I picked up a tower hobbies kaos 60 kit the other day from a friend for 50.00. I was wondering if anyone out there has any advise for this bird. I have flown an avistar for about a year now and want to try my hand at something a little different. I was told the plane was pretty gentle but landed a little faster than my avistar. I was planning on putting a tower hobbies .75 engine on it. The instruction booklet seems pretty straight forward. I'll post some pictures when I get started.

Gentle? I've never heard of a gentle Kaos 60. I guess you could fly it gently and that would be advisable if you want it for a second plane.

I have to agree with Bruce. When the Kaos first hit the market it really made a huge name for itself as a plane that would do just about anything you wanted it to. It's still the same way, an incredible flying airplane. We have 4 of them flying at our field and I've flown several of them, great flying airplanes.

As Bruce said, I wouldn't recommend one as a second plane. Maybe a 3rd plane after spending some time on a 4-star or a Tiger II

Ken

agree with the other especially if using a .75.my first kaos used an o s goldhead 60 and was great for doing top hats.vertical performance was fine with that engine.maybe for the first flights use a finer pitch larger diameyer prop.no more than probably a 5 pitchmax if possible if the plane has a light wing loading 4 pitch.others may disagree but it will be like driving a car in 2nd gear.no matter how fast the engine goes the speed does not change much so that you have a bit more reaction time,as you get used to it you can use a coarser pitch prop.

I guess I'll put off flying it after what I read here. I didn't know it was that hard to fly. I'll probably get a big stik arf and fly that while I'm building the kaos. I'm all set up with a building area. I have a door and pink foam insulation as a building surface. I've already started construction. The tail section is done and I've started on the wing. I'll try to get some pictures if I can find my camera cable. What kind of servos should I install in this plane? Are standard servos OK for a 60 size plane? Also would a saito 91 four stroke power this plane ok (I'm reconsidering engine choice).
Thanks in advance for help.

I disagree. I think the Kaos is a good and Honest airplane. If you have flown an Avistar for a year, then you probably are ready for a Kaos.

But I would recommend a good 60. Airframes determine how fast an airplane goes, not engines. As the plane goes faster , the drag increases in a non linear way. It takes much more horsepower to go just a little faster. Now, a larger engine will increase the climb performance, if that is what you want. But it isn't neccessary.

If you get an experienced pilot to test fly your Kaos and help you set it up properly so that it is docile and the controls are somewhat limited, you will enjoy it very much.

It goes where you point it. It doesn't pull itself out of a dive. It doesn't roll itself right side up. It just keeps going where you pointed it and in the attitude that you commanded. To me, that isn't unstable, to me that IS stable.

It is a larger jump in performance than most people are willing to take. But that doesn't mean that it is wrong for you. We are all different. The people that fly with you and know your skill level can advise you better than folks across the country. I consider the Avistar a great trainer. One year with an Avistar is very good experience. My guess is that you are ready.

I have some Very Good Advice!

When you get it up in the air and you ask your buddy if he wants to fly it, Never give the transmitter to him if he doesn't know where it's at!

Read this thread and you'll see why!

[link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3482884/tm.htm[/link]

Here is my progress so far. I am using robart hinges instead of the ca hinges. A couple guys at my field suggested this. I also went with a hardwood joiner rather than the wire joiner that was supplies with the kit. I had several people tell me to do this modification. I worked just about every evening well into the night since buying the kit and I hope to never have to smell ca again. Are standard servos ok for a .60 size plane or do I need something a litle stronger?

Standard servos will be fine. Todays standard servos are better quality than the servos that were used when this plane was orig designed and they worked fine. You appear to have done a nice job on the Robart hinges, my favorite also.
Take your time and set the controls up for mild flight at first and you will have a lot of fun. Increase the throws as you get better with it.

As posted earlier standard servos are fine. I used an OS 61fx in mine. if you decide on a four stroke decide now it may be to late. after you get the firewall in. depending on what four stroke you may have to position the engine out to far on the mount. The only things i remember changing from the plans. was making it a tail dragger with Bruce Tharpe Ventur 60 landing gear and wheel pants. Along with a Klett 60 size tailwheel assembly. Along with using two aileron servos. Along with a canopy from sig that was about the same shape but has a lip on it. Did'nt think i could get the supplied canopy to stay on with the minimal gluing are. The control throws listed in the book along with the balance points are a real good starting point. Have fun
Dennis