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Old 12-29-2013 | 07:46 AM
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Or bite the bullet and go buy a dle for a extra 140???
Old 12-29-2013 | 09:00 AM
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Here's a thread on it. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/gas-...as-engine.html
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Spend the extra couple bucks and get the DLE.
I've got two (likely another one this year too) and they run like swiss watches.
great customer support as well. I was THIS close (my fingers are really really close together... ) to pulling the trigger on the AGM,
decided against it and within a week people (with accurate measuring equipment) started complaining about the tolerances being out,
rough running engines (or not wanting to start at all) etc.
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I end up buying a Dle 30rc
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Originally Posted by izzy-israel-73
I end up buying a Dle 30rc
SWEET .... good choice!
Old 12-30-2013 | 06:05 PM
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Yes cant wait for it to arrive so I can fit it on the Seagull Extra 260 still waiting on the servos to arrive from sds hobbies, going hv digital not sure what sevo to use for throttle any suggestions ?
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Re the throttle, if your using LiFe or LiPo 2 cell backs for the servos, just ensure it's a suitable high voltage servo also. It does not need to be strong, that said, I'm using these, as a guy my dad flew with up where he lived used these in his 50cc Sbach on everything (control surfaces also), and flew the snot out of the thing for ages without issue (still none to date from what I've been told).
I've put the ones I have on my choke and throttle as at $10 for a HV servo (7volt rating) I'm not too concerned - I also will have remote engine ignition kill setup on my transmitter should something ever go haywire (not that I'm concerned it will).
http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...0kg_16sec.html

Still, I better go re-check my elevator install on my Sbach. I have it with the glue drying at the moment, as the last time I did it the cursed epoxy I had went off WAY too soon, and I had to VERY carefully cut it out this morning so I could get all the measurements just so as I am completely anal on ensuring it's as perfect as I can get it (1mm out is 1mm too many for me!)
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Nice Sbach... I've used those exact servo's on several 30 and 50CC airplanes and love them so far!
got em in these three airplanes currently (the sukhoi is a stock photo, the other two are mine )
all have DLE gassers.

CMP 30 CC Marathon


GoldWing 30 CC Sukhoi 26M


TWM 50CC Commander
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Originally Posted by AMA 74894
Nice Sbach... I've used those exact servo's on several 30 and 50CC airplanes and love them so far!
........... all have DLE gassers.


GoldWing 30 CC Sukhoi 26M
Thanks, for the comment on my Sbach, I'm quite quite fond of it as I have yet to see any fluro (neon) green color schemes at our club, or anywhere else for that matter, and I don't like having the same as the next guy on a personal level.
On the other hand, I am a serious fan of the scheme on your Sukhoi, for some reason I love well structured branding on aerobatic planes ..... as while it may not even represent a real world plane (I don't know if that does or not) - it just looks more scale to me! (I also love 'radial' airframe shapes).
Glad to hear your feedback on those servos, as it adds proof to my theory that you don't always have to go high end and horribly expensive to get a really good "quality" item as a lot of people would have you believe. As I have always know, there is a huge difference between "price" and "cost", and "quality" is often more related to the cost of something as this goes beyond just the price you pay for something.
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Thanx Kiwibob yes I agree i try to get it perfect when it comes to setting up the elevator stab i will fight till it's right on the mark my mate who does a lot of building cant let let it go unless he's right on the money. While we are on the subject about elevator stab mine has a tube running threw then you bolt each side of the elevators on i hope it lines up with the wings right haven't put a tape on them yet but if they don't i cant see what you can do to fix as they are pre drilled and sunk!
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Very nice Kiwi what engine are you going with in thr Sbach? What make is it?
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must give then servos ago, i just paid $50 each for the Power HD1218 TG servos they were on special retail around 70 in some shop's,
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very nice planes Ama realy like the TWM Commander
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Originally Posted by izzy-israel-73
Very nice Kiwi what engine are you going with in thr Sbach? What make is it?
As for make, I do know it's Chinese and odds on originally from these guys: http://www.hobby-china.com/html/e_97.html (Mine also came with that same totally undersized pilot figure shown in their page)
One thing I do know is that it is the same exact one that Nitroplanes sell (though mine came as a b/day gift from an importer that lived near my dad). That said, it looks quite well made, light yet strong, everything is well lined up and is going together really well.
As for motor, when the plane was sent down to where I live as a belated b/day gift, my dad also sent me a CRRC 26R (3.15hp) motor with it also (pretty sweet b/day gifts last year I must say), which will more than suit me as all I will need as 3D is not my thing (I have heli's that hover just fine should that need take me), and I'm really looking to set it up for more 'scale' aerobatics and sport flying only which is why I haven't seen a need to have gone and got a DLE30 or 35.
As touched on previously, this is the same exact airframe as mine, and his 26cc is only rated at 2.6hp - which is about a 17.5% drop in power over what the motor I have puts out, so I think I'll be happy with what I'll get from her: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP8LZPGBLP0
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G' the pilot is right out of wack for the plane lmao
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Originally Posted by izzy-israel-73
G' the pilot is right out of wack for the plane lmao
That it was ... as soon as I saw it I sent it up north for my dads smaller planes as it was of no use for me. The pilot shown in my plane is one that I had lying around after a buddy boxing incident cost me my Yak54.
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Not meant to loose planes when using a buddy box must of been a real big mistake, I had a mate loose a plane he decided to listen to another bloke while the guy teaching him new what he was capable of and not capable of doing while flying always pays to listen to the teacher and not other people while you are in the air!
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Not too sure if it was touchy button or what (DX8's have a button vs a switch), but control was lost, and so was the plane shortly there after - Planes crash, it's part of the hobby (no matter how hard we try for it not too be), you just have to pick yourself and all the tiny little bits off the paddock, and move on.
First major loss/issue I've ever had, but it may well not be the last.
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I've got three DLE 30's. All great engines. Just ran my first AGM 30 this past weekend for one tank. I really can't find a single difference in the way they run. The AGM seems a hair smoother in the midrange. Of course I can't attest to its longevity, but from what I've seen so far it looks to be a good engine.
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Originally Posted by Mpizpilot
I've got three DLE 30's. All great engines. Just ran my first AGM 30 this past weekend for one tank. I really can't find a single difference in the way they run. The AGM seems a hair smoother in the midrange. Of course I can't attest to its longevity, but from what I've seen so far it looks to be a good engine.
There is a youtube video showing how far out tolerance an AGM engine is.The crank was way out. I was really amazed that the engine was that poorly setup. I am not sure all AGM engines are like that though. I wonder if anyone has tested others for tolerance? They are certainly priced right and I hope that not all of them are that bad because failure will occur if they are!
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I am sure that they have rectified the problems the engine had would be stupid not to!!!

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