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Old 02-25-2004 | 07:42 AM
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Want to make sure I'm not crazy. Right stick means right aileron goes up and left aileron goes down. Left stick means left aileron goes up right aileron goes down. Correct?

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Old 02-25-2004 | 07:52 AM
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Correct... but, can you explain why?

I don't want to sound like a teacher, but I will anyways... It is important that you understand WHY the ailerons go the way they do.

So, care to try to explain why right stick makes right aileon go up, and left go down?

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Hint: "Be the wind".
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Hint: "Be the wind".
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When commanding a right turn with the transmitter, the right aileron raises and the left one drops. As wind passes over the raised right aileron, it forces the right wing down instigating a right bank/turn. Vice versa, wind passing under the left wing raises it.[sm=surprised.gif]

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When commanding a right turn with the transmitter, the right aileron raises and the left one drops. As wind passes over the raised right aileron, it forces the right wing down instigating a right bank/turn. Vice versa, wind passing under the left wing raises it.[sm=surprised.gif]

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As the right aileron raises, it creates low pressure under the wing which causes it to lift down. Vice-Versa for the opposite wing.
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So, care to try to explain why right stick makes right aileon go up, and left go down?

gus
A 'cause that's the way I set my radio up to do it. I also set my radio up so that the lifting aileron moves farther than the dropping aileron because the lift caused by dropping the aileron also causes drag, and more drag on one wing causes yaw, and yaw causes less than axial rolls.

But now I have a question: Is it the dropped-aileron wing having lift that causes the banking, or the raised-aileron wing losing lift and dropping that does it? Seriously, don't gliders bank by using only the spoiler (or lifted aileron) on the inside wing?
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But now I have a question: Is it the dropped-aileron wing having lift that causes the banking, or the raised-aileron wing losing lift and dropping that does it?
Yes.
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Not only that, you can actually fly on just one aileron (pylon guys do it intentionally, us combat guys do it once in a while not-so-intentionally). The one aileron will roll the plane in both directions.

I'll second the idea that it's important to know your "theory" of how the various bits work to make an airplane fly in a controlled manner. With out that understanding, it's easy to make mistakes and not get things like the old "up elevator make the plane go up, more up elevator makes the plane go DOWN" thing. (I once actually saw a guy fly straight down in to the ground and say "I must have been hit, I was holding full up the whole way down, but the plane just didn't pull out").
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Both probably on models ,
plus air deflection just pushing on the wings from different directions makes them turn.
The light weight on model airplanes make them react a little different than
full scale. You are correct, a lot of sailplanes do not have ailerons and bank with spoilers
as does the B-52 bomber. I have flown full scale sailplanes and they turn very well
with spoilers only.


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Both probably on models ,
plus air deflection just pushing on the wings from different directions makes them turn.
The light weight on model airplanes make them react a little different than
full scale. You are correct, a lot of sailplanes do not have ailerons and bank with spoilers
as does the B-52 bomber. I have flown full scale sailplanes and they turn very well
with spoilers only.


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The only way the light weight makes the models react differently to control surface movement>>>>>> wind gusts toss us around more. (which has nothing to do with how the controls work...)

The laws of physics don't change for the 3 to 12 lb sport models compared to a full scale 747.

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