<div id="post_message_18649749">Hi, since i cant afford to get a hobbyzone champ i am looking at these models and would like some advice on all these planes if each are good or bad and which one is the best please sorry for all the the similar posts so i will put a few models in this post here are the links

Nine eagles sky eagles:
<font color="#22229c">http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/770b-nine-...ht_3961wt_1263</font>


J3 piper cub:
<font color="#22229c">http://cgi.ebay.ie/New-3Ch-RTF-RC-EP...#ht_2661wt_901</font>


Sky 3845:
<font color="#22229c">http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-AIRCRAF...ht_4981wt_1067</font>


P51 mustang:
<font color="#22229c">http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-4Ch-RT...ht_2965wt_1029</font>

Barracuda:
<font color="#22229c">http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3Ch-RC-EP-...ht_2958wt_1029</font>

Thanks Jamie</div><! / message >

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Ebay is probably not the best place to get a plane to learn to fly RC. If you have a hobby shop in your area in Ireland, I would suggest you go there and talk to them about what you may be in your price range of affordability.

CGr.

G'day

There is a myriad small foam models coming out of China at the moment. Nearly all of them say they are suitable for beginners. In reality, most aren't.

Learning to fly is not as easy as the adverts suggest and is best done with someone else teaching you. I did manage to teach a friend to fly by email but he used a glider (Parkzone Radian). Three channel gliders like the Radian do have some inbuilt stability that will help the complete beginner. He also rebuilt it many times.

Your best approach is to find a club and talk to them. A shop may be helpful too but in my experience, they just want to sell you something and they really don't care what it is.

So go looking to find other people who have done what you want to do in your area. A club would be a good first place to start or if you see someone actually flying something, go up and have a chat.

Cheers

Mike in Oz

"So go looking to find other people who have done what you want to do in your area. A club would be a good first place to start or if you see someone actually flying something, go up and have a chat."

May want to wait till they land first. This is ultimately the best suggestion, as you can see and talk to someone and gain the benefit of their experience. It is inexpensive, will save you money, and it is entertaining watching others fly. You get to learn from others mistakes, too.

If you make friends with a few people at the club, they may point you to some good deals on a plane like a Champ or Super Cub. For example, my area has two big swap meets that don't get much publicity outside of the clubs. Prices are usually pretty good there, less than 1/2 of retail most of the time for pristine stuff. Maybe there is a local message board or ads in the club newsletters in your area for used items.