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Old 08-23-2004 | 10:20 AM
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The F and P indicate which receiver is in the package. Both can handle PCM or FM Same radio, just a different receiver packaged in the box.
Old 08-24-2004 | 11:22 PM
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Got my 7CAF today! All I have to say is, WOW!! I'm thinking bombs, skydivers, photography, smoke, flaps, what else is there? This thing is so cool compared to my skysport LoL. I've already got it programmed for triple rates. Slow and pretty, Normal, and Wild. And of course I mixed a little expo in there. It's cool to have the throttle cut, no more fiddling with the trim. The timer is a great feature. Wow. The trimming is so easy. Little adjustments here and there are going to be a snap now. I'm thinking this thing has opened up a whole new world of possiblities. Can't wait to test her out on the field!

P.S. Thanks to everyone who talked me into it.
Old 08-25-2004 | 09:04 AM
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Congratulations on your new Radio. As you get to know it, maybe you can post some tips and tricks so that others can learn from your experience.
Old 08-25-2004 | 08:43 PM
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I heard that the timer can reset your aileron value to zero . before you fly make sure you have ailerons control if you use the timer let me know how you make out. I want to get one of there myself.
Old 08-25-2004 | 09:37 PM
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That would be a bug in the SW. A strange bug!
Old 08-25-2004 | 09:49 PM
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Using the timer will reset one of your ailerons to zero on some of the 7CAF's. It does on mine, no big deal, I just don't use the timer. I have been using a clip on timer for years, so I just continue to use that. I don't know how I managed before I got this radio!
Old 08-25-2004 | 10:21 PM
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yes it would be a sw bug but I have read an article about this in the R/c Modelers magazine about this rado and that is one of the things they had pointed out.
Old 08-25-2004 | 10:26 PM
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good point willinfla. I guess it is something that could be lived with . but it would be sweet if Futaba fixed this bug.
Old 08-25-2004 | 11:29 PM
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I thought the timer glitch was supposed to be when you had it set to start with the throttle. Am I wrong? I have the timer on mine set on a switch on the upper right front. I haven't had any problems so far. That things going to come in handy.
I just set up the Snap Roll function. How do you think the nexstar is going to react to it? I set the ail.,rud., and elev. all to %120.
Seems like when its raining I have nothing to do but wish I was flying, and when it's nice, I've got something I have to do. Maybe, just maybe I can fly this Sunday. I sure hope so anyways.
Old 08-26-2004 | 06:44 AM
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Let us know how your Next Star does with the snap roll
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Using the timer will reset one of your ailerons to zero on some of the 7CAF's. It does on mine, no big deal, I just don't use the timer.
I noticed this Bug when I bought a 7C. It took me a few days to figure out what was going on. Kinda one of those Huh Wha? Why is this set to Zero things... I think it only does it when you use two servos for ailerons. Real easy to fix just go into the ATV menu and make sure both channels are set to 100/100% travel. I just made it a habbit to check the mixing everytime I change the timer settings.

I have a 6X and a 7C. I like the digital trims the 7C has. Don't have to worry about the roommates playing with the trims anymore. The timer is a nice feature to have. I set it so it starts when I throttle up. You can program every friggen switch on the radio to do something. Very nice thing to have. I use the 6x as a backup radio and a buddy box now...

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Yes it seems to be only when you use the throttle to activate the timer, I just decided not to use it at all. I called Futaba and they said to send it in an they would look at it and repair it. I just don't want to hassle with sending it in right now, it's not that big of a problem as long as you are aware of it.
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I called Futaba and they said to send it in an they would look at it and repair it.
Very cool... I'll just have them repair that in the off season. I just bought the thing so it should be covered.

--Scott Fuller
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Well I actually got to fly today. It was my first time using my new 7CAF. It was also my first time flying in windy conditions. Our 15 mph wind sock was straight out. I almost think it's easier to land with wind. (wind right down the runway that is) I must say though, I was greasing those landings. Not to float my own boat or anything. The transmitter is cool. Tried out the high rates and the snap roll funtion. Pretty fun. The nexstar doesn't exactly "snap" to well. LoL. Pretty funky looking roll though. And you can sure tell a difference in flight characteristics, from the little extra that those control surfaces move on high rates. I sure am loving this hobby. I'm also thinking it's time to get that Super Sportster coming. [8D]
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I flew my Superstar last night with the 7CAP. Had a little trim problem but once trimed out, things went great. It is a nice radio. My Superstar is #1 and I have already programmed my 4 Star 40 into #2.

I haven't used the timer yet either, but I can see where it could be a nice feature. There are many switches on the CAP7, so instead of programming it to the throttle I could program it to switch "B" or "G". I have my throttle cutoff set on "A".

Anyone use a switch for the timer?

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Old 08-27-2004 | 10:13 AM
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I have a 9CH. For sailplanes, he H version has some switches that are in different spots then tha A version, so I bought the H version.

I use two switches on the right side for timers, one going up and one going down depending on why I am timing. I have a three position switch on the right side of the radio (to the left of the timer switches) that is now my standard rate switch, so all planes get 3 rates and I set up R/E/A for each set. I don't set an aileron rate switch and an elevator rate swith. I basically set up three personalities for each plane that have the surfaces balanced according to that personality.

This link shows the 9CH radio (bottom picture)
http://www.servocity.com/html/9ca_an...fferences.html


The one marked Throttle hold is my up timer (up witch) and the one below it (D) is my count down timer (the down switch). To the left is the three position tripple rate switch I use for all my planes. Tripples personalities get set up immediately then I tune them a I tune the plane. I love it!

For anyone else reading this, the 7CA is shown here so you can see the switches.
http://www.servocity.com/html/7ca_transmitter.html
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I now hate you all.... I just bought the EXA, and now I am thinking that I should have bought the CAF..... But it is still a nice emprovment from my sky sport 4, and I have more then enough channels for now, and now have flaperons on my 4*, but I still need to try that and see how it will work.
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- ? -

I too have a 4* 40. I am getting a Futaba &CAF. What is the deal with the fl;aperons? What do they do for you?

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You are flying your 4 channel glo or electric plane. You use R/E/T/A - rudder,
elevator, throttle and ailerons.

Standard 4 channel flies that fine. No issues at all.

Flapperons -

Put in two servos for the ailerons and assign them to different channels.

Under normal flight conditions the ailerons work exactly as before, but using
two servos; No difference.

You are coming in for a landing. You turn on final approach to the runway and
line up for the center line. If you had flaps, here is where you would use
them, but your plane does not have flaps.

You level up the wings. At this point, you flip a switch and
your ailerons just became flaps. You can still use the same stick and you can
still use the ailerons to bank/steer the plane, but they are both turned down
now so you will get a different aileron response than normal.

This is the flapperon mix. You now have the ability to come in much slower
which gives you a much softer more controlled landing. Flaps lower the stall
speed so you can fly at much slower speeds without stalling. Very useful!

That is surface mixing and that is what a computer radio can do for you.

A popular way to do this on gliders is to set up spoilerons. Spoilers spoil the lift of the wing and help you bring the plane down in a
level flight path for a slide in on the belly landing. Without spoilers, if your glider has too much energy and you are committed to landing, you have to put the nose down which can result in a hard landing, or "glide it out", if you have the room, until it comes to a rest and then take the long walk. You can't hit the gas and go around again, you have to come down somewhere. Spoilers make it easier to control where.

Gliders have such efficient high lift wings and such light wing loading it can be hard to get them down, especially in gusty conditions. Really! You have to see it and feel it to understand. It is amazing!

I have one glider that has ailerons but no flaps or spoilers. It goes in the air this weekend. I will be setting up flapperons AND spoilerons on that plane, for landing situations. Then I will see which I like better on this particluar plane, or I will leave both acive. It is just a question of whether you flip the ailerons up or down.

If you want to see what flap/aileron mixing looks like in motion, visit this link. There are videos posted near the bottom of the page and you can watch the surfaces move.
http://airfieldmodels.com/informatio...l_aircraft.htm
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I'm just getting into flying r/c, actually am about to buy my first plane (avistar) and was going to buy the 6eax. I dont plan on doing pattern or 3d, just flying warbirds and the like... is this a good choice? i dont think i would need more than 6 channels.
Old 01-07-2005 | 04:08 PM
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Yes, it's a good choice. Even if you use only 4 channels, the electronic trims, end point adjustment, and engine cutoff will be useful. When your flying gets better, you may also want to start using dual and exponential rates.
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Aeajr,

You should be a teacher. You'd make a good one. Thanks for your patient, thorough answer. Much appreciated.

Airroy
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Old 01-08-2005 | 01:12 AM
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Aeajr,

You should be a teacher. You'd make a good one. Thanks for your patient, thorough answer. Much appreciated.

Airroy
Glad I could be of help. I do teach flying for some of the new guys. I enjoy it.

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