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Old 04-24-2014 | 01:00 PM
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Firstly hi all .
i have a question , i have just purchased a park zone 300 extra and a dx7 eu transmitter , what i was hoping some one could help me with is what would the best settings be to add to the dx7 for the 300 extra ? for rud, elev & aer also if anyone has any advise on setting up the dx7 , iv read through the manual and its well over my tiny head i have searched the net but had no luck so hoped i could get some advise .thanks in advance Jon .
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Firstly, that is not the best plane to be flying without some serious help (your trying to learn to fly with a plane that would be like learning to drive in a F1 or indy car!!) - if your completely new, take it to a local club and get some assistance there on everything to do with that model.
I'm not trying to put you down or anything, I just understand what it is that you have there, and are trying to save you some money and a LOT of un-required frustration!

PS - the settings you want are on page 12 of the planes instruction manual. You going to need to read them in conjunction with your DX7 instruction manual to make them work fully. Take BOTH along with you to a club and look for assistance there on the setup (also take a few batteries and your tool kit for that model).
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Thanks KiwiBob
i totally understand what you are saying , i think i better hold off on flying this(300 extra) for now along with the starmax p-51 & lander f9f that i also bought hehe . i have a park zone super cub (2 channel) that i am pretty good with . i also have a 3 channel plan built balsa i bough from a guy who set up the dx7 as id bought that from him as well .what would your suggestion be to step up from the super cub ? . i know i should join a club but i like the freedom of kinda learning myself even though i know it will be less expensive to get help at a club . agh page 12 , i looked over that manual about 4 times and missed it every time opps id like to say thanks again as i know I'm trying to jump in feet first yet am a little cautious as i have not taken the p51 or f9f out yet cheers jon

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Even if you tag along and pay the 'day fee' or something for the first few go's, best bet is always going to be a club to start with as you'll odds on learn more in 1-2 days there than you will in here in a month (not putting the forum down, it's just that hands on combined with natural conversation based learning is much better IMO).
Even if you walked away with a good basic understanding, then you'll be placed to move forward and ask more focused questions with a better understanding that you will have.
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Clubs don't take away your freedom to learn at your own pace and enjoy it. They add the experience of pilots who know what they are doing and can help you avoid silly beginner mistakes.
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Ok KiwiBob , Jester i think you have made my mind up for me as it makes sense ill contact my local club Thanks and ill let you know how i get on .
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As stated, this is NOT a good second plane and in my (and others) opinion(s) the PZ Extra is not that great of a plane period. I had one since new and it did not fly like other Extras and it is way to darty for a novice and some intermediate pilots. If/when you do get to it the elevator throws need to be dialed way down even less than the manual states along with the ailerons and then it will be somewhat tamed-down. If you want some more advice...if it's still in the box ...sell it and put that money toward a good second plane.
What you should be looking at is an Eflite Apprentice or Multiplex Mentor high wing plane or a Hangar 9 Pulse 25. A larger high wing plane is a good next-step as it will let you become comfortable flying a larger plane yet still have good control. The Pulse makes an excellent low/mid-wing trainer as with the control throws dialed down it is a real floater and when you get better it becomes a nice aerobatic trainer with the throws turned up.
The warbirds you have are also not a good second plane as they are more difficult to fly .
As far as the radio...again as mentioned...look for a club and join it and ask the folks there for programming help and also for help taking your next plane up .
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thanks for all your help again . i have messaged a club just waiting on a reply Thanks
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The factory cg setting are also wrong, I had this plane and just wanted to climb, you "need to push the battery all the way forward to the motor mount, you will need to remove the foam that is the way." It has to land fast like a warbird, it's a great fun plane but not for beginers. It would be more of a 4th plane. As for a second plane the visionare can be a second plane on very low rates.
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Originally Posted by jonthehermit
thanks for all your help again . i have messaged a club just waiting on a reply Thanks
Fantastic - doing this should mean that in time you get to enjoy your planes Vs just dumping them into the bin after picking them little bits up.
On a side note, perhaps look into either Phoenix or Realflight flight simulators - if used wisely they are fantastic training tools when used in conjunction with a training pilot and will have you flying on your own a LOT sooner than just flying on the weekends will allow for being as you can practice at home as often as you want too (while not really cheap compared to an xbox or playstation game, they will more than pay for themselves in saving you from crashes - and I'm pretty sure that your PZ Extra 300 is on Phoenix as either standard or part of their free downloads library).
My own copy of Phoenix has paid for itself that many times by saving me from a crash(s) by letting me practice time and time again before trying to do a move in real life, I'm almost embarrassed to add them all up!
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It took a while, but I finally tamed this plane and it became one of my favorites. But last year, the speed controller quit and it went into the bean field. I agree with the above, it is not a good first, second or third plane. There is an addendum somewhere on the CG and where the battery should be positioned. If you are flying off a grass field, get rid of the wheels and pants. There are some larger DuBro park flyer wheels that are about 1 1/2" in dia. I would also get a roll of the fiber tape and put a length under each wing. I would take off on low rate, fly on high and land on low. Do all this and it is a great flying plane. It is easy to see and fun to fly. There were several others at my field who had this plane and gave up too easy. Hope this helps and when you move up to an aerobatic plane, pull this back out

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I lost my PZ extra 300 doing a knife edge, it was ugly.
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Originally Posted by Hawk131
The factory cg setting are also wrong, I had this plane and just wanted to climb, you "need to push the battery all the way forward to the motor mount, you will need to remove the foam that is the way." It has to land fast like a warbird, it's a great fun plane but not for beginers. It would be more of a 4th plane. As for a second plane the visionare can be a second plane on very low rates.
the extra 300 should certainly NOT be landed fast, like a warbird. (although that;s a very very good way to tear the landing gear out )

you've got to be proficient enough in your flying that you can fly the airplane at 2 or 3 knots over stall speed, and gently place the airplane exactly on the spot you picked when you started the approach.
IMHO the Extra is one of the finest aerobatic airplanes on the planet, (just not this particular version) but you need to be extremely comfortable flying in general before attempting the Extra without a buddy box.
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Unfortunately mine had to land fast, it would tip stall at very slow speeds, the parkzone 300 had some problems, I have a 26cc 260 and a Seagull 300s .75 that will float in, just not my parkzone 300.

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Again, this PZ Extra does not behave like most Extra's. It's flying and handling characteristics are not at all like the other Extra's I own or have flown. I believe it was one of PZ's worst planes ever released. I got accustomed to it's poor traits and could really make it fly and had fun with it . It was relegated to the lousy weather plane corner of the hangar(high winds, rain, snow , etc...) I had it for 4 years and flew it into pieces then threw it away.. Still have a lingering "bad taste" in my mouth from it,
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I have one of these and I have a blast flying it, it will 3D and it flies precision fairly well too, but it is not for the beginner in any stretch of the imagination.

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I know I'm a little late repling to this
The only way I could get my PZ Extra to fly decent was put stall fences on the end of the wing
Made a different plane out of it
Very controllable No tip stall and would do high Alpha with the best of them

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