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Old 03-09-2005 | 10:31 AM
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i was curious if when your instructing a new pilot and have worked with him several times. would it bother you if he used another instuctor? kinda like cheating on ya? or is it no big deal?
Old 03-09-2005 | 10:33 AM
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When I was learning I was passed off to several Instructors to get a different perspective on different fling styles.
Old 03-09-2005 | 10:49 AM
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it's no big deal. since it's free, i can't imagine instructors would really be upset.
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As an instructor it dosent bother me at all when a student does that,for the simple reason that another intructor may be able to get accross to the student that I havent been able to do.We all have different teaching methods and I think it helps the student to get a different perspective as a rule we generally share in intructing duties with a new student pilot for that reason
Old 03-09-2005 | 10:52 AM
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As well as agreeing with Tazc3, it can be difficult to arrange regular flying slots if you're doing shift work, so it's sometimes best to have a back-up plan.
Old 03-09-2005 | 11:42 AM
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Tazc3 has it right. There should a synergistic relationship between student & instructor, but not all pairings are made in heaven -- this does not imply any lack of capability on the part of the instructor -- just that not everyone fits. When you mix that in with the limited availability of any single instructor, you inevitably will be spending stick time with several different individuals.

You can have a "favorite" for sure, but be prepared to wait, or fly with the ones that are available.
Old 03-09-2005 | 12:26 PM
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Usually there is no friction. One time I did have another instructor get in a huff when he showed up at the field several hours late and found me instructing one of 'his' students. In our club any instructor available is encouraged to help the newer pilots.
Old 03-09-2005 | 12:34 PM
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I've been told at my club that any instructor is your instructor. Basically, they're all there to help, so get your training from anyone that's available when you're at the field.
Old 03-09-2005 | 12:48 PM
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Most of the people in my club help out with instruction. I think for the most part there is always 2 or 3 guys standing around that could help at any time. I always felt comfortable if someone was within 10 feet or so for the first few flights, so that they could run up and save my butt! I spent a hole winter teaching myself to fly on FMS simulator so I only really had to get over my nervous jitters. I have been flying now for 3 years and I still have the jitters! I also appreciate help with new planes on there maiden. It sure is hard to get those rates tuned down while you are flying
Old 03-09-2005 | 01:06 PM
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I feel most instructors, including myself, will not mind. Often a second opinion might spot a bad habit I have missed or develop a method of teaching a maneuver that I have been unable to get across to a particular student. If one instructor is flying another is usually helping to check out a new plane or ground school or something else. Rotating tasks also eases pressures on instructors and allows them more personal time for their flying.
Old 03-09-2005 | 01:17 PM
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i guess ill have to get over my guilt. the guy that trained me, met me at any time and was real helpfull. but the one morning he couldent make it someone else had me solo. and ive always felt so guilty for robbing him of the joy of getting to see me solo for the first time. but maybee its not that big of a deal.
Old 03-09-2005 | 01:25 PM
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Thank him for what he did for you and show him what you have lerned. He will appreciate that a hole lot more. You will still need someone to keep an eye on you, for a few more weeks.
Old 03-09-2005 | 01:51 PM
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Go back to him when you want to be shown an advanced maneuver.
Old 03-09-2005 | 10:51 PM
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I'm a flight instructor in full size airplanes. I am however, new to remote control airplanes. I encourage my students to fly with different instructors to find one they really like. Some instructors don't like it when I fly with their students, but I don't care if any of my students try a different guy. He might do some things better than me, and if I really suck I will find out quickly. I haven't lost any students to other instructors yet.
Old 03-10-2005 | 10:24 AM
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Ditto cficfiimei:

Back in the '60s, before I ever flew RC ('71 or so) I instructed in both the T-33 and T-38 (USAF). It was standard for a pre-solo student to get a ride or two with another instructor pilot (IP). It always helped as maybe the student picked up something one IP would miss, and if all went well both the student and the IP gained extra confidence. If not then it was time for a review and critique of what went wrong.

For the beginner RC pilots here, as most have stated in this thread, get instruction when and where you can. In my club it is encouraged to get a couple different instructors on the way to being cleared solo. Actually, in my club, any solo-qualified pilot can buddy-cord a pre-solo student, however only the designated instructors can administer our solo-checkout and certification.

As one that for years did most of the instructing in my club, I am VERY HAPPY when a student does get help from someone else. Instructing does get to be time consuming, and I do love being able to fly something besides a dad-burn TRAINER!!
Old 03-10-2005 | 10:42 AM
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There is a very SUBTLE POINT about changing instructors and it has to do with COMMUNICATIONS.
I have actually witnessed incidents caused by the Instructor (new) assuming that the student already has certain moves mastered.
If I take on a beginner for instruction, as we move ahead I learn what strong points and where the weak points are. This works like a data base.
There are certain students that move away and show apparent proficiency in flight. The new instructor then somewhat relaxes and gets hit by the unsuspected "weakness"....this could be anything, turning right turns, or no perception of approaching stall, etc.
My preference is to keep the student from start to finish.
Nowadays this is becoming more and more do-able since the newbies show up with a bunch of
simulator time behind them which reduces the training time considerably.
I was actually able to graduate a 25year old rank beginner in about 4 hours (one day) TOTAL
Old 03-11-2005 | 12:33 AM
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I was actually able to graduate a 25year old rank beginner in about 4 hours (one day) TOTAL
That's good I suppose however you have more faith than I do. I refuse to solo a newbie until he gets to operate both left and right patterns plus at least 2 different days with a rather full flight line.

In addition at my club we keep a large notebook with student grade sheets. An Instructor can quickly reference the student's progress and both logged strong and weak points.

I would consider myself detrimental to the safety of the other club members and their guests if I send a person out there to fly on their flight line, and that person had little or no experience in the pattern being flown that day, or had not flown with at least 4 of the 5 flight stations in operation.

41 years of professional flying taught me one thing for certain: The simulator can well teach one the procedures and most techniques of flying an airplane, but it will never replace real world activity for learning common sense good judgment. Definitely so with the inexperienced RC fledgling.

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