Starter for cheap.
04-13-2006 | 12:59 AM
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Starter for cheap.
Alright, i put a bid on ebay for a starter, fuel pump, power panel, glow starter that plugs into the power panel and a few other small things, the starter is an old one but it was only used twice and the power panel and all the other stuff is older to, i was wondering, do you think that the proce is right for the product, the starter is a Royal Heavy Duty, the power panel is a magnum, the glow starter and electric fuel pump and everything else is unknown i put a id in for 30 dollars and shipping is 20 so around 50 buck for the whole set, the guy says they all work great and i have seen pictures and they look to be in great condition, could someone please tell me any info on this and if i made a good choice, the guy says that he will give a refund after 30 days if i have ne problems so thats not the issue, i was just wondering if these products are ne good for quality wise or anything that ne one has to say that would otherwise help me with my choice. thank you!!!!
04-13-2006 | 06:24 AM
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The seller is burning you with the shipping costs! This is the big deal on EBay now, sellers are charging way to much for shipping! Shipping for what you mentioned should only be $5-8.00.
04-13-2006 | 09:29 AM
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Tower sells a starter for $19, a power panel for $18, a glow starters for $13 and up, and fuel pumps starting around $10. So, for around $60 you can get all new components that come with a warrantee. If you could buy the stuff locally for around $30, it might be worth doing, but at $50, sight unseen, I'd buy new.
04-13-2006 | 09:34 AM
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I have to agree with Chuck. There are some things that I just don't like to buy used and those are electrical items. If you were buying them where you could pick up the item and inspect it, plug it in, and test it that would be one thing. But to buy it sight unseen just isn't something that I would risk doing. Even if the seller will give you your money back he's going to want you to ship the items back to him and that shipping will need to be paid by you.
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04-13-2006 | 11:26 AM
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The other thing is he won't refund the shipping. New people should stay away from e-bay until they have been in the hobby for a while. Unless you can put in your hand, cheap means cheap. Dennis
04-13-2006 | 12:37 PM
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My advice is to hope you get outbid. Sorry, but not a good deal in the long run. Often you can do better at a swap meet.
This is kinda like buying a used car battery. If it's so good, why's he selling it?
This is kinda like buying a used car battery. If it's so good, why's he selling it?
04-13-2006 | 02:33 PM
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The best thing you can do is forget the powerpanel, wired glow ingiter, corded starter, etc. Powerpanels are one of the snake oils of RC. Just put your money into a good starter, i.e. Sullivan Dynatron with Sullivan battery pack, get a glow igniter with a battery in it (and a meter if you think you need it). All you need to start the engine is the starter and igniter. No box to carry to the starting area, no cords, nothing to get caught in the prop.
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04-13-2006 | 03:11 PM
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thanks for the info people now im just hopping i get out bid and you know what if i dont im gonna end up one of those people who dont pay and get negative feedback because i dont want to buy some pieace of crap thats gonna work once and break or not work at all, thanks people.
04-13-2006 | 04:15 PM
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$20 for shipping isn't that bad. Considering it will probably cost $10-15 to ship and the other $5 is for packaging and driving to the post office. Seems fair to me.
04-13-2006 | 05:57 PM
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Why would you burn the seller just because you made a bad purchase decision? If you don't follow through, he'll have to eat the selling costs. He was upfront with you about shipping, you saw the products displayed, and you chose to bid. The only person you should blame is yourself. Be a man and live with your bid. Kep whatever you want and put the other stuff back on e-bay....it's not like you'll be out a ton of money.
04-13-2006 | 06:38 PM
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The best thing you can do is forget the powerpanel, wired glow ingiter, corded starter, etc. Powerpanels are one of the snake oils of RC.
The best thing you can do is forget the powerpanel, wired glow ingiter, corded starter, etc. Powerpanels are one of the snake oils of RC.
04-13-2006 | 06:40 PM
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thanks for the info people now im just hopping i get out bid and you know what if i dont im gonna end up one of those people who dont pay and get negative feedback because i dont want to buy some pieace of crap thats gonna work once and break or not work at all, thanks people.
thanks for the info people now im just hopping i get out bid and you know what if i dont im gonna end up one of those people who dont pay and get negative feedback because i dont want to buy some pieace of crap thats gonna work once and break or not work at all, thanks people.
04-13-2006 | 09:15 PM
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From: Tracy,
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I gotta agree with everyone else, escpecially Mode one. That is the new theme on ebay, I see it all the time even on these junkie little 2ch toy airplanes, shipping anywhere from from $28 to $48. It's a joke. For awhile there was some guys on there selling what looked like really nice ARFs, but with no instruction manuals available, I think he was selling factory seconds, that were'nt up to par so they dumped them cheap because they didn't want to put their name on it. He never could give me a manufacturer's name so I could try to get a hold of the manual. He just kept insisting they were never made with a manual. So I passed on it. Later I read several people complaing about this plane. Anymore it's hard to find anything worth buying on EJUNK without getting raped on the shipping. Buyer beware!!
04-13-2006 | 10:08 PM
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I have to agree with Chuck. There are some things that I just don't like to buy used and those are electrical items. If you were buying them where you could pick up the item and inspect it, plug it in, and test it that would be one thing. But to buy it sight unseen just isn't something that I would risk doing. Even if the seller will give you your money back he's going to want you to ship the items back to him and that shipping will need to be paid by you.
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I have to agree with Chuck. There are some things that I just don't like to buy used and those are electrical items. If you were buying them where you could pick up the item and inspect it, plug it in, and test it that would be one thing. But to buy it sight unseen just isn't something that I would risk doing. Even if the seller will give you your money back he's going to want you to ship the items back to him and that shipping will need to be paid by you.
Ken
I too agree I got a electric starter at a swap meet, it works, but sometime it won't shut off without fooling with the hand switch, did'nt pay that much for it and I'm sure the seller knew about it but for $25.00 I thought I could'nt go wrong, just a pain to use though, one day when time permits I will take it apart and see what make it tick.
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04-13-2006 | 10:14 PM
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After getting um....(insert past-tense of unpleasant experience here) on ebay twice in a row, I gave up on it completely. It does'nt matter how good the deal seems I will forgo the 'any idiot can sell his junk'-crowd and look here on RCU, my LHS's, Local clubs and internet retailers.
One exception I have is 'local pickup'. I drive all over SoCal anyway and if I can see the item before I pay for it, I will. I think you can do better for your field equipment...I hope you are outbid.
One exception I have is 'local pickup'. I drive all over SoCal anyway and if I can see the item before I pay for it, I will. I think you can do better for your field equipment...I hope you are outbid.
04-14-2006 | 03:47 AM
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I too agree I got a electric starter at a swap meet, it works, but sometime it won't shut off without fooling with the hand switch, did'nt pay that much for it and I'm sure the seller knew about it but for $25.00 I thought I could'nt go wrong, just a pain to use though, one day when time permits I will take it apart and see what make it tick.
I too agree I got a electric starter at a swap meet, it works, but sometime it won't shut off without fooling with the hand switch, did'nt pay that much for it and I'm sure the seller knew about it but for $25.00 I thought I could'nt go wrong, just a pain to use though, one day when time permits I will take it apart and see what make it tick.
04-14-2006 | 10:12 PM
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ORIGINAL: piper_chuck
If it's a Sullivan you can buy replacement switches directly from them for about $8. Two years ago I replaced the switch on my 25 year old starter. This is one of the reasons I often suggest spending the extra money on their products.
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I too agree I got a electric starter at a swap meet, it works, but sometime it won't shut off without fooling with the hand switch, did'nt pay that much for it and I'm sure the seller knew about it but for $25.00 I thought I could'nt go wrong, just a pain to use though, one day when time permits I will take it apart and see what make it tick.
I too agree I got a electric starter at a swap meet, it works, but sometime it won't shut off without fooling with the hand switch, did'nt pay that much for it and I'm sure the seller knew about it but for $25.00 I thought I could'nt go wrong, just a pain to use though, one day when time permits I will take it apart and see what make it tick.
I have other starters so I'm not stuck, but thanks for the info, I will order the switch.
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04-15-2006 | 06:12 AM
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Yes it is a Sullivan, must be a common problem with them, but 25 years that's good although this one don't look more than 2 years old.
I have other starters so I'm not stuck, but thanks for the info, I will order the switch.
ORIGINAL: piper_chuck
If it's a Sullivan you can buy replacement switches directly from them for about $8. Two years ago I replaced the switch on my 25 year old starter. This is one of the reasons I often suggest spending the extra money on their products.
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I too agree I got a electric starter at a swap meet, it works, but sometime it won't shut off without fooling with the hand switch, did'nt pay that much for it and I'm sure the seller knew about it but for $25.00 I thought I could'nt go wrong, just a pain to use though, one day when time permits I will take it apart and see what make it tick.
I too agree I got a electric starter at a swap meet, it works, but sometime it won't shut off without fooling with the hand switch, did'nt pay that much for it and I'm sure the seller knew about it but for $25.00 I thought I could'nt go wrong, just a pain to use though, one day when time permits I will take it apart and see what make it tick.
I have other starters so I'm not stuck, but thanks for the info, I will order the switch.
04-15-2006 | 08:30 AM
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I've seen many of these threads on buying cheap, and to this day don't understand why?. A golfer will pay $300 for a club that might take 2 strokes off off his game and he will have 5 more in the garage. A bass fisherman will pay $40,000 for a boat to go faster, not to mention the $300 props and the newest baits. A shooter will pay anything for a good reloader and the best ammo. RC people will beat $50 to death. We want used prices on new, dirt pricing on used and if you get it someone will tell you that you paid to much. Every time you take off there's a good chance the plane will go home in a bag. Why risk cheap? I've had cheap and I have had new. I will always take new over cheap any day. Good goes home in one piece most of the time. I've seen cheap end up in the trash can at our field too many times. Dennis
04-15-2006 | 08:46 AM
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It's unfortunate that people have been burned on Ebay. I have been selling and buying on there for years and can say that I have over 450 positive feedbacks and only 1 negative. Also I have about 150 positive feedbacks on another auction site and no negatives. Mostly what I have sold is hobby items that I didn't need anymore because of changing interests and I have never sold any junk. Some of the items have been used and I very carefully describe the item and anything I know about it. As a seller I would like to recommend to buyers that they use caution in bidding and buying and make sure of what they are bidding on. Do some research on the product, check the shipping costs before bidding, check the sellers feedbacks, and follow through with your end of the transaction. Ebay has very little to do with the sellers and buyers on there. I've had people buy from me that didn't read the ad, or didn't know what it was they were buying. I had one buyer that lives in Australia and bought an item and then left feedback saying that he didn't need it. ??? Now how weird is that? How am I supposed to know what a guy needs or doesn't need. He bid on it. A friend of mine works at Home Depot and deals with people all the time that don't make any sence. He said one customer wanted to take a look at a product that was all boxed up and wanted it out of the box. Then once he saw it and wanted to buy it, he wanted one that hadn't been opened. I think the bottom line with Ebay is make sure as much as you can of the seller and make sure of what you are getting and if you have any doubts about the seller, don't bid.
04-15-2006 | 03:12 PM
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It's unfortunate that people have been burned on Ebay. I have been selling and buying on there for years and can say that I have over 450 positive feedbacks and only 1 negative. Also I have about 150 positive feedbacks on another auction site and no negatives. Mostly what I have sold is hobby items that I didn't need anymore because of changing interests and I have never sold any junk. Some of the items have been used and I very carefully describe the item and anything I know about it. As a seller I would like to recommend to buyers that they use caution in bidding and buying and make sure of what they are bidding on. Do some research on the product, check the shipping costs before bidding, check the sellers feedbacks, and follow through with your end of the transaction. Ebay has very little to do with the sellers and buyers on there. I've had people buy from me that didn't read the ad, or didn't know what it was they were buying. I had one buyer that lives in Australia and bought an item and then left feedback saying that he didn't need it. ??? Now how weird is that? How am I supposed to know what a guy needs or doesn't need. He bid on it. A friend of mine works at Home Depot and deals with people all the time that don't make any sence. He said one customer wanted to take a look at a product that was all boxed up and wanted it out of the box. Then once he saw it and wanted to buy it, he wanted one that hadn't been opened. I think the bottom line with Ebay is make sure as much as you can of the seller and make sure of what you are getting and if you have any doubts about the seller, don't bid.
It's unfortunate that people have been burned on Ebay. I have been selling and buying on there for years and can say that I have over 450 positive feedbacks and only 1 negative. Also I have about 150 positive feedbacks on another auction site and no negatives. Mostly what I have sold is hobby items that I didn't need anymore because of changing interests and I have never sold any junk. Some of the items have been used and I very carefully describe the item and anything I know about it. As a seller I would like to recommend to buyers that they use caution in bidding and buying and make sure of what they are bidding on. Do some research on the product, check the shipping costs before bidding, check the sellers feedbacks, and follow through with your end of the transaction. Ebay has very little to do with the sellers and buyers on there. I've had people buy from me that didn't read the ad, or didn't know what it was they were buying. I had one buyer that lives in Australia and bought an item and then left feedback saying that he didn't need it. ??? Now how weird is that? How am I supposed to know what a guy needs or doesn't need. He bid on it. A friend of mine works at Home Depot and deals with people all the time that don't make any sence. He said one customer wanted to take a look at a product that was all boxed up and wanted it out of the box. Then once he saw it and wanted to buy it, he wanted one that hadn't been opened. I think the bottom line with Ebay is make sure as much as you can of the seller and make sure of what you are getting and if you have any doubts about the seller, don't bid.
I agree with what you're saying. I personally have never been burned on ebay, because I have the common sense to do exactly as you suggest. I have from the very beginning. While I don't do any selling I have bought 12 or 13 times on ebay with 100% positive feedback, Just like I do here as both a buyer & seller of a few items. In the begining ebay was great. When it was still just private parties dealing with each other. It soon turned into ebay stores & has gone straight downhill from there! I can't count the number of times that I have seen an item on ebay with a starting bid price of as much or even more than I can go down to the store & buy it for. Then they want like $28 shipping to boot! Any more the only time I buy on ebay is when I run into the rare individual who has positive feedback, a reasonable price, & a fair & actual shipping rate.
04-15-2006 | 04:02 PM
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Like to spend money? Get a Radio South Glow driver for about $80 and be done with it. They are the best. Another very worthwhile investment I have made. 
Best inexpensive starter is a hobbico starter zip ties to a 12V gel cell... I had one for a long time till I upgraded to a bp-rc starter.
Theres another thread here recently on starters, i have the link to the BP starter over there.
Best inexpensive starter is a hobbico starter zip ties to a 12V gel cell... I had one for a long time till I upgraded to a bp-rc starter.
Theres another thread here recently on starters, i have the link to the BP starter over there.
04-17-2006 | 02:44 PM
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i Contacted the seller and told him that i would pay for all the relisting fee's and everything and he was greatfull that i at least told him that i didnt plan on paying for it, ne way i lost the bid thank god and decided to buy the whole set from hobbico, a heavy duty starter, glow starter, gell 12V battery, electric fuel pump, power panel, and field box, it was a little expensive but now at least i know that it will be reliable, the kit came with some other odds and ends but i cant remember what they were, the whole thing costs me $119, plus i got a $50 dollar mail in rebate, so i think i made out ok by only really paying around $70 dollars in the end.
04-17-2006 | 03:15 PM
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I don't know why he didn't mention it but the bid closed at $43.01 for some LUCKY guy. 
Hey, eye of the beholder and all that. As long as everyone comes out happy, it's a good deal.
Hey, eye of the beholder and all that. As long as everyone comes out happy, it's a good deal.
