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Old 09-25-2002 | 03:56 AM
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I landed a dead stick today and it was beautiful not one bounce in it. I asked about a dead stick landing and my papa said, "THIS IS A DEAD STICK" and cut the throttle trim so I had to land.

I met a famous flyer today to.

desert mouse(Cody)
Old 09-25-2002 | 06:01 AM
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Default Way to go....Cody !

Desert Mouse....now you know a "Dead Stick" is nothing
to worry about. Keep practicing and learning as much as
you can. Is this a fun hobby, or what !!!
Old 09-25-2002 | 11:03 AM
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Hey Cody, excellent!

The only real difference between a powered landing and a deadstick is attitude. When the power is gone, your head tells you that you have only one shot at it and you concentrate just a bit more.

Then you realize that you can do it and your head doesn't play with you anymore.

At our club, the deadsticks seems to be the best landings new and old fliers have.

Now please stop making us jealous about all the time you are getting at the field

Keep it up. If you learn something each trip, no matter how small, think how much you'll know and be able to share with others when you're older.

Take care

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I don't know haw many time I have hopped the landings with the motor running and greased the landings on dead stick and rolled it to a stop at my feet and had the guys applaud when I did it.
I also have had some beautiful landings as a test pilot and instructor. I had a friend who had a stick that he had not flown yet he asked me to wring it out for him and see how it would fly. I flew it twice and made some small adjustments between with great landings. He then flew it and he had a little flutter I said you better land and we should check it out. He made one more pass and started calling me because he lost his ailerons. I took it from him and brought it around and greased it and rolled it to my feet. He said I was the best pilot he had seen. I am not a great pilot I had great concentration. I have often ground looped my Smith Mini Plane on take off and landing on the pavement. Concentration is the key!!!
Old 09-26-2002 | 05:54 PM
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Cody, some of the best landings I've made were Dead Stick, same with most flyers. I think its because all your concentration is on that plane.
Old 09-27-2002 | 01:24 AM
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I'm also a befinning flier, an ol fa*t, but a new flier.
I had kind of lost some confidence recently, due to being away from it for a couple of weeks, and a couple of dumb thumb incidents previously. Seemed like I was going backwards on my learning curve. Today I finally got a couple of flights in and things were starting to come around. On my last flight of the day I had a dead stick. My instructor said, take it on in, you can do it, just focus on what you have learned so far. He was right, I did it and now my confidence is back. Experience is the second best teacher, a good instructor is the best. I'm lucky enough to be getting both.
As flyboy Dave said, now that I have done it I wont be so paranoid of it happening again.

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To DWIGHT: WELCOME ABOARD!!!


The dreaded "deadstick"

They can still be intimidating! Especially with a "snappy" aircraft.

My instructor and I used to take the plane into the air and bring it back down to an "Idle".. We could not idle up unless it was to literally Save the plane. It got to be fun and I really looked forward to it. Plus it taught me a whole lot on DEADSTICKS.

Cody, hasn't began this phase of training YET, But it's coming.....

It's simple and fun: One of you take it to elevation and cut the throttle to idle! hand the transmitter to the other and watch them land or attempt to land it. Like anything else you put it in a relatively good position to start, then slowly work your way up to tougher and tougher. This works best with a "funstyle" plane, like a High wing semi-symetrical airfoil, or a low wing trainer.

The mouse is working on "Loops,rolls,and hammerheads.(stall turns to some of you)" He's really getting the symmetry of the loop now, working the elevator, going up, and coming down. Plus throttle management. I believe it's getting real close for that "second plane". We had fairly heavy winds with "Gust" this morning. the Mouse took off flew a couple of straight levels,added a couple of loops and watched as his plane was thrown around the sky from the gust. Then he shot a couple of touch and go's (the wind was right down the runway) Finally, I'm the one that said to bring it in. I took my AVENGER up and the wind beat it around also. Tried to do a few "Turnaround" maneuvers, but the wind just threw it off course.

There's always tomorrow!! The weather report said, we were in for a few days of relatively heavy winds. We may be grounded. "BUMMER"




GREAT FLYING TO YOU ALL,

DESERT RATT
Old 09-27-2002 | 02:27 PM
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RE: the gusting winds, I have gained a lot of respect for the wind in the past few flights. My instructor says, learn to fly when it's windy (within reason, not hurricane forces :^)and you'll be able to fly a lot more days out of the year. It is kind of fun to throttle back going into a headwind and watch the plane just sit still, (or go backwards) and the gust reallllly keeps you on your toes. I am finding that the typical underpowered trainer with a lot of dihedral in the wings is not really a suitable plane in the wind though, as it seems to get tossed around a lot more than my instructors 4* does. I am going to a 4* next, but will fly my trainer quite a bit more before I take the new plane up by myself.

Desert Ratt, it sounds like you and Cody are building some great memories right now. To find a mutual hobby that you both enjoy is one of the greatest things a young man and his dad or grandad can share.

Have fun and keep us posted,

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Congrads Cody!!
Now you can start flying gliders too!

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These things will land with the motor running??? I drain the tank every flight. No need wasting time drainning it if for some reason I cant get another flight. Just run it dry.
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Hi Cody. I can't tell you how impressed I am with you and papa. You really seem to have it together for someone of your years. Not only in your flying skills but in your life in general. I hope there comes a day when I can meet you both in person and shake both of your hands. I know people that are 6 times your age that could learn something from you, wait, I fall into that category. You probably could tell that by my reply, I just learned how to get on the INTERNET last week and have basically no computer skills, and do not even talk computer, but I'm finding it runs a close second place with flying. I could also use help with punctuation and sentence, paragraph structure and so on. But I think I get the message across. Any how to Mr. Rat and Mr. mouse great job, keep it up, maybe some will rub off on some of the rest of us that could use it. And always remember if it don't look good it won't fly. Hummmm maybe that's my problem.
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Hi waunk: You are absolutly right! It seems the uglier my planes get the better they fly. Not to mention I seem to need a crash to get them to fly right for me, hence the nickname $ircra$halot. The saying remember if it don't look good it won't fly, hummmm maybe that's my problem, is just an attemt at humor, ha ha! Anyhow if I remember you are a new freind as well so good luck and may all your crashes <it's something that seems inevitable> produce a better flying airplane. Always remember if it don't look good it won't fly Hummm maybe that's my problem.
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I agree I have a couple of ugly planes that fly great I only recover then when I am ready to sell most of my damage comes from my sons not being careful and poking a prop through the covering.
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Hi Wauck: sorry to hear of your misfortune. However you may have saved a plane or 2 for me. I live at 6100' alt. so more power is the norm, yes I do watch home improvement (grunting). If the old gray pea could figure out how I would probably try to retro a small block, heck big block V-8 into a 1/2-a plane. Somehow I don't think i'm alone. Thank god for these forums I've learned so much, hurts the gray pea but no pain no gain. To all who post here, thanks. Rcuniverse rocks AND rolls.
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Hi Wauck: I fly at a private piece of land in Colorado Springs Co. Unfortunately it is being developed and we are told we will lose it in the next year or so. Gets pretty crowded because the Black Forrest club just lost their field to the same thing and have migrated down to fly with us. That leaves us with 3 clubs that are within 30 miles, one only allows IMAA size planes, one charges more for dues than I can afford, the other has limited membership. I may be out your way before it is all said and done. Sounds like a good plan to get your Balsa Nova aloft again, hope it works out well. Also sounds like the moki still has a home, atta way to go, don't let terra firma control your destiny. Just noticed you said if, you build another Balsa Nova, hope you do I've heard they do fly well. How about reinforcing the firewall and tail feathers?

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