Im new to the hobby, but not to rc in general, Im kind of a impatient person when it comes to see what I like,..So I might get some people telling me Im crazy but thats ok, I just want to know if this palne would be ok for a beginner, Provided Im planning on getting a simulator and help from a trainer. Any other tips for someone starting out in the hobby would be greatly appreciated.

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Yep,
I can see where you might get one or two people telling you that you're crazy.

Not a good idea, but anything is possible with enough money. (IE multiple attempts = multiple planes, radio components, and even engines as they are totaled in crashes) =$$$

Extreme patience and attention to detail along with in depth research into how to have the most reliable engine possible, the correct servos for the P-47, setting up a remote fueling valve, glow plug ignitor, etc. is also essential to tackle a first plane warbird. And that is after assembling the P-47 with the correct balances and control throws. Oh yeah, the retract system set up.......another thing that can go wrong. Are you willing to do all of the research or will you pay to have someone else do that? Do you really want all of that complexity?

And then you have to learn to fly it. Here is where an instructor with a good buddy box system is invaluable. Are you the type that LISTENs to the instructor and retains all of his teachings? A simulator is also good to learn coordination, but is not the same as reality in the end. Learning to fly RC involves incurring some mistakes which quite often means crashes or at least mishaps. this is why it is best to learn with trainer type models. You don't have your heart and soul in a trainer so it doesn't hurt when it is damaged. If you try at least one trainer first, before that P-47 you won't regret it.

You can be taught on anything. But you're really doing yourself an injustice. A trainer aircraft is a stable not too fast platform that allows you to learn. Learn muscle memory and to really see your aircraft. Now I said you can be taught on anything. You don't learn very quick whem your instructor is always taking the airplane away from you to save it.
If you try this on your own without an instructor I put your chances at 75 25 against you. and at 90% you'll walk away from the hobby.
As far as a sim goes they're great helps a student progress quickly....but a sim is no sub for an instructor.
Good Luck ....but at least go to the local field and talk to an instructor

Wow!! Thanks for the great advice...Its good to hear these more (Realistic) pieces of advice, If I were do go this route Ive proposed, I would absolutley spend alot of time getting lessons and flying sims before I venture out on my own.  I should also mention that I would be looking to buy this plane already built at this point, since I dont have the technical know how to build one yet. Ive found one or two on the classifieds here. Although, Im taking the advice here into serious consideration as Im not into throwing money away.
      At this point I have almost zero knowledge when it comes to these planes, Although Im a quick learner when it comes to things that peak my interest. If any of you have a alternative plane that would be more friendly to beginning and training, yet still has a somewhat cool scale factor.
Thanks again.

I agree with all of these pilots.......I tried your way........what a fool I was.

Get something with a flat-bottomed high wing with dihedral. Even better is to get what your instructor recommends.

"Sims" teach you how to fly in a synthetic world; but we don't live in one of those. There are not things like installation errors, servo reversing, center of gravity mistakes, grass, panicand engine problems to destroy your model with no possibility of a reset.

One other thing about P-47's as well as P-51's, P-40's, and just about every other model of a WWII fighter is they are heavy compared to their wing size. So they have to fly faster to stay in the air and also land faster. When the engine quits they don't glide well at all. If they slow down they fall and are hard to save without significant damage. It takes a cool head to stay ahead of all of this. Do you think you could train enough on this first plane to avoid problems? I recommend the Avistar if you want to start and advance fast with an instructor. Its wing is semi symmetrical but with a light wing loading so you can do a lot of training from basic to advanced with an instructor. http://www.towerhobbies.com/products.../hcaa2016.html

This is as close as you can get to a 'cool, scale' trainer
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...ts-rtf-HAN4425
There are tons of posts about it. Some say it is a horrible trainer. Other say it is a good trainer.
RCU review http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...rticle_id=1143
Talk to the person who will be teaching you to find out if he or she is comfortable with this model.

I am one of those that think the PTS trainers are horrible. I have taught on them, but there are better airplanes to train with. The LT-40 is the best, Alpha, Avistar. are good as well.
I understand your desire to fly warbirds, I have had a P-47 myself.
Please understand,and it sounds like you do, that there is nothing else in RC like flight. left right fast slow is fun but now you're adding up and down and you have a blast, no better way to show your skill than a nice landing.
I am telling you that every student I have taught would have crashed on their first flight. Every student has the same learning curve. 9 out of 10 times after your first flight I can tell if your right handed or left handed.
Get yourself a trainer, I still have one, and learn with an instructor on a buddy box. make the "jug" your third airplane after you fly a tail dragger.
Good Luck, too bad you're so far away. You'll be a great student. I'd have fun teaching you.

As a long term instructor you could POSSIBLY learn to fly on a P 47 but learning to land it would be unlikely
Like everyone else says get a trainer like the Avistar.

Apprentice 15 E

Spelling and punctuation not being two of those things, I take it. (Sorry: just couldn't resist. Lots of good people aren't good at spelling or punctuation.)

this ain't english class....if you're that worried about it go teach...(sorry just couldn't resist.)

One assumption made by anyone that says learning on a P-47 is possible is that all or even most instructors, who might be excellent flyers and teachers, could fly a P-47, much less teach on one. Add in that the the "already built" plane might be on the heavy side, not built well or a difficult plane to fly. For a good instructor, saving a trainer plane on a bad approach that is about to stall or heading towards the pits upside down is no big deal. With a warbird there frequently is no "saving" once a mistake is made. On top of that, trainers don't sustain nearly as much damage in the same crash as a warbird would. Go watch the Top Gun vids, lots of the best builders and flyers around, lots of busted retracts and bad landings. You're right, trainer planes are not cool, but neither is crashing or giving up.

it it good advice! I would take it and take time to do a trainer first, My trainer is still being used its now on floats!

Not worried at all. But someone who brags about what a quick learner he is is asking for it.

He's got a point, this isn't English class. However, poor spelling and grammer are a couple of my pet peeves as well. Think of it this way: Grammer is the difference between "Helping your Uncle Jack off a horse." and "Helping your uncle jack off a horse."

Don't you mean learning to land it in one piece - getting an airplane back to the gorund is easy

Lots of great points here! even the spelling and punctuation ones. ( I know how to spell and punctuate, but get a little lazy on forums and tend not to proof read) Im open to criticism though, wether it be positive or negative. I think with all the opinons I've heard here, that I should be starting on a inexpensive trainer and work my way up. This isthe answer I almost knew I would get, But I needed some seasoned pilots like yourselves to bring me back down to earth. Im in love with the warbirds, and jets for that matter( way out of my price range though.) I know the minute I crash my beautiful warbird though, I would probably cry, and I'd like to avoid that.
Thanks again fellas, for the great advice.

I will keep you updated on what I pick up and my progress!!

Usually there are a lot of used trainers for sale real cheap from guys who already graduated to the next airplane. You could buy a used trainer already built up cheap and learn on it while building and setting up your P-47.

hsukaria, Thats exactly what I was thinking!!

One word answer-

NO!

We haven't even determined if the OP wants a small foam P-47, a 40 size, 60 size, electric or a gasser. All of the foam warbirds can be flown successfully following some instructor and simulator time. I'm building a Top FLite P-47 and with flaps, retracts, bomb drop capability, that is definitely not an airplane for a beginner. There is simply too many things to maintain for a novice and too much expense if a mistake is made. I wholeheartedly agree that a Tower Trainer, Avistar, Nexstar or any of the gazillion other high wing trainers is a better choice. Learn to walk before you try running. I have three trainers and have been at this a long time and some days I just enjoy throwing them around. Every RC'er I know has at least one trainer in their fleet. Starting with a tail dragger is also one more obstacle to overcome. For the beginner, a tricycle gear is the best approach. If a scale model is an absolute requirement then one of the high wing Cessnas may be a good choice.

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