First try at flying without a trainer! Not to good! :-)
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Skrinob: LOL
Ok guys, I wasn't drinking and I appreciate your concerns. Let me put this in perspective, some of you said that you felt I was irresponsible.... I happen to manage a computer network of 11 sites, 40 servers and over 500 users, that's millions of $$$ of equipement. I started working in IT at the age of 18, so trust me, I think I'm a responsible person.
I'm the first one to admit that I can't wait to fly this thing... but I say it again.... I am aware of the dangers and so was my friend, it was in a deserted place with no residents nearby.... I wasn't drunk or drogued... yet
I guess people got the wrong idead because of the way I wrote my story, it was meant to be kinda funny.
nonetheless, I'm confident that I will be able to fly my plane safely and in a deserted place next week.
I'll let you guys know of my success, or failure
Ok guys, I wasn't drinking and I appreciate your concerns. Let me put this in perspective, some of you said that you felt I was irresponsible.... I happen to manage a computer network of 11 sites, 40 servers and over 500 users, that's millions of $$$ of equipement. I started working in IT at the age of 18, so trust me, I think I'm a responsible person.

I'm the first one to admit that I can't wait to fly this thing... but I say it again.... I am aware of the dangers and so was my friend, it was in a deserted place with no residents nearby.... I wasn't drunk or drogued... yet

I guess people got the wrong idead because of the way I wrote my story, it was meant to be kinda funny.
nonetheless, I'm confident that I will be able to fly my plane safely and in a deserted place next week.

I'll let you guys know of my success, or failure
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Just curious, flying at midnight? Do you have some type of heat seaking search light to follow your plane, or were you going to fly-by-sound?
I highly doubt you could see the attitude of your plane 100' away from you going 50mph. When you loose sight of attitude and direction, and the plane nose dives into your chest, like it did last year to a guy in Arizona(I think) who lost his plane in the sun. Will your family and friends think you made a wise choice?
You can't kill people managing a LAN/WAN, but people can die from poor decisions flying RC.
Sure, accidents happen, but there are many things that can be done to avoid them.
Document your next flight, might be good for the Darwin Awards.
I highly doubt you could see the attitude of your plane 100' away from you going 50mph. When you loose sight of attitude and direction, and the plane nose dives into your chest, like it did last year to a guy in Arizona(I think) who lost his plane in the sun. Will your family and friends think you made a wise choice?
You can't kill people managing a LAN/WAN, but people can die from poor decisions flying RC.
Sure, accidents happen, but there are many things that can be done to avoid them.
Document your next flight, might be good for the Darwin Awards.
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Binary_01, having an important job doesn't always corrrelate with being responcible. If you were flying in the dark, or I should say attempting to fly in the dark, even in a deserted location you used extremely poor judgement. I knew your story was meant to be amusing but instead it made me think about all the repurcussions of potentially dangerous activities to the sport. If the plane had come around and hurt your buddy or worse yet got away into the dark and hit a person or car or passing plane because you didn't know where it was it would give us all a huge black eye. Sorry, I don't mean to sound preachy but what you did wasn't very smart for someone who has as much intelligence as you must to hold the position you do.
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Just because you are incharge of millions of dollars of computer equipment and what have you doesn't mean that you are responsible. I'm a computer admin too and my boss (also an admin) is anything but responsible.
If you were a responsible person you would have put enough thought into it not to even ask your buddy to hand launch the plane when you didn't know how to fly it ESPECIALLY at night and with the high winds.
Or maybe you are just trying to off your buddy.....
If you were a responsible person you would have put enough thought into it not to even ask your buddy to hand launch the plane when you didn't know how to fly it ESPECIALLY at night and with the high winds.
Or maybe you are just trying to off your buddy.....
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The whole thing reminds me of a guy here who was dropping ping pong balls out of a full scale cub to a bunch of kids in a tennis court. He ended up stalling it, spinning it into the court. Luckily, he hit the side with no kids. Killed him dead though.
Everyone was running around saying how good he was that he didn't hit the kids. The rest of us were thinking how stupid he was for what he did and how lucky he was to not have taken a bunch of kids with him.
Its funny how people keep showing up here more and more, saying they can fly with no instruction and no help from anyone, and very few ever remain more than a short time.
Anyone ever wonder why that is? I don't.
Everyone was running around saying how good he was that he didn't hit the kids. The rest of us were thinking how stupid he was for what he did and how lucky he was to not have taken a bunch of kids with him.
Its funny how people keep showing up here more and more, saying they can fly with no instruction and no help from anyone, and very few ever remain more than a short time.
Anyone ever wonder why that is? I don't.
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I could perfectly see, it's called light pollution
Seriously, I was in a big park and some lights were on.
Anyways, I think the only poor judgement I made was to go ahead a try to fly without properly being prepared. (ie: properly broken-in engine, nicer weather...) even tho nothing was successfull I still had fun
But for sure I will be more prepared for my next attempt. But that' doesn't mean I'm not responsible and what I did was stupid.
Honestly, I only wanted to see it take off the ground for a few seconds and fly it straight and then land it.... I wasn't planning to do circles, loops and all, not in the conditions that I was.
Anwyays, the bottom line is that what I did wasn't irresponsible or dumb, it was my decision, no one was at risk except for myself and my buddie (which knew the risks) no preperty was at risk either. I really don't care if my plane crashed to the ground, I woun't b!%ch about it, I would just recycle what I could and be happy to build another plane
The point of my post was to show to the newbs like me, not to go ahead and be impatient like I was.... I should'off waited for better weather condition on a sunny day.... I was a victim of finishing my plane late at night and not be able to resist flying it..... is that a crime? stupid or irresponsible?
Then again, maybe this confusion is all my fault, english is not my native language (French is) therefore maybe I miscommunicated my story and feelings
Seriously, I was in a big park and some lights were on.
Anyways, I think the only poor judgement I made was to go ahead a try to fly without properly being prepared. (ie: properly broken-in engine, nicer weather...) even tho nothing was successfull I still had fun
But for sure I will be more prepared for my next attempt. But that' doesn't mean I'm not responsible and what I did was stupid.Honestly, I only wanted to see it take off the ground for a few seconds and fly it straight and then land it.... I wasn't planning to do circles, loops and all, not in the conditions that I was.
Anwyays, the bottom line is that what I did wasn't irresponsible or dumb, it was my decision, no one was at risk except for myself and my buddie (which knew the risks) no preperty was at risk either. I really don't care if my plane crashed to the ground, I woun't b!%ch about it, I would just recycle what I could and be happy to build another plane

The point of my post was to show to the newbs like me, not to go ahead and be impatient like I was.... I should'off waited for better weather condition on a sunny day.... I was a victim of finishing my plane late at night and not be able to resist flying it..... is that a crime? stupid or irresponsible?
Then again, maybe this confusion is all my fault, english is not my native language (French is) therefore maybe I miscommunicated my story and feelings
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No I think you communicated your story just fine. But when you mention "park" here, most of us (I believe) picture a park in a rural neighborhood where there are houses within 1/4 to 1/2 mile, and a street within a hundred (or so) feet.
We also recognize the fact that a glow powered trainer is easily capable of 50 mph which means it could reach one of those houses within about 20 seconds or, if badly trimmed (as MANY trainers are) and not really under anyone's control, could pull a half loop, followed by a half roll and park itself in your buddy's chest.
Is any of this likely considering your intentions? No of course not, but that's what an accident is, something happening that no one intended.
Knowing the fact that at least two people were killed this year by RC planes (and the media ramifications of those tragedies) makes us all a little "gun shy", and prevents us from saying, "Ha Ha, what a great story".
Just my two cents.
Dennis-
We also recognize the fact that a glow powered trainer is easily capable of 50 mph which means it could reach one of those houses within about 20 seconds or, if badly trimmed (as MANY trainers are) and not really under anyone's control, could pull a half loop, followed by a half roll and park itself in your buddy's chest.
Is any of this likely considering your intentions? No of course not, but that's what an accident is, something happening that no one intended.
Knowing the fact that at least two people were killed this year by RC planes (and the media ramifications of those tragedies) makes us all a little "gun shy", and prevents us from saying, "Ha Ha, what a great story".
Just my two cents.
Dennis-
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Experience always gives the test before the lesson. Take the simulator (if money a problem go to the FMS free sim and use a simple joystick) and practice on those endless winter days. Rest assured we have all done dumb things. Flyiing without help is one of the biggest ones however.
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Some people just won't take advice.
I say go ahead and fly it yourself, but please do it far far away from people and property.
You'll either be a great success, learn it yourself and prove everybody wrong, or you'll crash it a few times, get tired of spending hours building/fixing for seconds of uncontrolled crashing, and quit entirely.
At least he's trying it with a trainer, instead of the guy that wanted to do it with a .30 size Extra. We never heard from him again, must have his tail between his legs.
I say go ahead and fly it yourself, but please do it far far away from people and property.
You'll either be a great success, learn it yourself and prove everybody wrong, or you'll crash it a few times, get tired of spending hours building/fixing for seconds of uncontrolled crashing, and quit entirely.
At least he's trying it with a trainer, instead of the guy that wanted to do it with a .30 size Extra. We never heard from him again, must have his tail between his legs.
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I think as far as you go to a place where you can't hurt anyone or damage anything, you are free to fly whenever you want, learn by your self (Like I did), distroy your planes, buy new ones, whatever, it's nobody business if you do so.[8D]
You seemed to have learned how to be patient and that's how we learn, from mistakes.[&:]
People here should be more forgiven and instruct more other than just shoot! Who have never made a mistake?[:-]
Nilo
You seemed to have learned how to be patient and that's how we learn, from mistakes.[&:]
People here should be more forgiven and instruct more other than just shoot! Who have never made a mistake?[:-]
Nilo
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#1 it was dark
#2 it was windy
#3 it was your first time flying
now i've heard of guys flying 3d 5 feet away front them at night but the are really good pilots. Just go get an instuctor and then do whatever you want. when its dark and cold you cant se the prop and your hands are cold.....hmmmm oh well, i think the sell hands at wallmart.
#2 it was windy
#3 it was your first time flying
now i've heard of guys flying 3d 5 feet away front them at night but the are really good pilots. Just go get an instuctor and then do whatever you want. when its dark and cold you cant se the prop and your hands are cold.....hmmmm oh well, i think the sell hands at wallmart.



