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Old 09-28-2006 | 10:19 AM
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Well,

I feel its time to move from the Superstar MKII Nitro trainer I have been flying for a the past several months. Between weekly flight and the SIM I have grown bored with it. I have read a few "second plane" posts here and they all very a good bit. What would you recommend for a second plane that was fairly large? I tend to gravitate twords larger aircraft. Transport is not a real issue since I have a full size truck. I saw a few SIG had that looked nice (four star, rascal 110). Any other suggestions for a mid (over .40 ) size aircraft would be great too.

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Most of the "good" second planes come in .40 , .60, and even some in 1.20 size.
Goldberg Tiger Comes in all three sizes. (my first pick)
Sig's 4 Star comes in .40 and .60 size
Great Planes Supersportster comes the 3 sizes.

Of course you can get a Stick in each size too.
Old 09-28-2006 | 12:21 PM
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I see... They look good. I didnt see the Super Sportster in any size bigger than .40 though. I will probably go a bit larger than that but you never know. Thanks for the advice. Any others?
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I Kits don't scare you, try a Goldberg Chipmunk!
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Sig 4 star 60
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I would look at the Tiger 60 or, if you like floaty 2 mph landings then look at the 4* 60. An improved version of the 4* 60 is the Venture.
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ORIGINAL: CHassan

Sig's 4 Star comes in .40 and .60 size
It also comes in 120 size.
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Thanks for the info-

I take it the Venture does not come ARF? It looks nice but I am not up for a full build just yet!
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The 120 4* looks great too.. No ARF there either! I may just go with the 4* 60. Seems a solid plane. Since I feel I need to stay in the ARF realm for now, thats about the best out of them it seems.
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Don't under estimate your building ability. I have read where flyers have bought the Venture as a "Winter" project and were ticked off when the kit fell together practically by itself in a couple of weeks! With the good kits notched and tabbed the fuselage can be pieced together in a couple of hours. With good instructions and photos to show what parts you will be working with, kits aren't hard to build. You just have to be able to read and follow the steps.
In fact unless you have built a few kits, some ARFS may give you trouble because they may only have a few pics and no instructions. The ARF makers assume you learned the basics when you built your trainer! [X(]
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I agree with Fastsky,
Maybe not now but someday you should build yourself a kit.
It is a whole new feeling when that box of sticks you shaped into an airplane takes to the sky.
There is a sense of pride that you will never get from an ARF.
Old 09-28-2006 | 10:47 PM
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another word to the wise, IF you do decide on an ARF i strongly suggest searching the forums out about reinforcing the firewall and landing gear plate. (ARF's are typically known for being weak in these two areas)
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I see... They look good. I didnt see the Super Sportster in any size bigger than .40 though. I will probably go a bit larger than that but you never know. Thanks for the advice. Any others?
There is a GP Giant Super Sportster
Engine: 1.20 - 2.00 cu in (20 - 32 cc) 2-or 4-stroke OR 2.00 cu in (32cc) gasoline
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXLYC5&P=0
Old 09-29-2006 | 12:29 AM
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I like the World Models Super Sports Sr.

Here is were you can buy it:
http://www.airborne-models.com/html/...p?ProductID=43
Here is a video of me flying mine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6cb02fkbK4
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Check out the World Models Super Stunts 60-size. It's large (80"), but is lightly built.
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Is it true there is a difference btw the ARF and Kit version of the Tiger model?
Towerhobbies seems to list one having a semi-symetrical airfoil, while the other has a fully symetrical one.

Is it better to get a smi-symetrical low wing first or it doesn't make a big difference?
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Is it true there is a difference btw the ARF and Kit version of the Tiger model?
Towerhobbies seems to list one having a semi-symetrical airfoil, while the other has a fully symetrical one.

Is it better to get a smi-symetrical low wing first or it doesn't make a big difference?
You can ask the manufacturer at: [email protected]

As a second plane, either airfoil would be OK.
Old 09-29-2006 | 01:05 PM
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While I haven't flown the 120 size I can tell you the the rest of CG Tiger line are outstanding flying planes. They're great as second planes because they will do just about everything you ask them to do in the air, but will calm to for a landing that looks like the plane is coming in on a wire!!

I did get to see the 120 size at the Goldberg booth in Toledo this spring and it's sure looks good. I've actually been thinking about getting one myself.

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I hade a similair idea and started my own tread but i was a little my specific i think you may want to have a look

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_48...tm.htm#4800418
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I'm thinking of getting this baby for my second plane. This ARF goes together well and flies very well once you have the ballance right.

I have this plane on my IPAC AFPD Flight Simulator. I too don't have the time to build full kits, nor do I have all the stuff to build some of these planes. When I do build planes, I don't like the hassels of building, I'd rather be flying so to speak.

I like to just slap my equipment in... glue here and a little here, bolt on motor and adjust PushRods, ballance the Plane and Prop, a little paint here and there and Go fly. I hope they start making Scale Warbirds this way down the road.


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I was also going to suggest the Tiger 120. If it flies half as good as the Tiger 2, you'd be thrilled with it. I went from an Avistar to the T2 and haven't looked back. I'm now flying it with the factory high rates as my low setting and another 50% for my high rates and having a ball with it.
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Is the Tiger 60 more difficult to fly than the Tiger 2?
I am seriously planning my move to a second airplane now...
Old 10-01-2006 | 11:00 AM
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Nice video of the Super Sports SR. however the price is $300.00 vs. $200.00 for a Tiger 60!!![X(]
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If pure speed isn't a must the Morris Hobby Jerrys Big Boy is a real blast to fly $199 arf well bulit and will handle lots of engine choices from mild to wild
It a high wing stick but very fun and will do lots of cool spins and tumbles and lands like a feather
just something to look at

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