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Old 02-21-2004 | 10:08 PM
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Hello peeps weird question i have for you here. Obviously i am begginer with planes. What i want to know is what and where are the ailerons? What and where are flaporons? What i think i know but not sure is what and where these are. Are flaperons same as ailerons. ? thnx for the info.
Old 02-21-2004 | 10:21 PM
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Ailerons are moveable control surfaces on the wings...normally near the far end, sometimes shorter than the wing half, sometimes the full length

Flapperons are Ailerons that also work as flaps (by radio mixing).
Old 02-21-2004 | 10:33 PM
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Ok, learning! What are the correct terms for what the wing control surface is called, and what the movement of the tail going up and down. I knw what rudder is but not clear on the rest. Thnx for info
Old 02-21-2004 | 10:58 PM
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There are two control surfaces that can be on the wing. (Actually more, but leave that for now.) Most R/C planes that you see just have ailerons on them. As was said before, they can either be at the ends of the wing or run the full length.

Ailerons are used to "bank" the plane. The proper term is "roll." The ailerons move in opposite directions. When the left one moves down, the right moves up and vise versa. To roll the plane to the right, the left aileron moves down and the right aileron moves up. Air hitting the lowered left aileron pushed the left wing up. Air hitting the raised right aileron pushes the right wing down.

Flaps are another control surface that can be on wings but you don't see them as often. The are more common on war birds. The right and left flaps move in the same direction. In normal flight, flaps are said to be "up" but that means that they are in line with the normal contour of the wing. They have no effect in this postion. When the flaps are lowered, they change the geometry of the wing. More drag is created but also more lift. This allows the plane to stay in the air but fly slower. Flaps are usually used to allow the plane to land at slower speeds.

"Flaperons" are ailerons that also provide the function of flaps. This is done through settings in the transmitter. When the "flaps" are lowered, both ailerons lower. When aileron signals are sent, the ailerons move up or down from the flap postion instead of the neutral.

Hope that helps.
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Try reading this on the forces that act on an airplane - [link=http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/forces.html]http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/forces.html[/link]

Then read this one on airliner control surfaces - [link=http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/airplane.html]http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/airplane.html[/link]

Seems like RC planes regularly use many control techniques (including computerized mixing) that are rare or not used at all in full size aviation. But if you understand the basics of how full size aircraft fly it is much easier to understand the RC applications.
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Wow, thanks that really hit the nail on the head for me. Great explanation completely understand now Greatly appreciated directed to chevelle
Old 02-22-2004 | 10:29 AM
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No one mentioned the Elevator. This is a control surface on the Horizontal Stabilizer (The "Stab" for short is what the layman would call the "Back Wing") The rear of the Stab is hinged to move up and down. When it moves up, air flowing over it pushes the rear of the plane down, which causes the nose to point up, and vice versa.

One of the tricky things about flying is that this control DOES NOT always cause the plane to go "UP" (This can lead to many Newbie crashes)

For example, if you are in a banked turn, pulling too much "Up" elevator can cause the turn to sharpen and eventually become a spin, once the plane rolls to inverted "Up" becomes "Down". In this state of panic, the beginner is likely to pull "Up" again, to make the plane go up, but when up is down, you can guess what happens.

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