, its really amazing stuff. Here is a picture of the PROOF.
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