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Old 05-20-2005 | 10:08 PM
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For my third plane i am thinking of something scale. I want to go with either warbirds... The pattern type, or just a good cessna or piper. I would like it to be an ARF or very easy quick. If warbird it would need to be an arf. I would also like it to be about a 60 size too. Any opinions? The thing about the warbirds is that i have heard they fly like bricks, so i really would rather have something else. This is just some first ideas. It will probably be a christmas present at earliest..

EDIT: I would like it to be under 300 for plane only and it would be ok if it was sport-scale such as the lanier F4
Old 05-21-2005 | 12:55 AM
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The Hanger 9 Mustangs (ARFs) are nice and not heavy.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...ProdID=HAN2775

They have another called "Marie" and there is a P40 also.

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Old 05-21-2005 | 05:29 AM
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Model Tech's P-47 is in your price range and very easy to fly. Might be a bit much for a .60, though. If you don't mine WWI, I can highly reccomend the Model Tech SE-5A Arf, not .60 sized but a very nice flier. World Models also makes a .60 sized Spitfire which is supposed to be a very good flier.

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Old 05-21-2005 | 07:56 AM
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If you want a nice flying warbird (does not fly like a "brick" ) take a look at the SkyShark kits http://www.skysharkrc.com/ They are a "full build" kit, however, the instructions are quite clear and easy to follow. If you take your time you will have no problems.

I feel the Aichi Val might be an ideal kit for you. It has fixed gear so you don't have to worry about retracts and it takes a 45 - 61 2 stroke.
Old 05-21-2005 | 10:39 AM
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Thanks for all the replies.

What about the non war planes?
Old 05-21-2005 | 10:54 AM
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Goldberg Tiger 2 in 60 size, a nice low winger.
http://www.carlgoldbergproducts.com/tiger2.htm KIT
http://www.carlgoldbergproducts.com/tiger60ARF.htm ARF

www.omnimodels.com carries both. $110 for the kit and $200 for the ARF.
OMNI P/N's GBGA0068 AND GBGA1068 respectively.

or
Something in the Stik series.
Old 05-21-2005 | 02:38 PM
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Chad,
I know that you're excited about this hobby, but let's get #2 finished and in the air first.
Old 05-21-2005 | 03:10 PM
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lol. I am waiting on you ken
Old 05-22-2005 | 04:05 PM
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Default RE: 3rd plane Arf or easy kit.

As a third plane, I would still stay away from warbirds. Go with an advanced aerobatic palne (Twist, Uproar, Tiger II, Four Star 40, etc..) Warbirds sometimes have nasty characteristics that can bite you hard. Snap-stalli (or sometimes tip stalls), higher stall speeds (especially during landings), longer take off rolls, not as forgiving in flight. Experience is the key to being able to fly a warbird, if you don't have a lot of it under your belt, stay away. That shiny P-51 in the window is pretty to look at, but unless you want to bring it home from the field in a bag, get lots of flight time first.
Old 05-22-2005 | 09:06 PM
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ok. What will the stall speed be like on a 4 star. I have one in the process..
Will it be faster than my trainer?
Old 05-23-2005 | 08:14 AM
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The stall speed on a 4* is a very slow walking speed which is probably down around 3 mph! Any faster than that and the plane wants to keep flying and also it doesn't like to lose altitude and thats what I don't like about them. Throttle up however and its a pretty fast plane with a 40 and a screamer with a 46 on it. The reason a lot of flyers like it for a 2nd type plane is that if things get carried away, you can throttle way down and just fly around very slowly until you catch your breath without worrying about it stalling out on them because the plane has such a low wing loading. [8D]

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