Beginner recommendations
10-20-2004 | 02:58 PM
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RE: Beginner recommendations
ORIGINAL: aeajr
I have met so many people that bought the radio, bought the plane kit, spent months building and now won't fly it because they could not bear the loss of all that time and effort if it crashed. The goal shifted from flying to finishing the model. So the r$1000 spent on teh radio, engine, and "stuff" plus the 50-100 hours they spent building the planes all go on the shelf, so that the plane is not put at risk. Some of these people then go out and buy an RTF electric because if that crashes, hey, there was no time invested. Buy a new wing and put it back in the air.
To those of us who feel that a crash is a lesson learned the hard way, you move on. The plane is a vehicle to flight, not the object of our ultimate affection. But to people who see it as a total personal loss, it is too much to bare. For them ARFs and RTFs are great. They certainly don't want to crash them, but if they do, there is a lot less personal investment so they might actually bring them to the field and try to fly them with the help of an instructor. If it breaks, you buy a replacement part, fix it and try again.
That is how I feel about fixing. It is the price I pay for making a mistake. Fix it and try again! Do better and you won't have to fiX!
ORIGINAL: airbatic
DB Cherry.
It's not a strange sense of humor. There are worse folks than you or I. Some folks actually think their live are void if they crash their plane.
DB Cherry.
It's not a strange sense of humor. There are worse folks than you or I. Some folks actually think their live are void if they crash their plane.
To those of us who feel that a crash is a lesson learned the hard way, you move on. The plane is a vehicle to flight, not the object of our ultimate affection. But to people who see it as a total personal loss, it is too much to bare. For them ARFs and RTFs are great. They certainly don't want to crash them, but if they do, there is a lot less personal investment so they might actually bring them to the field and try to fly them with the help of an instructor. If it breaks, you buy a replacement part, fix it and try again.
That is how I feel about fixing. It is the price I pay for making a mistake. Fix it and try again! Do better and you won't have to fiX!
My issue is and always will be people giving others advice that is irresponsibly dangerous, such as when a person asks if he should attempt without an instructor. It never fails that some yahoo comes along saying, "Effin! YEAH! Go for it, Dude!!!"
It's too bad we can't hold people responsible for the advice they give.
10-20-2004 | 03:24 PM
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RE: Beginner recommendations
ORIGINAL: CafeenMan
If you fly, you'll crash. I crash so much that I've become an excellent builder.
If you fly, you'll crash. I crash so much that I've become an excellent builder.
After that I have purchased or been given a number of models that have already been built. Many have needed some kind of repair. Between my own inflicted damage, and fixing up these .... fix-er-uppers, I am becoming a builder, despite all my efforts to avoid building.
I actually built a ZAGI EPP Foam wing from wing cores alone. I don't really consider that "building", but it is getting close.
Some of the guys in the club kid me because I say I am not a builder, then walk into a meeting with a rebuilt wreck to ask the wizards to check it for allignment or any problems. Recently they smile and say I am becoming a builder. I deny it, but it is getting harder and harder to deny.
Who knows, I may actually build a plane from a box of sticks one day, if I fatally crash enough of the 15 planes I have today.
10-20-2004 | 03:29 PM
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RE: Beginner recommendations
ORIGINAL: aeajr
Funny you should say this. I started on an RTF. Then I tried an ARF. Then another RTF.
After that I have purchased or been given a number of models that have already been built. Many have needed some kind of repair. Between my own inflicted damage, and fixing up these .... fix-er-uppers, I am becoming a builder, despite all my efforts to avoid building.
I actually built a ZAGI EPP Foam wing from wing cores alone. I don't really consider that "building", but it is getting close.
Some of the guys in the club kid me because I say I am not a builder, then walk into a meeting with a rebuilt wreck to ask the wizards to check it for allignment or any problems. Recently they smile and say I am becoming a builder. I deny it, but it is getting harder and harder to deny.
Who knows, I may actually build a plane from a box of sticks one day, if I fatally crash enough of the 15 planes I have today.
ORIGINAL: CafeenMan
If you fly, you'll crash. I crash so much that I've become an excellent builder.
If you fly, you'll crash. I crash so much that I've become an excellent builder.
After that I have purchased or been given a number of models that have already been built. Many have needed some kind of repair. Between my own inflicted damage, and fixing up these .... fix-er-uppers, I am becoming a builder, despite all my efforts to avoid building.
I actually built a ZAGI EPP Foam wing from wing cores alone. I don't really consider that "building", but it is getting close.
Some of the guys in the club kid me because I say I am not a builder, then walk into a meeting with a rebuilt wreck to ask the wizards to check it for allignment or any problems. Recently they smile and say I am becoming a builder. I deny it, but it is getting harder and harder to deny.
Who knows, I may actually build a plane from a box of sticks one day, if I fatally crash enough of the 15 planes I have today.
Suicide is another option, but I don't recommend it. As much as we builders are looked down upon, we're still the ones who know how to fix everything in the house, so that gets us out of the closet they keep us in if only for a short a while.
10-20-2004 | 10:51 PM
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RE: Beginner recommendations
Builders are to be admired for their craftsmanship and their talent. Just because everyone doesn't aspire to be a builder doesn't mean we don't respect what you do.
I see you are using a comptuer. When did you build it? You buy your computers RTR? You don't build them yourself? You are missing the best part of computers if you don't build it yourself first so when it boots up you can say, I built that!
Sound familiar?
Some like to build, some like to fly, some like to build, some just like to use computers.
There is room for everyone!
I see you are using a comptuer. When did you build it? You buy your computers RTR? You don't build them yourself? You are missing the best part of computers if you don't build it yourself first so when it boots up you can say, I built that!
Sound familiar?
Some like to build, some like to fly, some like to build, some just like to use computers.
There is room for everyone!
10-20-2004 | 11:20 PM
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RE: Beginner recommendations
ORIGINAL: aeajr
There is room for everyone!
There is room for everyone!
10-21-2004 | 06:15 AM
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RE: Beginner recommendations
ORIGINAL: Skybob
I haven't flown in 25 yrs & am thinking of buying a Kombat 40 trainer, although ugly, it looks almost indestructible.
Why don't more recommend this type of plane for those who are dead set on learning on their own?
Curious.
I haven't flown in 25 yrs & am thinking of buying a Kombat 40 trainer, although ugly, it looks almost indestructible.
Why don't more recommend this type of plane for those who are dead set on learning on their own?
Curious.
Did you buy your trainer? How are you doing with your flying? If this was a good trainer/refresher plane, why not share your experience.
10-26-2004 | 01:18 PM
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RE: Beginner recommendations
I have four planes, two Duraplanes and two Airmadillos. Of the four I have the most fun flying the Airmadillo. It's got a honking huge 75 on it and just zips along. I was out of RC since 1983 and just restarted into it this year. I started back into it with a Xtreme Electric. I can't recommend the electrics at all now. Just my feelings about it, for each their own. I have two Xtremes and two Challengers setting here that are going to the attic with my other junk. But for trainers, these Airmadillos are hard to beat. The Duraplanes take about as much punishment and really, are just as much fun. I'm just really partial to this big old red Airmadillo Trainer 60.
Here's the website again for the Airmadillo forums. We're up to 11 users on there now! http://www.airmadillo40.com
Tim
Here's the website again for the Airmadillo forums. We're up to 11 users on there now! http://www.airmadillo40.com
Tim
