Starting out - with no depth perception
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My trainer was a 95" Sr Telemaster W/a Saiti FA150. Big is more stable if you have the room.
A cub yellow base color W/large black graphics on the top of the wing/horizontal stabilizer help W/orientation.
A cub yellow base color W/large black graphics on the top of the wing/horizontal stabilizer help W/orientation.
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"Can the Real Flight Simulator give you a sense of how visible different aircraft color schemes are at a distance?"
The problem is a matter of contrast. Even a white plane can look black against the sky. I'd say that the average display cannot reproduce the contrast range
enough to really represent the problem. At times, things can be so bad that you end up moving the controls slightly just to see what relative orientation? is between you and the plane.
There are some yellow/orange tinted sunglasses that seem to help.
The problem is a matter of contrast. Even a white plane can look black against the sky. I'd say that the average display cannot reproduce the contrast range
enough to really represent the problem. At times, things can be so bad that you end up moving the controls slightly just to see what relative orientation? is between you and the plane.
There are some yellow/orange tinted sunglasses that seem to help.
Telemaster is a fine plane very similar to the LT 40s perhaps slower if built light. I have taught a couple new guys on Balsa USA sticks they ARE great planes but a bit quicker than the LT40 types.
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Thanks for your response, rgburril. I dunno if this is right for me, especially given my visual problems. I just read “One other alert on this puppie, its slightly small so don't fly out too far even over 12 seconds one direction with any speed and makes a tiny target for my older eyes, simply keep it in a good visual range, nearly lost mine on an early maiden turning abit late but caught a view of the wings as it turned and able to bring her back, just be aware.“ Between this (which sounds like it requires a bit of maneuvering at least every 12 seconds) and my visual problems and my 0 experience, I’m thinking this may be a fun plane for me a little later, but not just yet. I’d be too nervous!
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Find some Clubs in your area. Visit them and don't try to wow anyone with your expertise. Don't hang around anyone that is not friendly. By the same token don't spend much time with the fellow that has all the answers but no airplanes.
Flying RC is not difficult but neither was driving a car in traffic when you first started. The best option is to get friendly with a GOOD Instructor. Visit Clubs, and ask questions. Don't let one butt-hole create any SCARE for you. Bad guys are far quicker to start giving you some bad time, but the good guys far outweigh and outnumber the bad ones. Enjoy the new company and soon you will find a good new friend that will train you and both will have fun.
EYE PROBLEM: There are many good physicians out there that can assist you clearing up some bad problems. In my opinion and MY EXPERIENCE those that simply are out to get your money with laser are not the good ones. At nineteen years old I had 20-10 in both eyes when I entered USAF Aviation Cadets. About 35 years of flying, then airline, I started having problems. All I received was thicker glasses. Long story but after I retired from the airline, I started having problems with keeping RC models within sight where I could maintain the aircraft's attitudes. Long Story, I located an excellent eye surgeon, he removed one cataract, then the second one, That was some 10 years ago. Now a month away from 78 years old, I still have 20-15 in left eye and 20-30 in right eye. Same corrective lenses for the past 10 years.
Flying RC models is no longer an eye-vision problem. If you find the right kind of eye-doctor, I am sure he-she will fix you up.
So, get those eyes fixed, get proper glasses, and you will be able to see the machines. I do recommend white wings as basic color with dark patterns but different patterns, and that will stay with you. Attend a Pattern contest (any kind of aerobatic event) and ask to look at their color patterns on the wings, top and bottom. They know what works. The $ stores have lots of colorful tapes.
You need to decide if you are going glow or electric. I like noise! However as a newbie you will have to decide your own way. Electric can be an easy way to get into RC. For me I do not care for it because I don't care to have to learn all that new stuff.
I was a PILOT not an electrician! HA!So Trish, get with a good eye surgeon, get out among the local model clubs, and determine the type of model you wish to learn on. Enjoy a great sport.
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. . .go to a local club field, look around, watch some planes, see some trainers, talk to some folks. If you can see someone else's airplane easily, you will be able to see one like it if you have one]. . . .
Here's a great link of images of serious hardware in color schemes to keep people alive in real life - aviation training pilots in our military - these color schemes are selected ONLY because of visibility - ground (or sea) to air, and air-to-air. Noteworthy color choices and patterns -
https://www.google.com/search?q=t-34...w=1280&bih=523
Here's a great link of images of serious hardware in color schemes to keep people alive in real life - aviation training pilots in our military - these color schemes are selected ONLY because of visibility - ground (or sea) to air, and air-to-air. Noteworthy color choices and patterns -
https://www.google.com/search?q=t-34...w=1280&bih=523
Thanks so much!
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hey guys im new on rcu probably my first attempt on asking a question , I know this doesn't falls under the subject butt I couldn't realy navigate and find a forum for this question but I really hope you guys can help me out? im about to buy the flyzone sensei from towerhobbies and want to use de stock blade sr spektrum compatible transmitter the hp6dsm with the ar500 spektrum receiver, is this going to work without to many glitches cause im on a tight budget so I want to use my old hp6dsm { blade sr was my first heli } .... please guys im really stuck here
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Hi joey, relax you are in the beginners forum and yes at the top of the first of each forums page is a button to start a new thread and this is a perfect place for your question and probably best with a new question to start you own thread rather than to tack on to someone elses but I will try to answer your question here not a problem.
Congratulations on your choice of the Sensai , it is a superb electric trainer and definitely my preference. I have flown and mentored also with the Apprentice but much prefer the Sensai for use when training in electrics. It is in my opinion a better flying airplane and requires less expensive batterys as well. As a matter of fact I have one right now on the bench that I am setting up for one of our new more senior members. He will be flying his with our 'Cordless' buddy cord system.
If you purchased yours with the tactic receiver and you already have the complete Spectrum system That's no problem, just set the Tactic receiver aside and instead use the Spectrum Rx. The Futaba J type plugs will work in the Spectrum Rx although you may have to shave off tabs which is easy to do. I am not a Spectrum user so do not know if Spectrum requires tab shaving or not. Each of the plugs are labeled and it very easy to set up There is even a candy drop door that you do not have to use but it will need to be plugged to an extra channel if you choose to use it. Note don't mess with these things or cameras or any of that while you are just beginning though.
John
Congratulations on your choice of the Sensai , it is a superb electric trainer and definitely my preference. I have flown and mentored also with the Apprentice but much prefer the Sensai for use when training in electrics. It is in my opinion a better flying airplane and requires less expensive batterys as well. As a matter of fact I have one right now on the bench that I am setting up for one of our new more senior members. He will be flying his with our 'Cordless' buddy cord system.
If you purchased yours with the tactic receiver and you already have the complete Spectrum system That's no problem, just set the Tactic receiver aside and instead use the Spectrum Rx. The Futaba J type plugs will work in the Spectrum Rx although you may have to shave off tabs which is easy to do. I am not a Spectrum user so do not know if Spectrum requires tab shaving or not. Each of the plugs are labeled and it very easy to set up There is even a candy drop door that you do not have to use but it will need to be plugged to an extra channel if you choose to use it. Note don't mess with these things or cameras or any of that while you are just beginning though.
John
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From: El Reno, OK
Thanks a lot, Bob. I did just that yesterday: I went out to the local flying field and found someone flying his red plane with red and white piano keys on the underside of the wings and we talked quite a while. I found that very helpful. Today I'll review the photos you linked to.
Thanks so much!
Trish
Thanks so much!
Trish
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Many fliers in our wonderful hobby believe that at the distances we fly in they can determine if they are behind or in front of an abject. I encourage you and others to look up "depth perception". You will find that human depth perception is about 17 feet. After that you cannot tell if you are in front or in back of an object. For many years we had a member in our club who was blind in one eye. He had no problem flying his models. Here is something that may help you:
Every now and then I hear someone at the field mention that they crashed during a landing because “THE WIND GOT THEM”. This looks like a strong downdraft pushed the plane into the ground. That ever happen to you? Since I always insist on determining the cause of every one of my crashes, I kept questioning that “THE WIND GOT ME” reason, since I used it also. Then I realized that these types of crashes always happened when the plane was very far away, or when I was landing at a much different angle to me than usual.
I am now convinced that these types of crashes are due to the wing stalling. Yes, stalling. The plane falls straight down because the wing lost lift. And the reason is that the plane is so far away and almost coming toward you, that you have lost your ability to estimate the air speed. So it stalls and crashes. My answer is to land the plane directly in front of you as much as possible, going right to left, or left to right, only. In that location you will be better able to judge the air speed of the plane, and how far off the ground it is. Use the throttle and the elevator during the full length of the landing approach to position the plane to touch down near to “in front of you”. Throttle extends the landing point, while elevator shortens the landing point. I usually hold a little throttle during the landing and only go to idle in the last foot or two of elevation. Please give this idea some thought. I would appreciate hearing any input on this.
Many fliers in our wonderful hobby believe that at the distances we fly in they can determine if they are behind or in front of an abject. I encourage you and others to look up "depth perception". You will find that human depth perception is about 17 feet. After that you cannot tell if you are in front or in back of an object. For many years we had a member in our club who was blind in one eye. He had no problem flying his models. Here is something that may help you:
Every now and then I hear someone at the field mention that they crashed during a landing because “THE WIND GOT THEM”. This looks like a strong downdraft pushed the plane into the ground. That ever happen to you? Since I always insist on determining the cause of every one of my crashes, I kept questioning that “THE WIND GOT ME” reason, since I used it also. Then I realized that these types of crashes always happened when the plane was very far away, or when I was landing at a much different angle to me than usual.
I am now convinced that these types of crashes are due to the wing stalling. Yes, stalling. The plane falls straight down because the wing lost lift. And the reason is that the plane is so far away and almost coming toward you, that you have lost your ability to estimate the air speed. So it stalls and crashes. My answer is to land the plane directly in front of you as much as possible, going right to left, or left to right, only. In that location you will be better able to judge the air speed of the plane, and how far off the ground it is. Use the throttle and the elevator during the full length of the landing approach to position the plane to touch down near to “in front of you”. Throttle extends the landing point, while elevator shortens the landing point. I usually hold a little throttle during the landing and only go to idle in the last foot or two of elevation. Please give this idea some thought. I would appreciate hearing any input on this.
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Thanks a lot, Bob. I did just that yesterday: I went out to the local flying field and found someone flying his red plane with red and white piano keys on the underside of the wings and we talked quite a while. I found that very helpful. Today I'll review the photos you linked to.
Thanks so much!
Trish
Thanks so much!
Trish




