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Old 11-06-2002 | 02:04 AM
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Sorry about starting another tread last time promise.
Just looking for a nice $50-$90 kit 60" wingspan hig winged plane.
With of course nice looks (its important).
Ive been looking at alot of kits and seen some good ones but i just want to check on a nice beginner trainer kit.
Old 11-06-2002 | 02:28 AM
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Check out the Tower Trainer 40 kit, they are easy to build and fly really nice, I believe that they are around $50. But Everyone will chime in with their opinion and recommend what they, or a friend started with. But I think that the Tower Trainer 40 is one of the chepest kits available. You may also want to look at a 60 size kit, just because that are easier to see in the air.. but the 40 will be fine, it doest fly fast, which is what you want the engine and radio were some of the cheapest Tower Hobbies had too... the engine was gave to me but it is a Thunder Tiger GP42 ($50) and the radio is a Airtronics VG400 ($120)

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Old 11-06-2002 | 02:51 AM
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You may want to check out the Sig LT-25.
It has a 63" wingspan and flies great with only a .25 engine. It is an almost entirely balsa plane, with everything laser cut.

I usually see it at around 69 dollars.

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could i shove a .40 in the sig LT-25?
i wanna use the engine for my other planes that i hope to build.
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Lt-40, Kadet.
great kit to build, .40 will do.
Old 11-06-2002 | 03:08 AM
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If you want to use a .40, the LT -40 would be a better choice. I have had both planes and presently have a tailwheel version of the LT-40 under construction. I think I like the lighter balsa construction of the LT-25 better than tha plywood used in the fuselage of the LT-40, but the 40 is probably stronger.

Either one is a blast to fly, and large enough to be easy to see.

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Old 11-06-2002 | 03:24 AM
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i think im gonna go with the lt-40 s good 4 channel engine and a .40.
question does a plane like the lt-40 need airelons?
Old 11-06-2002 | 03:32 AM
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By the way how long would a LT-40 take for a beginner i need something to last me through the winter. A small price for living in Canada.
Old 11-06-2002 | 03:45 AM
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PaPa,

Good question. Building a kit can be fairly fast, or it can take as long as you like.
If it's your first build, you would do good to spend a lot of time reading the instructions and looking over the plans before anything ever gets near any glue.

Then you can spend some more time planning the radio installation, the covering, hinging and all the other details that go into a kit.

If it's not too cold you can make a test stand and have your new engine well broken in and ready before it goes on your plane.

None of this is hard to do, but it does involve a learning curve. If you can find someone in your area that has some experience with kits, engines and rc flying that can help you, it will make your project easier. Plus you can learn from the experience of other peoples' mistakes, instead of making them all yourself!!!

Another note. A lot of the Sig kits come with a book for beginners in rc flying; I don't remember the name of it. It's a little dated but the basics don't change
and you will find some ideas there as well.

Good luck,
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could i fly my plane in the winter?
just shovel out a nice run way in the snow?
or too risky
Old 11-07-2002 | 01:02 AM
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And is the only place to fly one of these plane at a licensed rc club or could i just go to a large field or park and fly it?
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And is the only place to fly one of these plane at a licensed rc club or could i just go to a large field or park and fly it?
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It is best to fly with an instructor regardless of the location.

Flying off snow is fine with skis (several types available) or use floats which then can be used off thawed pond next spring.

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Old 11-07-2002 | 01:35 AM
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If you fly from a NON-club field, check to make sure you are not within radio range of the nearest one (maybe three to five miles). If too close, you could receive radio interference from flyers at the club field or you could unknowingly cause a crash yourself. This is one more reason for flying with a club - they all have frequency controls of some kind in effect.
Old 11-07-2002 | 02:02 AM
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It's difficult to comprehend the amount of space necessary to fly these models in until you've actually been out at the flying field and seen what goes on. When I was 12 or 13, I daydreamed about flying a .40 P-51 in the soccer field behind the school. Somehow taking off and landing on the sidewalk made perfect sense to me then.
Old 11-07-2002 | 02:41 AM
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so i couldnt fly a sig LT-40 in a park or football field (when noone is there of cousre)?
Old 11-07-2002 | 03:08 AM
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Probably not. I've flown a .40-size plane in a set of 4 softball fields, but it really isn't very fun. You've got to worry about getting it in that small spot, along with the spectators that sort of thing draws.

Realisticly, you're going to have to go to a flying club if you don't live out in the middle of no where. You will need the hands on help and instruction you'll receive there, along with the space.
Old 11-07-2002 | 08:31 PM
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Lt-40 - good choice. You can fly with skis in winter or wheels on packed snow.
Get yourself an instructor and associate with a club before you go too far, so that you could use equipment they recommend.
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Originally posted by PaPa-NeGeorgeo
so i couldnt fly a sig LT-40 in a park or football field (when noone is there of cousre)?
No. Don't even think of it. On second thought don't even think about thinking about it.

I have spent the last several days working on a situation of "non soloed" pilots visiting the field. All attempts resulted in crashes. Some just totaled the plane. Some totaled the plane while hitting the tractor shed. One totaled while hitting the pilots car and made his wife who had just given him the plane for a birthday present very angry. All this is AGAINST club rules which membership hinges upon following.

Follow this rule: Don't do nothin stupid!

If you haven't flown before don't even try it alone.

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Old 11-08-2002 | 02:59 AM
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If anyone knows a good website that gives information on constructing kits or just info on rc planes please tell.
Thank you
Old 11-08-2002 | 02:26 PM
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Papa,
The people here have been giving you good advice, but you are not listening to it.

Listen to these words:

If you build an airplane, and then go out to fly it without having a qualified instructor teach you first, you are going to crash your airplane! There is no "maybe" in this statement. All of your hard work and money will be brought home in little bitty pieces. These things do NOT fly by themselves. YOU have to control them. And while you THINK you can do it, you CAN NOT!

Think about a video game. Have you ever played a video game and won the first time out? No, you drop in a coin, you lose 3 men, then you drop in another coin. And after MANY tries, and MANY coins, you manage to get through it.

This is the same thing, only you don't get 3 airplanes, you get one. And every time you fail, you drop in another few hundred bucks.

So how do we keep from going broke? We go to a club, and ask someone there to teach us how to fly.

If you don't do this, it won't matter what airplane you get, because you won't have it for very long.
Old 11-09-2002 | 02:58 AM
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Midwest has one of the best instruction book on the market. The plane is a great trainer. I've noticed they have just come out with an ARF version.....but I'd highly recommend the .40 kit!

Plus it looks 'cool'

Jerry
Old 11-09-2002 | 04:54 AM
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PaPa,

I'm cutting you loose. I can't take it anymore.

Go build your plane, go fly your plane, and bring a camcorder along so you can record it's flight. That way, you can show it to all your friends and say, "See? There's my plane, and watch OUT! NO! DAMN IT!"

You can save it and watch it for many years to come.

Good luck.

And one last thing... THIS IS THE SITE!
Old 11-09-2002 | 05:57 AM
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Papa,

There are nearly 30 clubs in your area. Follow the attached link and contact the closest club for flight instruction. You'll save yourself a lot of frustration and expense.

http://www.maac.ca/zones/clubs/clubs_g.html

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